AMD A6-5200 user review

[Enigmoid]

Take a closer look, the I5-4200U is getting its ass kicked in games by the Aspire R7-571-6858, with a I5-3337U! There is just NO way that a HD4000 ULV to be better than a HD4400 ULV, something odd is going on there.

It seems to have severe throttling problems.

http://www.notebookcheck.net/Review-Sony-Vaio-Pro-13-SVP-1321C5ER-Ultrabook.98624.0.html

 

[monstercameron]

It seems to have severe throttling problems.

http://www.notebookcheck.net/Review-Sony-Vaio-Pro-13-SVP-1321C5ER-Ultrabook.98624.0.html

throttling? it is intentionally setup up that way by sony in order to get those power draw/battery life numbers.

 

[Shivansps]

Im fully expecting it from them, last time i tested a Sony Vaio with a I3-3227U bios were not allowing the IGP to turbo at all.

Again ill like to see a Kabini benchmark compared to a 2955U, thats the real deal. We all know that I3/I5/i7 ULV both Ivy and Haswell are better, also more expensive and probaby with higher power draw, even on Haswell.

 

[Enigmoid]

throttling? it is intentionally setup up that way by sony in order to get those power draw/battery life numbers.

So its intentionally set up to throttle.

 

[PPB]

Yep, in real life cases you really cant have both. It's a compromise of speed via turbo and gimp battery life, or really good battery life at the expense of non-turbo iGP most of the time.

 

[Shivansps]

Turbo works on a bios determined TDP room, the TDP number is calculated, is not primary based on temperature either. Throttle is when the CPU is on a critical temperature +85°C, its not the same as Turbo not kicking in or not able to mantain turbo clocks.

A OEM just need to play with TDP setting to get the results they want, on a game the calculated TDP number will depend on a lot of things, with temperature indirectely affecting it, Intel strategy is based on "cpu at 60%(invented number) load gives enoght room for IGP to turbo to max clock" and/or a OEM allow for highter TDP room than 15W(what does not happen, its actually the contrary most of the time), so not all games will give you the same result (as you can see in anadtech test). Only a few, no ULV cpus allows to maintain max turbo on cpu and igp, but in gaming, most of the time, that is not needed either.

 

[monstercameron]

Im fully expecting it from them, last time i tested a Sony Vaio with a I3-3227U bios were not allowing the IGP to turbo at all.

Again ill like to see a Kabini benchmark compared to a 2955U, thats the real deal. We all know that I3/I5/i7 ULV both Ivy and Haswell are better, also more expensive and probaby with higher power draw, even on Haswell.

the a6-5200 will lose single threaded, but multi and graphics will go amd. power is a toss up but I think intel will be better on light/medium load and amd will have a slight edge under max load [based on current trends].

but I agree with your sentument, alot of the competition will be kabini/temash vs celeron/pentium rather than core series...

 

[Shivansps]

So far, the Kabini A4-5000 losses to the HD4000 on a Ivy Bridge ULV cpu by a fair margin, on every test i see, the HD4400 results on this Sony Vaio are strange, but you have to agree that should not be happening, and yet still the Kabini is a bit behind. I dont really see the A6-5200 coming up any better as its primary memory limited.

The I3 and I5 ULV are just better in GPU performance, there is no way to argue that because all benchmarks so far gives that impresion, but on CPU the Kabini is quite close by. Depending on price if cheaper than a I3 it could have a market there, but i have no idea about the kabini price.

Now, Intel is selling the Haswell Celerons at a really cheap price, and GT1 should come with worse IGP performance, thats the real Kabini competition to me. Temash is more paired with BT, and on that, we need to see more benchmarks before taking any conclusion on IGP side, as Temash CPU bottleneck its igp.



BTW, poor HD4400 performance on Sony Vaio Pro 13 could also related to single channel memory, even a HD2000 is bottlenecked by single channel memory, Intel IGP need the dual channel to give good numbers, That could be a critical point in Kabini/Temash favor while compiting with Celerons/Pentium and BT.

 

[AtenRa]

BTW, poor HD4400 performance on Sony Vaio Pro 13 could also related to single channel memory, even a HD2000 is bottlenecked by single channel memory, Intel IGP need the dual channel to give good numbers, That could be a critical point in Kabini/Temash favor while compiting with Celerons/Pentium and BT.

Sony Vaio Pro 13 has 2x 2GB memory sticks according to anandtech.

 

[Shivansps]

I dont why anadtech did not investigated the issue more deeply them, Intel XTU can read bios TDP1 and TDP2 settings. I think its time to start giving those OEM custom numbers, as it directely affects Turbo Boost...

 

[TeknoBug]

If your Acer is anything like the G505 I bought, it's probably the incredibly slow 5400RPM laptop hard drive that is causing the seemingly sluggish performance.

Yikes, incredibly slow it is, just measured sustained transfers, ~15-22MB/sec. My other laptop does ~40-45MB/sec on an older but smaller drive. This is pretty bad especially when windows page file is being used.

Guess SSD is the answer.

 

[rainy]

Yikes, incredibly slow it is, just measured sustained transfers, ~15-22MB/sec.

It's hard to believe it could be so slow - I've tested recently old Toshiba laptop with mobile Pentium 4 and transfer of its HDD is better!

Btw, maybe UDMA mode doesn't work properly?

 

[Shivansps]

Yeah my HP DM1z does about 60 with a WD Blue 5200rpm, the cpu has no much to do with hard disk speed, its hard to belive that UDMA mode is not working, maybe its just a bad hard disk.

 

[Chiropteran]

Yikes, incredibly slow it is, just measured sustained transfers, ~15-22MB/sec. My other laptop does ~40-45MB/sec on an older but smaller drive. This is pretty bad especially when windows page file is being used.

Guess SSD is the answer.

You made me curious, so I ran hd tune. With my 160GB intel SSD, I'm seeing 80MB min 160MB avg transfers. It's not terrible, but the minimum transfer rates are really lower than a modern SSD should be- even my older E-450 AMD Netbook gets 156MB/sec min.

Might be some minor issues with the default windows sata driver and this chipset. I'm running windows 8.1

 

[TeknoBug]

Time to do some investigating with Acer then I guess. Wonder if I should play with switching AHCI and IDE modes.

 

[callmesissi]

i have the HP Pavilion 14-n007la .

been using my laptop with dual monitor

aditional monitor is set at full hd, laptop screen at default 1366x768

running World of Warcraft at 1600 resolution low quality on aditional monitor, while watching movies and video on main screen, also with my email client, browser and downloading stuff. i get around 25 fps in wow. machine never gets hot neither loud. quite good apu! i recommended it anyone with a low budget.

my laptop specs are: a6 5200k 8gb ram ddr1600 750gb hd <-- the machine came with it.

 

[nicknico2]

Hey guys, I going to buy this laptop: HP 14-AF117LA, I only have $ for a Celeron or AMD E1, but I have found a offer for that price.

AMD A6 5200 with Radeon HD 8400 - 4Gb RAM DDR3 - 500Gb.



I want to know whats the best RAM I can put on it, if someone here knows the official information. Thanks.

 

[Justinbaileyman]

It takes up to DDR3 1600 @ 1.35v so pretty much any laptop memory will do. I personally have this laptop and have 2 x 8GB G.Skill DDR3 1600 1.35v 8-8-8-24 all black PCB W/O heat spreader and it make this laptop zoom.