Along Intel Mobile H tier too T_T...Carrizo is a paper launch product.
If they used the same power as cat cores you ahd a point, but they dont.
Really, I doubt power consumption below 25W makes a difference in the desktop market. Buying a new, more efficient monitor would save more than that.
At 25W you can just buy a 35W big core instead.
Fanless being the key word.
And how much are those 35W TDP big cores ???
They do comeonetwo years later though.
Beema equals 20%-30% increased CPU & GPU clocks with overall lower power usage (25W -> 15W). Specs are not the problem.but what AMD gona do with AM1? im expecting a Beema refresh that is not gona do much.
I, for one (having recently invested in the AM1 platform), would like to see some new APUs for that socket, if they could give me 30% increased clocks, at the same or lower power consumption. With overclocking included, I would like to see 3.0Ghz AM1 quad-cores, at 25W or less (maybe 30W). These rigs would make ideal AM3 quad-core replacements. (For desktop usage, not gaming, because of the lack of PCI-E lanes.)Beema equals 20%-30% increased CPU & GPU clocks with overall lower power usage (25W -> 15W). Specs are not the problem.
Beema equals 20%-30% increased CPU & GPU clocks with overall lower power usage (25W -> 15W). Specs are not the problem.
However, since people are so vocal about AM1 being a dead end due to lack of new products, are there new CPUs on the market right now to replace Bay Trail-D? I share some of the lack of confidence in AM1 future, but what recent development from Intel spurred this doom & gloom for AM1?
AM1 IGP is just memory limited, just go and compare it to a A4-4000 that has the same one, higher clocks will not do much.
I'm done with the first phase of multiplayer testing for Athlon 5350 on Team Fortress 2.
(This phase involved changing resolution with the lowest detail settings being used as a constant.)
Some basic observations:
1. The game appears to spread the load out primarily to three cpu cores. (Activity does exist on core four, but it is extremely light)
2. Some player character classes appear to stress the game more than others. For example, I seem to get the lowest frame rates while playing the Scout.
3. According to FRAPS minimum frame rates have dropped to as low as 16 on multiple logs. I have tested this on resolutions as low as 800 x 600 with lowest settings and it still happens.
4. Determining average frame rate is extremely difficult because once my player dies (and I am waiting to respawn) the frame rate shoots up much higher than what it was in game. With that mentioned, average frame rate appears to be > 30 FPS up to 1920 x 1080 (lowest settings). Some variation in average FPS appears to be dependent on map and number of players.
Overall, I will give the Athlon 5350 a pass (for casual gamers) on Team Fortress 2 up to 1920 x 1080 (lowest settings). However, the minimum frame rates reported by FRAPs can be alarmingly low. As I have mentioned, lowering resolution does not help the reported minimums. Ideally I would like to see AM1 with a higher clock on the CPU in order to help the minimum FPS.
A4-4000 has a higher clocked GPU than Kabini. Increasing GPU clocks is ok as long as it brings some gains. Adding a secondary memory channel is clearly out of the question for the purpose of this product. Also, I'd rather see a proper test of memory scaling on Kabini, than comparing memory scaling on systems with different CPUs.AM1 IGP is just memory limited, just go and compare it to a A4-4000 that has the same one, higher clocks will not do much.
Less TDP is also correct.Less tdp is also incorrect
See chart above. Also... chill?! It's just a small core / low cost platform.higher cpu clocks ARE needed!!!!!!!
higher cpu clocks ARE needed!!!!!!!
See chart above. Also... chill?! It's just a small core / low cost platform.
I think, with Braswell's lower CPU base clocks, at least for Desktop usage, AMD should go for the "kill" and release Beema AM1. Maybe even increase the frequency at the top end (if they can), at the expense of TDP (instead of 15W, would still have 25W TDP).Less TDP is also correct.
See chart above. Also... chill?! It's just a small core / low cost platform.
And as far as being low cost, that is a relative thing.
What AMD really needs is Microsoft to throw in a Windows with Bing OS for the motherboard OEMs.....otherwise I feel this platform has a hard time competing with other Windows licensed hardware.
Would MS have to create a "Starter OEM edition for motherboard makers"?
What would be limited / removed if they did that?
Really? Relative to what is AM1 not a low cost platform?And as far as being low cost, that is a relative thing.
Really? Relative to what?
So your vision of a low cost product is a used product.Used Windows 7 pre-builts can be really cheap.
So your vision of a low cost product is a used product.
For the record, would you state that no new products can be considered low cost products, since used products are always cheaper?
So your vision of a low cost product is a used product.
Okie dokie, can you please name a NEW low cost PC platform?No, but new products must still compete with used surplus products.
Okie dokie, can you please name a NEW low cost PC platform?