AMD Bristol/Stoney Ridge Thread

[DrMrLordX]

Yeah, some of the benches are a bit wonky for now. User testing will probably sort out whatever it is that the tech sites screw up or ignore. Desktop BR probably won't produce much interest in the enthusiast circles, but for those of us who like Kaveri, it may be a decent stopgap until Raven Ridge. Bonus of B350 motherboards support Raven Ridge properly down the line.

 

[deasd]

Looks like the test of A12-9800 made by Korean has some problem, they used just single channel memory(or bugged?) for testing:
https://twitter.com/DylRicho/status/778350370263273472

Look at the GPUZ screenshot:
http://www.bodnara.co.kr/bbs/article.html?num=134612&mn=4

 

[Shehriazad]

Looks like the test of A12-9800 made by Korean has some problem, they used just single channel memory(or bugged?) for testing:
https://twitter.com/DylRicho/status/778350370263273472

Look at the GPUZ screenshot:
http://www.bodnara.co.kr/bbs/article.html?num=134612&mn=4

Yeh, that's what I was saying.....but even still it seems Bristol easily pulls ahead of Kaveri...but we'll have to wait and see.

Personally I'll not touch it until at least a 860K/870K equivalent is released...but after that I'll check it out myself.

 

[deasd]

Yeh, that's what I was saying.....but even still it seems Bristol easily pulls ahead of Kaveri...but we'll have to wait and see.

Personally I'll not touch it until at least a 860K/870K equivalent is released...but after that I'll check it out myself.

It seems impossible that Bristro Ridge with single channel memory could outperform Kaveri, maybe it is a recognition error of GPUZ, but I would wait for more benchmark to see what's going on.
X4 950 is on the way:
http://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/Bulldozer/AMD-Athlon X4 950.html

 

[hojnikb]

Any chance that stoney ridge will come in cheap mini PCs ?

 

[hojnikb]

It seems impossible that Bristro Ridge with single channel memory could outperform Kaveri, maybe it is a recognition error of GPUZ, but I would wait for more benchmark to see what's going on.
X4 950 is on the way:
http://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/Bulldozer/AMD-Athlon X4 950.html

What about motherboards ?

 

[jpiniero]

Has this review been mentioned?

http://www.notebookcheck.net/Bristo...0-9600P-Against-the-Competition.168477.0.html

God I love AMD OEMs. It throttles like mad, it's even slower than Kaby-U in most games because of the throttling. It has a discrete GPU for no reason.

 

[AtenRa]

Has this been posted before ??

AMD AM4-based PC desktop system spotted in Costco

http://hexus.net/tech/news/systems/97096-amd-am4-based-pc-desktop-system-spotted-costco/

• A12-9800 APU with AMD Radeon R7 graphics
• 16GB DDR4 RAM
• 1TB 7200rpm HDD
• SuperMulti DVD writer and card reader
• 802.11ac Wi-Fi
• 2x USB 3.0 and 2x USB 3.0 ports around the back
• Windows 10 installed

Priced at $599

 

[LTC8K6]

Has this been posted before ??

AMD AM4-based PC desktop system spotted in Costco

http://hexus.net/tech/news/systems/97096-amd-am4-based-pc-desktop-system-spotted-costco/

• A12-9800 APU with AMD Radeon R7 graphics
• 16GB DDR4 RAM
• 1TB 7200rpm HDD
• SuperMulti DVD writer and card reader
• 802.11ac Wi-Fi
• 2x USB 3.0 and 2x USB 3.0 ports around the back
• Windows 10 installed

Priced at $599

Ports out back seem to be USB 2.0, though.

 

[The Stilt]

Looks like the test of A12-9800 made by Korean has some problem, they used just single channel memory(or bugged?) for testing:
https://twitter.com/DylRicho/status/778350370263273472

Look at the GPUZ screenshot:
http://www.bodnara.co.kr/bbs/article.html?num=134612&mn=4

Of course the A12-9800 was running dual channel. GPU-Z just doesn't support Carrizo properly (even the clocks are reported wrong). In the picture showing the test system, you can see to modules being installed too.

 

[The Stilt]

In the Bodnara review A12-9800 scored 1880 and 6863 points in 3DMark Fire Strike & Skydiver. Considering the GPU frequency is 38.5% higher than on FX-8800P, I don't find the 10 - 13.6% performance improvement to be too spectacular. The A12-9800 can support DDR-2400 too, which will improve the scaling slightly (over the tested 2133), but still it is anything but sufficient. Raven better be able to hit > 3200MHz without any significant efforts.

Carrizo FX-8800P 35W results:

http://www.3dmark.com/fs/7531370

http://www.3dmark.com/sd/3823405

 

[cbn]

Has this review been mentioned?

http://www.notebookcheck.net/Bristo...0-9600P-Against-the-Competition.168477.0.html

God I love AMD OEMs. It throttles like mad, it's even slower than Kaby-U in most games because of the throttling. It has a discrete GPU for no reason.

We found the dedicated Radeon R7 M440 GPU of our test laptop relatively disappointing. It rarely performed faster than the integrated Radeon R5 and, when it did, the IGP was suffering performance drops due to its limiting TDP. Instead, HP should have installed the higher-performance A10-9630P (35-watt). This would have boosted CPU and GPU performance. This statement is supported by the fact that the CrossFire setup did not produce higher frame rates in none of the games we tested.

One thing I hope AMD will do (in the future) is label the 35W better so that the significant difference in performance between 35W and 15W (while CPU and iGPU are both active) is apparent in the advertised specs. Maybe they could do this by having a "gaming clocks" spec? (ie, CPU and iGPU clocks while both processors are active)

Notice below (with the current situation) only the CPU clocks are advertised (and they are not that much different between 15W and 35W):

 

[dark zero]

Not bad... Phenom II performance and Haswell energy consumption. Is a Nice good bye for Bulldozer

 

[KTE]

In the Bodnara review A12-9800 scored 1880 and 6863 points in 3DMark Fire Strike & Skydiver. Considering the GPU frequency is 38.5% higher than on FX-8800P, I don't find the 10 - 13.6% performance improvement to be too spectacular. The A12-9800 can support DDR-2400 too, which will improve the scaling slightly (over the tested 2133), but still it is anything but sufficient. Raven better be able to hit > 3200MHz without any significant efforts.

Carrizo FX-8800P 35W results:

http://www.3dmark.com/fs/7531370

http://www.3dmark.com/sd/3823405

These results aren't particularly impressive...

i7-3667U scores 1.33/3.00 all stock in CB11.5 64b. A 4.5yr old ULV CPU

Bobcat at 2.5GHz scores 0.92 2T.

This is just reminding me of the K10 days...

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[lolfail9001]

Of course the A12-9800 was running dual channel. GPU-Z just doesn't support Carrizo properly (even the clocks are reported wrong). In the picture showing the test system, you can see to modules being installed too.

I see 2 modules installed in same color slots. It may actually be a single channel mode, though that would be funny.

 

[burninatortech4]

I don't understand why AMD OEM's insist on pairing mid-tier GCN 1.1 or 1.2 APU's with crap GCN 1.0 mobile dGPU's. My A10-7300 Thinkpad has a useless R5-m230 that I disabled in BIOS. The combination of the two actually perform worse than the APU on its own in all the games I tested. Are 'Enduro' drivers not up to snuff or is the hardware implementation poor?

The APU alone thermal throttles down to ~1.0ghz every time I stress the processor. Not my best purchase.

Are there any laptops with an FX-9830p APU, decent DDR4-2133, an SSD, and an acceptable thermal solution (all in a body that doesn't look like a spaceship)?

 

[Abwx]

Nice laptop from Acer, and with a 2 years warranty :

CPU: AMD A12-9700P, 4x 2.50GHz • RAM: 8GB DDR4 (2x 4GB) • Festplatte: 1TB HDD + 128GB SSD • Optisches Laufwerk: DVD+/-RW DL • Grafik: AMD Radeon R7 (IGP), VGA, HDMI • Display: 15.6", 1920x1080, non-glare • Anschlüsse: 1x USB 3.1 (Typ-C), 2x USB 3.0, 1x USB 2.0, Gb LAN • Wireless: WLAN 802.11a/b/g/n/ac, Bluetooth 4.0 • Cardreader: 5in1 • Webcam: 1.3 Megapixel • Betriebssystem: Windows 10 Home 64bit • Akku: Li-Ionen, 4 Zellen, 2800mAh, 41.8Wh, 6h Laufzeit • Gewicht: 2.40kg • Besonderheiten: Nummernblock • Herstellergarantie: zwei Jahre

https://geizhals.de/acer-aspire-e5-553-11hv-nx-geseg-001-a1504362.html?hloc=at&hloc=de

HP s Probook comparatively :

CPU: AMD A10-9600P, 4x 2.40GHz • RAM: 8GB DDR4 (1x 8GB) • Festplatte: 128GB SSD (SATA, M.2 2280) • Optisches Laufwerk: DVD+/-RW DL • Grafik: AMD Radeon R5 (IGP), VGA, HDMI • Display: 15.6", 1920x1080, non-glare, SVA • Anschlüsse: 2x USB 3.0 (1x Typ-C), 2x USB 2.0, Gb LAN • Wireless: WLAN 802.11b/g/n, Bluetooth 4.0 • Cardreader: SD/SDHC/SDXC/MMC • Webcam: 1.0 Megapixel • Betriebssystem: Windows 10 Pro 64bit • Akku: Li-Ionen, 3 Zellen, 48Wh, 10h Laufzeit • Gewicht: 2.08kg • Besonderheiten: Nummernblock, Fingerprint-Reader, 1x M.2/M-Key (SATA, 2280, 1x belegt) • Herstellergarantie: ein Jahr

https://geizhals.de/hp-probook-455-g4-y8b43ea-abd-a1509335.html?hloc=at&hloc=de

 

[NostaSeronx]

I don't understand why AMD OEM's insist on pairing mid-tier GCN 1.1 or 1.2 APU's with crap GCN 1.0 mobile dGPU's.

Iceland/Topaz is 1.2 with no UVD or VCE. Its sole purpose is for dual graphics.

 

[hojnikb]

I don't understand why AMD OEM's insist on pairing mid-tier GCN 1.1 or 1.2 APU's with crap GCN 1.0 mobile dGPU's. My A10-7300 Thinkpad has a useless R5-m230 that I disabled in BIOS. The combination of the two actually perform worse than the APU on its own in all the games I tested. Are 'Enduro' drivers not up to snuff or is the hardware implementation poor?

The APU alone thermal throttles down to ~1.0ghz every time I stress the processor. Not my best purchase.

Are there any laptops with an FX-9830p APU, decent DDR4-2133, an SSD, and an acceptable thermal solution (all in a body that doesn't look like a spaceship)?

Because they need to get rid of the old gpu stock + dual graphics sounds better on paper.

 

[KTE]

Nice laptop from Acer, and with a 2 years warranty :



https://geizhals.de/acer-aspire-e5-553-11hv-nx-geseg-001-a1504362.html?hloc=at&hloc=de

HP s Probook comparatively :



https://geizhals.de/hp-probook-455-g4-y8b43ea-abd-a1509335.html?hloc=at&hloc=de

First one is badly hampered by the battery/battery life. Sadly, that's typical of AMD OEM systems.

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[Arachnotronic]

Because they need to get rid of the old gpu stock + dual graphics sounds better on paper.

That is how they are puffing up their dGPU share, btw.

 

[AtenRa]

That is how they are puffing up their dGPU share, btw.

yea, I have never seen Laptops with entry level NVIDIA dGPUs like the 710/720 that are slower than even latest Intel iGPUs.

Give me a brake, this is OEMs work since they believe people actually want a dGPU in their laptops even if it is slower than the iGPU.

 

[Abwx]

That is how they are puffing up their dGPU share, btw.

You must be new to the tech sector, historicaly CPU + dGPU sell better and is more attractive anyway than CPU + IGP, moreover if the price difference is negligible...

 

[lolfail9001]

yea, I have never seen Laptops with entry level NVIDIA dGPUs like the 710/720 that are slower than even latest Intel iGPUs.

Give me a brake, this is OEMs work since they believe people actually want a dGPU in their laptops even if it is slower than the iGPU.

To be honest, i have seen way more M330 or something BS like that in laptops than GT920/GT930. It's getting quite annoying to filter those out in my hunt. There's plenty of those with GT940MX, but it's at least as fast as Iris 540, unlike AMD's cGPUs.

 

[dark zero]

First one is badly hampered by the battery/battery life. Sadly, that's typical of AMD OEM systems.

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AMD only? Intel U suffers the same fate... OEMs are totally retarded now by pairing with crack configs in order to make the laptop cheaper... Is a total stupid move... Even worse is the fact that they put dGPUs comparable to the iGPUs of the laptops... (Yeah i5 U and GT 920M... I see you!)