I'll ask around, last time I did the word was that glofo's beol dielectric had serious cracking and tddb issues after packaging. To my knowledge, based on people who work in that area, this issue has yet to be resolved but I freely admit I have not broached the subject with the right people for a couple months now.
Makes you wonder if AMD will ever catch up with Intel of process technology. Seems like they been behind by about a year for a while now (65nm, 45nm and now 32nm).
Really, outside the couple of years during the Athlon 64 period, AMD's pretty much always been a step behind Intel in process. (AMD produces world's fastest 386 cpu....while Intel is already well into 486 production. AMD produces the world's fastest 486, but again is upstaged by the Pentium processor that's in full production. And on and on......)
Makes you wonder if AMD will ever catch up with Intel of process technology. Seems like they been behind by about a year for a while now (65nm, 45nm and now 32nm).
Why is it that nobody picked up "Bulldozer remains on track" from the call?
Is AMD in such bad shape that meeting a schedule is newsworthy?
Considering how important and how much resources they are pumping into bulldozer yes it's newsworthy.
Amd will be fine...The meeting also said bulldozer was on track. Dirk said that the delays weren't anything bad and that they wer just normal learning delays. It also said Ontario will be shipping before the end of the year and available for purchase quarter 1 next year. Which is good, because that's probably the chip that stands to really make AMD the most money, imho. They also look like they had all around a great quarter. So basically Llano gets pushed back 2-3 months. Oh no! (Good for Intel though, and in a way it's good for those of us who live in Oregon, whistles innocently, going to push SB demand up I bet!)
I fail to see the doom and gloom, I do find it funny how everyone is like "zomg intel r0x0rs lol amd is not goin to be able to compete they aren't big enough lololol" (basically...and yes, I like Intel as well, and have Intel box, so does my gf)...
I remember people saying that back in the friggin K6 days... Yeah. AMD is still around. They've made some great products and some mediocre ones. Just like Intel. Goes back and forth. I predict that that will continue.
Right now we're at a bit of a lull, where AMD isn't competitive on the high end. Sort of like Intel wasn't back in the K8 / P4 days (and I'd argue, before that for a while as well). Intel came back and made some of the most kickass chips we've ever seen.
I remember reading Gary Key's comment that bulldozer was going to be HUGELY important for AMD. They seem to have recovered slightly from the core 2/nehalem obliteration, but if bulldozer ends up going against ivy bridge...
Something tells me that I should buy intel stock.
I think you are vastly missing the point behind bulldozer. Intel is going to have to play catchup.
maybe they will if bulldozer goes up against sb, but what if it drags out into 1h 2012? 2013? intel is not slowing down for anybody, amd will at best have a short term advantage but, honestly, I don't see that happening. they can have the best design in the world but poor execution could easily delay it until it's only the 2nd best cpu design on the market...
edit: remember, bulldozer was originally supposed to go up against nehalem. maybe it will beat nehalem, and maybe it will even be so good that it beats sb as well, but what will happen if it takes 50% more power to achieve its victory? ask nvidia how well that worked with gf100.
It sounds like AMD made Intel hedge a bet. 32nm is fiarly mature now and nehlam while a fast executer doesn't work the same way as bulldozer.bulldozer is a parrellel processor. In fact if you look at the block diagrams it has a instruction core and a math co proccessor "GPU " built into each module.
This was sheerly briliant. It is going to eat intel alive.