AMD Announces Project Quantum. Enthusiast PC Form Factor

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ShintaiDK

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The big brick is a setback. But I can also understand it. The Q itself would have to be radically different to house it.
 

Tsavo

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Massively embarrassing for a CPU company to be using its competitors products in its own.

What's next? AMD Radeon Now With Nvidia Technology?

These people are really out to sea.
 

mrmt

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Massively embarrassing for a CPU company to be using its competitors products in its own.

That ship sailed long ago. The bulk of their AMD SeaMicro division sales was from Xeon units, and we were talking of an entire business unit at the company.
 

Wreckem

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Not sure I like the external PSU. Seems like a SFF like those from Velocity Micro would take up less room than two separate boxes like this.

Right now there is not a true SFF system capable of driving a dual fiji card. Not until that 700watt SFX-L psu from silverstone comes out and even then that will leave very little overhead.

And while it looks like it takes up a lot of space, the Quantum with its external atx PSU is smaller than it looks in pictures. It is actually incredibly tiny for what is packed in it.
 
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Ramses

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Massively embarrassing for a CPU company to be using its competitors products in its own.

What's next? AMD Radeon Now With Nvidia Technology?

These people are really out to sea.

It is, but unless one knew just how integrated ATI became with AMD, we don't know how embarrassing. It's heartening that someone there is smart enough to do what needed to be done, no? In years past parts of GM for example, Buick and Cadillac, had not a lot to do with each other despite being in the same corporate family. It's almost assuredly not just one big happy family other than at the very top.
 

DrMrLordX

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Right now there is not a true SFF system capable of driving a dual fiji card. Not until that 700watt SFX-L psu from silverstone comes out and even then that will leave very little overhead.

And while it looks like it takes up a lot of space, the Quantum with its external atx PSU is smaller than it looks in pictures. It is actually incredibly tiny for what is packed in it.

It looks only a little larger than a gaming console. And those have external power bricks, too, more often than not.
 

Genx87

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The external brick hurts this concept. I actually like the look of the case. Pretty sad AMD has to use Intel processors in their concept. Oh well.
 

guskline

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AMD is well known to use Intel CPU's for benchmark purposes when comparing to nVidia GPU's. They don't want to gimp their own GPU results by using their own CPU's.

Without a price tag and the inability to upgrade the thing I'm not interested.


Absolutely true. When the specs for the 7950/7970s were released by AMD, all you had to do was look at the CPU and it was an Intel I7 not Bulldozer as the test machine.
 

moonbogg

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If you can't upgrade it, then its a fail. PCs do not have the longevity of consoles, yet this thing is trying to be a special PC styled console thing. The product's performance will degrade over time and become useless because it runs PC games. A console doesn't have that problem because consoles start sucking and end sucking, so there is no contrast to be concerned with.
 

Burpo

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Now that's some flawed logic there.. My PC came out during PS2 and has survived PS3 & PS4 and STILL games better than any of those.

"The product's performance will degrade over time and become useless because it runs PC games"

Useless? Really? Like you couldn't use it for anything else? lololol SMH.. 17 GFLOPS will outlast a few consoles.
 
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Wreckem

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The external brick hurts this concept. I actually like the look of the case. Pretty sad AMD has to use Intel processors in their concept. Oh well.

Physics.

That case is pretty tiny. There is very little room for an internal PSU. Even if they could find space in that case, there isn't a PSU that small that would be powerful enough to run a 500watt card and an 88watt processor.

The smallest PSU that might be able to power that config is the upcoming 700watt SFX-L from Silverstone and it would never be able to fit into a case like that.
 

moonbogg

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Now that's some flawed logic there.. My PC came out during PS2 and has survived PS3 & PS4 and STILL games better than any of those.

"The product's performance will degrade over time and become useless because it runs PC games"

Useless? Really? Like you couldn't use it for anything else? lololol SMH.. 17 GFLOPS will outlast a few consoles.

My one word answer: Kepler

These things happen quickly for PCs because games keep getting more demanding. Consoles don't work like that. Its simple really. In 4 years no GPU out today will be worth a damn.
 
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AtenRa

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Absolutely true. When the specs for the 7950/7970s were released by AMD, all you had to do was look at the CPU and it was an Intel I7 not Bulldozer as the test machine.

They used the FX for the Multi-GPU setup.

 

JDG1980

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Given the now-confirmed lack of HDMI 2.0 support on Fury cards, I think we can call Project Quantum DOA.

What the heck was AMD thinking, developing a small form factor gaming system clearly intended to be hooked up to a TV for 4K gaming, and then not including the output type that 99% of 4K TVs require to get full resolution/color/framerate?
 

cbn

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Given the now-confirmed lack of HDMI 2.0 support on Fury cards, I think we can call Project Quantum DOA.

What the heck was AMD thinking, developing a small form factor gaming system clearly intended to be hooked up to a TV for 4K gaming, and then not including the output type that 99% of 4K TVs require to get full resolution/color/framerate?

The video card can be swapped though.
 

DeathReborn

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If you can't upgrade it, then its a fail. PCs do not have the longevity of consoles, yet this thing is trying to be a special PC styled console thing. The product's performance will degrade over time and become useless because it runs PC games. A console doesn't have that problem because consoles start sucking and end sucking, so there is no contrast to be concerned with.

I suppose it could be turned into a high end Steam Box, despite the lack of HDMI 2.0 & upgrade-ability.
 

freeskier93

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The external power supply really frustrates me. It's been 2 years since Apple released the redesigned Mac Pro, which is roughly the same size as this yet has an integrated power supply that can power dual D700 GPUs and a 12 core Xeon. Yet here we are in 2015 and we have this thing with a huge external power brick.
 

dark zero

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Anyways, expecting a massive disaster from this AMD idea since Intel and NVIDIA could launch together their own idea.
 

Ketchup

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It's funny how this computer gets less and less impressive as I read the thread, lol.

Seariously, it's a run-of-the-mill ITX board an Intel chip running two AMD cards (well, at least they put something AMD in there) on a standard power supply.

The cool part is the cooling for the small case, but some of that gets lost with the huge power supply. At least when/if AMD splits up, it should be easier to decide who gets this product.

Considering the likely ventilation requirements of 2 AMD cards in crossfire, I can't help but wonder how well this was thought through (water notwithstanding).
 

thilanliyan

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The external power supply really frustrates me. It's been 2 years since Apple released the redesigned Mac Pro, which is roughly the same size as this yet has an integrated power supply that can power dual D700 GPUs and a 12 core Xeon. Yet here we are in 2015 and we have this thing with a huge external power brick.

True the MacPro is very well packaged but I think that's because it is fully custom, instead of mostly off the shelf components. This could probably be made smaller if it was fully custom, but then price goes up of course.
 

exar333

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Good product as long as no BD inside. Who wants to give-up anywhere from 0-30% on game performance when they are already shelling-out $$$ for 2 top-tier GPUs? This is a niche product, and will be a 'niche' niche without Intel inside.
 

dark zero

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It's funny how this computer gets less and less impressive as I read the thread, lol.

Seariously, it's a run-of-the-mill ITX board an Intel chip running two AMD cards (well, at least they put something AMD in there) on a standard power supply.

The cool part is the cooling for the small case, but some of that gets lost with the huge power supply. At least when/if AMD splits up, it should be easier to decide who gets this product.

Considering the likely ventilation requirements of 2 AMD cards in crossfire, I can't help but wonder how well this was thought through (water notwithstanding).

Sadly a Steam Machine looks way more appealing that.... That thing.
 
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