AMD Carrizo Pre-release thread

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Abwx

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If they are on the US$400 sub market, they have a chance

You should do some homework before posting such non sense, either you know the perfs and can have a discussion, or else you re just flooding the thread with random statements...

Tell us why it should be at 400$, i m all ears...
 

dark zero

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You should do some homework before posting such non sense, either you know the perfs and can have a discussion, or else you re just flooding the thread with random statements...

Tell us why it should be at 400$, i m all ears...
Because Intel is retarded and selling at that prices some Core i3 U. AMD is not competitive enough to sell for more.
Also I said, SUB US$400
 

Abwx

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Because Intel is retarded and selling at that prices some Core i3 U. AMD is not competitive enough to sell for more.
Also I said, SUB US$400

There s no Broadwell that can compete with Carrizo, as said do your homework before posting, you didnt provide a single number in any of your posts.

So it s clear that you are just here to thread crap the thread and spread fud since you dont even know the perfs of the chip the slightest way.


Here a link :

http://www.notebookcheck.net/AMD-Carrizo-Mainstream-APUs-Overview.144035.0.html

And remember, Intel didnt negate the comparisons made by AMD...
 

maglito

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I too am hoping for better options from Toshiba and Lenovo but at least HP has 1080p display options.

I am concerned that the dGPU will break the 18Gbps HDMI 2.0 output (my main interest in Carrizo). Can anyone that has one of these confirm 2160p resolution @60Hz ?

Thanks!
 
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Abwx

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maarten12100

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Carrizo is a paper launch product, you have to agree.

With micro stutter. If you can live with it, fine for you. Don't speak for all.
Pretty sure AMD has been rolling out drivers with extra care taken of frame pacing since 2013.

But if your opinion is that you're having a lesser experience with AMD without a single shred of proof then you're entitled to that opinion. Just don't sell it as fact as you just did by saying "With micro stutter".
My experience on the subject is that with a fx-7500 with a R7 m250 framesrate went up a game felt smoother. Maybe I'm immune to feeling it though.

Here in NL it totally felt like a paperlaunch by the time I ordered one scumbags at HP send me a Carrizo-L based notebook. Wrong specs everywhere.
 

erunion

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I rarely saw someone that was of so bad faith as to lie in front of everybody, i guess that Carrizo is the source of much desperation for some usual suspects...

It is written "in stock" and was posted the previous page :

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...tm_medium=affiliates&utm_source=afc-Skimlinks

http://forums.anandtech.com/showpost.php?p=37571855&postcount=1660


So i have to agree to what..?

On June 2nd AMD sent a bunch of marketing slides, but no hardware, to Anandtech. Definately a paper launch.

Where are the reviews? Why didn't AMD send out hardware like they have in the past? Are they not confident in their product or can they simple not afford to do it anymore?

Now its 7 weeks later and you are saying that existence of a single laptop on newegg ushers in the real launch of the product? I agree with you that Carrizo is launched, or at least as launched as its going to ever be. The stack of marketing slides was the only launch Carrizo will get.
 
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Abwx

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On June 2nd AMD sent a bunch of marketing slides, but no hardware, to Anandtech. Definately a paper launch.

Where are the reviews? Why didn't AMD send out hardware like they have in the past? Are they not confident in their product or can they simple not afford to do it anymore?

Now its 7 weeks later and you are saying that existence of a single laptop on newegg ushers in the real launch of the product? I agree with you that Carrizo is launched, or at least as launched as its going to ever be. The stack of marketing slides was the only launch Carrizo will get.

That s more an incantation born out of desperation than anything else....

And you should browse through the thread before posting auto contradicting arguments...

Posted two post above yours :

https://geizhals.de/?cat=nb&xf=1482_AMD~6749_12#xf_top

That confirm that there s no worse blind than the one that keep his eyes voluntarly closed..

Hey, i cant see them, they do not exist, lol...

As for paper launches you should take exemple for a certain firm that is currently preparing its third such launch in one year....

Ho, and yesterday i forgot to post bestbuy page....

http://www.bestbuy.ca/en-ca/product...spx?path=fb2b22ca364d34781e2cb7f73bb3be5een02

And also Walmart s :

http://www.walmart.com/ip/HP-Natura...50GB-Hard-Drive-and-Windows-8./45655825#about

 
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mikk

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On June 2nd AMD sent a bunch of marketing slides, but no hardware, to Anandtech. Definately a paper launch.

Where are the reviews? Why didn't AMD send out hardware like they have in the past? Are they not confident in their product or can they simple not afford to do it anymore?

Now its 7 weeks later and you are saying that existence of a single laptop on newegg ushers in the real launch of the product? I agree with you that Carrizo is launched, or at least as launched as its going to ever be. The stack of marketing slides was the only launch Carrizo will get.


Exactly this. I couldn't agree more. Some fanboys can't accept that, even if they have to lie about everything.


Comparisons with Intel BDW can be found here :


On a marketing slide from AMD lol. A typical Abwx. We are still waiting for some real tests from production notebooks.
 

Abwx

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On a marketing slide from AMD lol. A typical Abwx. We are still waiting for some real tests from production notebooks.

Numbers are genuine and are not negated by Intel, wich is an aknowledgment that they were correctly measured that this please you or not.

And you know that they can be sued if they post made up numbers.??.

Because it s actual numbers, not claims a la Intel like "we are the best", it s just that AMD has nothing to hide and they are sure of their products contrary to a competition that hold everybody in the dark and has the arrogance to ask people to trust it at face value, exactly what you re doing, is it a surprise, remember the 1.6x better perf/Watt without any other number..??.

Post Intel s own numbers if you dont agree with AMD...
 

Dresdenboy

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On a marketing slide from AMD lol. A typical Abwx. We are still waiting for some real tests from production notebooks.
You're not the same mikk, who jumped on leaked Intel marketing slides before waiting for some real product tests?
Surely the new GPU king in the tablet space next year by a big margin. I think for gaming the CPU is a bigger problem with Cherry Trail.

BTW, I don't care about soccer fan like behaviour in those forums. I'd just like to see more signs of the intelligence usually attributed to tech geeks.
 
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mikk

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You're not the same mikk, who jumped on leaked Intel marketing slides before waiting for some real product tests?


I know you are an AMD loyalist and therefore prefer to defend AMD posters no matter how foolish this is, but at least you should see the difference between official marketing slides from a (paper) launch and some inofficially leaked slides. Maybe I expected too much from you.

BTW, I don't care about soccer fan like behaviour in those forums. I'd just like to see more signs of the intelligence usually attributed to tech geeks.

This is exactly what you did, you should do better before you ask for something. In the meantime we are still waiting for some real tests based on notebooks on sale. That part must hurt you.
 

Abwx

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In the meantime we are still waiting for some real tests based on notebooks on sale.

You mean these kind of tests; very independent :

http://www.notebookcheck.net/HP-ProBook-430-G2-Notebook-Review-Update.133577.0.html

The CPU tests of the Cinebench benchmarks were performed with a consistent 1.7 GHz. All Turbo levels were maxed out in AC mode.
Score :

2.59 Points
LOL, this is the kind of reviews used by our resident intel supporters to highlight Intel s perfs when it s only shenanigans, Notebookcheck aknowledged that they had to get to the bios and remove power limitations to get those fairy talled scores...

AMD has published some numbers that are more accurate than what sites can provide, an exemple is the power comsumption of a full laptop with X264 video play, 6.01W for Carrizo and 6.91W for a 5200U, that s 20% better at the SoC level.

Now find us Intel s own numbers but just stop your threadrapping, i didnt see you ask for reviews when a troll published a 5.2GHz shot of Skylake, your answer was "I see 5.2GHz", it wasnt to wait for indepenedent reviews that you are suddenly seeking desperatly as an eventual saviour...
 

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I know you are an AMD loyalist and therefore prefer to defend AMD posters no matter how foolish this is, but at least you should see the difference between official marketing slides from a (paper) launch and some inofficially leaked slides. Maybe I expected too much from you.
If I'd be a loyalist, I'd not recommended an Intel CPU recently. And I didn't defend anyone. I just attacked your remark. If you think that inofficially leaked slides never get used in official presentations (which would turn them to official slides without content change) I have to quetion your logic.

I'm here trying to get some things straight, which were bent by either side of the fan crowds.

This is exactly what you did, you should do better before you ask for something. In the meantime we are still waiting for some real tests based on notebooks on sale. That part must hurt you.
No, I actually don't like stubborn soccer fans although my gf is a non-stubborn one herself (and trainer with DFB B licence). The difference is, that stubborn ones try to bend reality, while non-stubborn ones admit, if something is not ok with their loved team.

Back to the observed facts. You didn't question some leaked slides and took the promises for granted, while in case of AMD (where we already had a reality check here supporting the correctnes of AMD's numbers in their slides), you simply question the numbers and revert to waiting for some tests (even not caring for first leaks). Why such two-sided behaviour? And the cherry picking argument doesn't count since this is a known fact already.
 

Abwx

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Back to the observed facts. You didn't question some leaked slides and took the promises for granted, while in case of AMD (where we already had a reality check here supporting the correctnes of AMD's numbers in their slides), you simply question the numbers and revert to waiting for some tests (even not caring for first leaks). Why such two-sided behaviour? And the cherry picking argument doesn't count since this is a known fact already.

Facts apparently dont count if they paint AMD in good light....

At this point there is not even need of reviews for anything else than to validate what we already know.

AMD published numbers are well beyond what is generaly published by any brand in the PC industry, generaly i crawl through reviews to extract numbers like the ones published either by AMD or Thevenin at SA.

Nevermind that one year after its (paper launch) Core M release Intel still didnt publish 1% of the infos that AMD provided in a matter of months, the only sure ones are available on AMD slides, perhaps that Intel is relieved that they didnt had to publish those themselves...:biggrin:
 

MiddleOfTheRoad

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On June 2nd AMD sent a bunch of marketing slides, but no hardware, to Anandtech. Definately a paper launch.

Where are the reviews? Why didn't AMD send out hardware like they have in the past? Are they not confident in their product or can they simple not afford to do it anymore?

That's is probably the dumbest thing I've ever read on the internet. Marketing for most products is always done in advance -- Just a walk around Best Buy today and their were pre-order cards for dozens of video games, movies, even Windows 10. Marketing doesn't mean anything launched.

AMD has been saying that Carrizo is a laptop chip exclusively -- many of its new features require Windows 10 to function. The company has clearly stated on multiple ocassions that Carrizo launches wide with Windows 10. Only one or two OEM's decided to waste their time of using this chip with Windows 8 (and performance probably sucks until migrating to Windows 10 BTW). Just another pathetic rant about nothing.
 

DrMrLordX

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Interesting unit. I wonder if we'll see the 8800P in units like that, or the 8700P in units that cost less? I don't know if the OEMs will keep pushing 20" screen 4Gb RAM 500/750 Gb hdd units in the $300-$400 price range. Feature-wise, that HP AiO is loaded compared to what you get from Jaguar AiOs for half the price.

AMD has been saying that Carrizo is a laptop chip exclusively -- many of its new features require Windows 10 to function. The company has clearly stated on multiple ocassions that Carrizo launches wide with Windows 10. Only one or two OEM's decided to waste their time of using this chip with Windows 8 (and performance probably sucks until migrating to Windows 10 BTW). Just another pathetic rant about nothing.

HP has that Win8.1 unit on which I commented above. I wonder how it performs?

Hell, I wonder if you can overclock it using Overdrive . . .
 

dark zero

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That's is probably the dumbest thing I've ever read on the internet. Marketing for most products is always done in advance -- Just a walk around Best Buy today and their were pre-order cards for dozens of video games, movies, even Windows 10. Marketing doesn't mean anything launched.

AMD has been saying that Carrizo is a laptop chip exclusively -- many of its new features require Windows 10 to function. The company has clearly stated on multiple ocassions that Carrizo launches wide with Windows 10. Only one or two OEM's decided to waste their time of using this chip with Windows 8 (and performance probably sucks until migrating to Windows 10 BTW). Just another pathetic rant about nothing.
Lol... Some OEMs are so retarded that even they put TABLET chips en AIO and Pc. What do you expect this time?
 
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