AMD announces two new FX processors

Rvenger

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Again, whats the power consumption like at those clock speeds? Same as an overclocked FX4100 and 6100 at those speeds?
 

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These are finally rolling out, eh?

Well, you get four threads at 4.2 ghz for your 125W versus 8 @ 3.6 with the 8150, in less threaded games/usage you could argue that the clockspeed is more useful.

But really, not that interesting. Had they been 95W parts (and I think there are a couple new ones with more modest clock bumps coming as well) they would have garnered a bit more interest. What I think is surprising is that we have gone this long with such a limited number of SKU's. They must have horrible yields, horrible sales, or both IMHO.
 

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I'm in the process of upgrading my Clawhammer (Yep, you read that right) to a Phenom II 970 with a Gigabyte 970A AM3+ MB, so in a year or so, assuming the Piledriver is really good, I'll need only upgrade the CPU.
 

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But really, not that interesting. Had they been 95W parts (and I think there are a couple new ones with more modest clock bumps coming as well) they would have garnered a bit more interest. What I think is surprising is that we have gone this long with such a limited number of SKU's. They must have horrible yields, horrible sales, or both IMHO.

They seemed to have decreased the prices slightly for the other BD models with the exception of the 8150 as well, so I'd imagine you're right. Hopefully they did this just to satiate the thirst of OEMs for new products. With no word of a B3 stepping outside of this AT article by Kristian, I'm hoping they decided to abandon Bulldozer and put their efforts towards Trinity and Piledriver. I doubt they're that cheap to produce, especially with lower margins on those 2 and 3 module parts.
 

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They seemed to have decreased the prices slightly for the other BD models with the exception of the 8150 as well, so I'd imagine you're right. Hopefully they did this just to satiate the thirst of OEMs for new products. With no word of a B3 stepping outside of this AT article by Kristian, I'm hoping they decided to abandon Bulldozer and put their efforts towards Trinity and Piledriver. I doubt they're that cheap to produce, especially with lower margins on those 2 and 3 module parts.

Right. Clearly, why would we (the informed/enthusiast) choose these parts if they have any premium attached to them at all. They all have unlocked multipliers anyway, and AMD has been quietly saying that they are good to go for more than 4Ghz with the stock cooler, why would we pay more for them when we can basically make one of them ourselves?

Like you said, it's probably just for OEMs who want to be able to through that incremental $30-$50 CPU upgrade in there to get people who want a "better than budget" PC build or something. I know that certain people have a hard time buying anything, whether it is a car or a PC without making it a little sweeter... it's like they are immune to the cost/benefit of those options
 
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Unless these are more power-efficient, I don't see the point. The existing 4100 and 6100 are solid overclockers, and these appear to just be clock-speed bump SKUs.

Will wait for a formal review for a final verdict, but doesn't appear to exciting at first glance. Kind of like the 2700K for Intel; same power consumption, same OC ceiling, same process, blah blah blah.
 

exar333

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Right. Clearly, why would we (the informed/enthusiast) choose these parts if they have any premium attached to them at all. They all have unlocked multipliers anyway, and AMD has been quietly saying that they are good to go for more than 4Ghz with the stock cooler, why would we pay more for them when we can basically make one of them ourselves?

Like you said, it's probably just for OEMs who want to be able to through that incremental $30-$50 CPU upgrade in there to get people who want a "better than budget" PC build or something. I know that certain people have a hard time buying anything, whether it is a car or a PC without making it a little sweeter... it's like they are immune to the cost/benefit of those options

Agree 100% with this.
 

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Both of the new parts are clocked ~15% faster than the FX-4100 and FX-6100 and may offer a slightly faster integrated memory controller as well; rumors indicate that the IMC is clocked at 2.2GHz, up from 2GHz. The new chips are reportedly based on the B3 stepping that's been in the works for months; current Bulldozer parts are all based on the B2 stepping
http://hothardware.com/cs/forums/t/60359.aspx

interesting... may be better than the ph2, now

but still suck D:
 

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There was an FX-8170 (3.9GHz base, 4.5GHz max turbo) that was supposed to be released in the first quarter as well. Maybe AMD still hasn't been able to hit those clocks and stay within the 125W TDP envelope even with the new stepping, though.
 

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These are finally rolling out, eh?

Well, you get four threads at 4.2 ghz for your 125W versus 8 @ 3.6 with the 8150, in less threaded games/usage you could argue that the clockspeed is more useful.

But really, not that interesting. Had they been 95W parts (and I think there are a couple new ones with more modest clock bumps coming as well) they would have garnered a bit more interest. What I think is surprising is that we have gone this long with such a limited number of SKU's. They must have horrible yields, horrible sales, or both IMHO.

Rumours say that the Piledriver resonant clocked FX2 quadcore 4200 will run at 4.7ghz, base clock, so i'd say by Q3, yields and clocks at Glofo will be finally, what they should have been at BDs launch.
 
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People should remember that not everyone overclocks their CPUs. People that dont OC will buy those new CPUs, especially OEMs that need new and faster processors.
 

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is that slide real? are they actually using comments from newegg reviews? so will they be seeking out random comments from forums and maybe even youtube now?

I doubt this slide is real. Why would they include half of a review?
 

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What I don't understand is why they're aiming for higher core clocks when they could go for a reduction in cache latency. If anything, they should aim for lower latency in the L2 and L3 cache and if possible raise the L3 cache's clock speed while reducing the core clock speed. What good is raising the core clock speed going to do when the cache sucks?
 

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What I don't understand is why they're aiming for higher core clocks when they could go for a reduction in cache latency. If anything, they should aim for lower latency in the L2 and L3 cache and if possible raise the L3 cache's clock speed while reducing the core clock speed. What good is raising the core clock speed going to do when the cache sucks?

they increased both, L3 and clocks
 
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