Does anyone know what the official AMD roadmap is for Exclavator/Carrizo? Has AMD even officially mentioned Carrizo?
GlobalFoundries will have 7nm ready in 2017.K12 is coming out in 2016, Zen is coming out 2016+.
Retailers still have IB and Richland laptops on sale, if that says anything (and I'm not really sure it does)Thanks for that.
So, officially AMD says Carrizo launches at start of 2015, not 2014.
Normally, it's about a year between APU launches, but Carrizo is only 6 months after Kaveri mobile, which launched this summer.
I wonder if OEMs are going to need more time to shift their Kaveri stock before they start up with Carrizo.
Thanks for that.
So, officially AMD says Carrizo launches at start of 2015, not 2014.
Normally, it's about a year between APU launches, but Carrizo is only 6 months after Kaveri mobile, which launched this summer.
I wonder if OEMs are going to need more time to shift their Kaveri stock before they start up with Carrizo.
It's still almost impossible to find a decent Kaveri notebook with a 1080p screen. I can't imagine Carrizo being available before 2015.
Since, 2012 and maybe 2013. There has been no mention in AMD's HP core roadmap of Excavator. While, there has been several roadmaps showing Excavator in products.Does anyone know what the official AMD roadmap is for Exclavator/Carrizo? Has AMD even officially mentioned Carrizo?
You must be either blind or live in America then...It's still almost impossible to find a decent Kaveri notebook with a 1080p screen. I can't imagine Carrizo being available before 2015.
You must be either blind or live in America then...
Lenovo, Acer, HP and MSI all offer 1080P Kaveri notebooks. In the 400 to 800 euro price range. That is in Germany so Europe actually has a decent offering of Kaveri notebooks.
http://geizhals.de/?cat=nb&xf=1482_AMD~9_1920x1080~29_AMD+FX-7~29_AMD+A8-7~29_AMD+A10+Pro~29_AMD+A10-7#xf_top
It's just Intel bribes the American market far more than it does the European market and I recently spoke with a Chinese friend of mine seems like Intel is also bribing a lot in China.
Sue Intel for anti-competitive practices again because they never paid the price! Made over 100 billion profit for being in an almost monopoly position. Paid only 3 billion in fines. Crime pays for Intel and thus the consumer is forced to pay extra!
The only ones I have seen were the very expensive HP ones. Too bad really because my sis would be in for a small notebook. Guess she will be treated with a 5y10a based 13 inch notebook unless Carrizo brings something to the table bellow 15 inch.lets not go down that route in this thread, also nice finds but have you seen any kaveri subnotebooks less than 13"?
No, everyone rather take a dump in your thread.
No surprise, 28nm is the node for Excavator. A bit surprising are other numbers tho, compare with SR:AMD will disclose Carrizo, an integrated processor with its latest x86 core. The 28 nm chip measures 244.62 mm2 and packs more than 3.1 billion transistors. Its new Excavator core is 23% smaller and uses 40% less power than AMD’s previous x86 core.
Power draw claim is also a bit odd, they state 40% lower power draw but under what conditions is unknown. I very much doubt that Carrizo will clock anywhere near Kaveri and draw so much less power. It's probably the numbers they got when comparing the mobile parts running at very low clocks where Carrizo might get such an advantage over Kaveri.
Power draw claim is also a bit odd, they state 40% lower power draw but under what conditions is unknown.
In STMicro's case in 2012; http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/xpl/login.jsp?tp=&arnumber=6241805Neverless the performance delta was stated at 15W as being 30%, http://cdn.eteknix.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/carrizo-slide.jpg
http://skepticalhumanities.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/coincidences.jpgIn this paper, we present TDDB, HCI and BTI reliability characterization of Nfet and Pfet devices issued from FDSOI and bulk 28nm technologies. 28nm FDSOI devices achieve 32% improved performance, 40% reduced power consumption and improved matching. From device level tests, 28nm FDSOI also demonstrates intrinsic reliability behavior similar to 28 bulk devices, giving confidence in the robustness of this technology.
ISSCC Tips Hot Circuit Designs
No surprise, 28nm is the node for Excavator. A bit surprising are other numbers tho, compare with SR:
AMD Kaveri GF 28nm SHP 2.41B 245 mm2 9.837M
AMD Richland GF 32nm SOI 1.30B 246 mm2 5.285M
AMD Llano GF 32nm SOI 1.178B 228 mm2 5.166M
Looks like the HDL achieved the density increase (28% more transistors with basically same die size). Dunno why AMD cites the lower die area in the paper when Kaveri is right about the same size as Carrizo. Also I doubt they went for SP count increase due to mem. BW woes they have and will have (DDR3 dual ch.). What they spent those additional transistors on is unknown for now.
Power draw claim is also a bit odd, they state 40% lower power draw but under what conditions is unknown. I very much doubt that Carrizo will clock anywhere near Kaveri and draw so much less power. It's probably the numbers they got when comparing the mobile parts running at very low clocks where Carrizo might get such an advantage over Kaveri.
Nope, Steamroller/Kaveri showed up in ISSCC 2014.Also, does this invalidate Carrizo-L in december?
November 18th, 2014 via Matt Skynner, corporate vice president and general manager, products, client and graphics business unit, will present at the UBS Global Technology Conference, or December 9th, 2014 via Mark Papermaster, senior vice president and chief technology officer, will present at the Barclays Global Technology Conference.So then when are we going to get info for Carrizo-L?
Maybe the HBM on Carrizo rumors were true and that Sisoft bench was correct.
Also, does this invalidate Carrizo-L in december?
Yes. It should be included since it creates heat when used.Is the new integrated FCH included in TDP/power consumption measurements?