AMD Carrizo Pre-release thread

[monstercameron]

@abwx, I'll do the test tonight, was a little more exhausted after work than I thought I would be.

 

[AtenRa]

If you so desperately want threads controlled tightly to your specifications and never discuss things that don't paint AMD in a less-than-positive light, you might be better severed over at AMDZone...

You are way off-topic here and insulting a forum member.

 

[svenge]

instead you are continuing some kind of anti AMD crusade using deffamation and lies

So please project your psychological troubles elsewhere

So you say that I'm the one using "deffamation and lies" (sic), but your accusations that I have "psychological troubles" don't register as such? Wow.

I know that AMD fanboys survive on cognitive dissonance, but you just took it to a whole new level.

By the way spell-check is a thing now, you might want to look it up.

 

[monstercameron]

So you say that I'm the one using "deffamation and lies" (sic), but your accusations that I have "psychological troubles" don't register as such? Wow.

By the way spell-check is a thing now, you might want to look it up.

why do you keep threadcrapping? also he isn't a native english speaker.

 

[dark zero]

Win 10 release is next week

Waiting for real results and the beginning of the School campaing

Braswell will flop Btw due their poor performance

 

[Abwx]

@abwx, I'll do the test tonight, was a little more exhausted after work than I thought I would be.

Ok, dont bother if you re tired...

Your 40W when gaming suggest that the APU is more than 19W on some instances, and it cant be otherwise if the GPU is to be used adequatly.

 

[Abwx]

So you say that I'm the one using "deffamation and lies" (sic), but your accusations that I have "psychological troubles" don't register as such? Wow.

I know that AMD fanboys survive on cognitive dissonance, but you just took it to a whole new level.

By the way spell-check is a thing now, you might want to look it up.

You are unable to make a single post on point in this thread, you know, a thread about Carrizo, at some point this has a meaning, you appear as you are, not as you would want to be perceived, welcome in the internet....

Other than those trivialities of yours, a remark about Carrizo..?.

 

[Abwx]

Geizhals pricer was updated with HP s 17" 1080p version, 50€more than the 900p...

https://geizhals.de/?cat=nb&xf=1482_AMD~6749_12#xf_top

https://geizhals.de/hp-pavilion-17-g054ng-n3x41ea-a1299109.html?hloc=at&hloc=de

 

[dark zero]

Geizhals pricer was updated with HP s 17" 1080p version, 50€more than the 900p...

https://geizhals.de/?cat=nb&xf=1482_AMD~6749_12#xf_top

https://geizhals.de/hp-pavilion-17-g054ng-n3x41ea-a1299109.html?hloc=at&hloc=de

That difference... Would mark between a sure buy and a flop.

 

[Abwx]

That difference... Would mark between a sure buy and a flop.

50€ cheaper is not enough to make the 900p a compelling solution but at 100€ that would be another matter, there are people who look only at the bottom line, i m not even sure that the general public really know much about screens set apart for their apparent size....

Edit :...........

In stock.

• AMD A-Series A10-8700P
• 8GB Memory 750GB HDD
• AMD Radeon R6 Series
• Touchscreen
• 1366 x 768
• Windows 8.1
• DVD Super Multi

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...cm_re=amd_a10_notebook-_-34-260-781-_-Product

 

[jime1]

is A8-7670K a carrizo APU ?

 

[AtenRa]

is A8-7670K a carrizo APU ?

nope, its Godavari (Kaveri)

 

[Abwx]

Another HP :

AMD A10-8700P, 4x 1.80GHz • RAM: 8GB • Festplatte: 1TB SSHD (8GB SSD-Cache) • optisches Laufwerk: DVD+/-RW DL • Grafik: AMD Radeon R7 M360, 2GB, HDMI • Display: 15.6", 1920x1080, non-glare • Anschlüsse: 2x USB 3.0, 1x USB 2.0, LAN • Wireless: WLAN 802.11a/b/g/n/ac, Bluetooth 4.0 • Cardreader: 3in1 (SD/SDHC/SDXC) • Webcam: 1.0 Megapixel • Betriebssystem: FreeDOS • Akku: Li-Ionen, 4 Zellen • Gewicht: 2.20kg

499€

https://geizhals.de/hp-pavilion-15-ab052ng-n3x34ea-a1299534.html?hloc=at&hloc=de


https://geizhals.de/?cat=nb&sort=p&xf=1482_AMD~6749_12#xf_tophttps://geizhals.de/hp-pavilion-15-ab052ng-n3x34ea-a1299534.html?hloc=at&hloc=de

 

[NTMBK]

Why go to the trouble of getting a Carrizo APU, then pairing it with a dGPU anyway? Ugh.

 

[AtenRa]

Why go to the trouble of getting a Carrizo APU, then pairing it with a dGPU anyway? Ugh.

Hybrid CF

 

[NTMBK]

Hybrid CF

Because that's been so useful in the past.

 

[DrMrLordX]

OEMs don't look at things the same way as forum enthusiasts. Ditto for many consumers. They've probably run market surveys that tell them how well a model will sell with a mobile dGPU on the sticker versus those that don't. No OEM wants to bother with educating the public about how fast is such-and-such iGPU or why having a dGPU would be redundant/undesirable. All the public really knows about iGPUs are that most of them, historically, have been slow compared to dGPUs (or just that they're slow and that they want "something faster". Whether or not they really understand what is a dGPU or what are the differences between it and an iGPU is uncertain at best).

Apple seems to be able to "get away with" selling iGPUs to its customers which is why they like Iris Pro for some of their product segments. But then Apple has more brand power than most (if not all) other OEMs.

You may know that a consumer doesn't really need a dGPU on a budget-oriented Carrizo laptop, and I may know that, but does the customer understand that? Not really, which is why you may see many Carrizo laptops with dGPUs that are actually slower than the iGPU included with the Carrizo APU (or faster than, but not by a considerable margin).

 

[dark zero]

Because that's been so useful in the past.

Still useful for now since Intel and NVIDIA can't SLI

 

[Abwx]

The ones that come with a dGPU have an iGP with 384SPs, but if some find it bothering they can buy a 17" one with a 900P screen and no dGPU, of course for the same price as the discussed one, i wonder if people here know that they can disable one of the GPU, wich is likely anyway the case in battery mode...

http://www.notebookcheck.net/AMD-Carrizo-Mainstream-APUs-Overview.144035.0.html

 

[AtenRa]

Because that's been so useful in the past.

It works just fine now.

 

[mikk]

Yes with fine micro stuttering.

 

[Abwx]

Yes with fine micro stuttering.

I guess that it s said with the same competent expertise that made you state this :

Carrizo is a paper launch product.

Perhaps you should read your other posts in this thread before venturing posting what appear more as some kind of fud than anything else.

Post facts, not blank statements that amount to deffamation since there s no argument other than your well know admiration for Intel, Intel cant SLI/CF so a deffamation has to be created to downplay AMD inherently superior solution...

 

[maarten12100]

Yes with fine micro stuttering.

I doubt you have actually ran it it works just fine but the performance improvement isn't really there. It is always like 30-40% rather than the 80-90% that would make it feasible.

AMD's dgpu lineup is cramped with outdated stuff best chip is a Tonga degenerate... Oh I meant to say derivative. AMD could just take Fury's full chip clock it down to 500-600MHz and sell it as a high end notebook chip. The could also start by pairing 512SP Tonga derived chips with GDDR5 and pairing those with the FX-8800p. Either that or don't waste all the effort that was put into making Carrizo efficient because AMD your laptop dgpus are certainly not efficient.

Here is a 15" a10-8700p with 1080P screen and R7 m360 (M260 with Tonga's improvements )
http://geizhals.de/hp-pavilion-15-ab052ng-n3x34ea-a1299534.html

13" 1080P screen no dgpu fx-8800p 100Wh battery. That is all I ask actually you can just give me the board I'll fix the eDP screen, aluminium chassis and battery myself.

 

[frozentundra123456]

Yea, but AMD's own advertising of their APUs is touting them as these great MOBA online gaming platforms. Kind of makes that meaningless when you add a dgpu.

Edit: actually if the price is right, it is not a bad idea. IMO the APUs are still too weak for a real gaming platform, and adding a dgpu for crossfire might just put it over the edge. But still it just seems contradictory to their entire philosophy of Fusion, as well as negating the supposed efficiency of Carizzo.

 

[Abwx]

Yea, but AMD's own advertising of their APUs is touting them as these great MOBA online gaming platforms. Kind of makes that meaningless when you add a dgpu.

Edit: actually if the price is right, it is not a bad idea. IMO the APUs are still too weak for a real gaming platform, and adding a dgpu for crossfire might just put it over the edge. But still it just seems contradictory to their entire philosophy of Fusion, as well as negating the supposed efficiency of Carizzo.

Only the FX8800P has a full GPU, and these solutions will crush any try to compensate Intel s CPUs with dGPUs, without SLI/CF this latter is far behind in perfs/Watts and perfs, and it would take a big GPU to be on par...


http://forums.anandtech.com/showpost.php?p=37574150&postcount=1669

Edit : HP did surely buy most of the current Carrizo chips, they have significantly lower pricing than the competing solutions, curious to see Toshiba prices, their Carrizo-L laptops are as expensive as HP s Carrizo offerings, albeit with an apparently better finish...