AMD Carrizo Pre-release thread

[geoxile]

still no mighty 8800P :|

HP Envy 15s has the upgrade option for one.

But for some reason it doesn't have an option for a 1080p screen even though the lower-end Pavilion with 8700p does have a 1080p screen.

It's insane. The Intel HP Envy 15s have options for 1080p and 4k screens.

 

[Abwx]

HP Envy 15s has the upgrade option for one.

But for some reason it doesn't have an option for a 1080p screen even though the lower-end Pavilion with 8700p does have a 1080p screen.

HP even released Beemas with 1080p screens, so that s just a question of days, not even of weeks, for the 8800P to get such a screen.

 

[mikk]

If I'd be a loyalist, I'd not recommended an Intel CPU recently.

You can't deny that, everyone knows it. You are all about AMD.

And I didn't defend anyone.

You are playing AMD police constantly in this thread.

Back to the observed facts. You didn't question some leaked slides

You are clueless. There weren't any performance predictions or benchmark scores in those slides which I could bring into question. That happens when you quote some old unrelated postings for your fanboyism behaviour trying to defend AMD as usual.

 

[dark zero]

To be honest me neither recomend any Intel U Tier CPU lately. It's a total ripoff. Better save some money and getting a H tier who is much better.

 

[AtenRa]

mikk, nobody forcing you to participate in this topic you know.

 

[Dave2150]

I'm interested in a laptop with a fx 8700p/8800p. Can anyone give me an idea of when they are available in the UK? I'll need the laptop for a trip in September.

Many thanks for any help, I haven't been following this thread so I'm not well informed as to availability.

 

[Abwx]

So far the effort seems to be directed to the german market, and to a lesser extent to the US market, rest of Europe will surely have to wait a little...

I suppose that the first FHD models available here and there will be these ones :

http://www.notebooksbilliger.de/notebooks/hp+pavilion+15+ab052ng

http://www.notebooksbilliger.de/notebooks/hp+pavilion+17+g054ng

Or their 768/900p sister models :

http://www8.hp.com/uk/en/products/laptops/product-detail.html?oid=8523148#!tab=specs

 

[podspi]

That's is probably the dumbest thing I've ever read on the internet. Marketing for most products is always done in advance -- Just a walk around Best Buy today and their were pre-order cards for dozens of video games, movies, even Windows 10. Marketing doesn't mean anything launched.

AMD has been saying that Carrizo is a laptop chip exclusively -- many of its new features require Windows 10 to function. The company has clearly stated on multiple ocassions that Carrizo launches wide with Windows 10. Only one or two OEM's decided to waste their time of using this chip with Windows 8 (and performance probably sucks until migrating to Windows 10 BTW). Just another pathetic rant about nothing.

Which features, and how will they make the difference between performance sucking and performance being ... good?

 

[Abwx]

Which features, and how will they make the difference between performance sucking and performance being ... good?

Carrizo is better in about every metric, and has more features, is more future proof, so the difference between good and bad is a clear cut here...


http://www.notebookcheck.net/AMD-Carrizo-Mainstream-APUs-Overview.144035.0.html

 

[erunion]

That's is probably the dumbest thing I've ever read on the internet. Marketing for most products is always done in advance -- Just a walk around Best Buy today and their were pre-order cards for dozens of video games, movies, even Windows 10. Marketing doesn't mean anything launched.

AMD has been saying that Carrizo is a laptop chip exclusively -- many of its new features require Windows 10 to function. The company has clearly stated on multiple ocassions that Carrizo launches wide with Windows 10. Only one or two OEM's decided to waste their time of using this chip with Windows 8 (and performance probably sucks until migrating to Windows 10 BTW). Just another pathetic rant about nothing.

Wow, that's a surprising reaction.

Despite today being the official launch of Carrizo, AMD has been tight lipped on exactly what SKUs will be in the market, how the segregation of products plays out, or even when OEMs are expected to bring them to market

Not to mention that the title of the article is "AMD launches Carrizo".

http://www.anandtech.com/show/9319/...p-leap-of-efficiency-and-architecture-updates

 

[frozentundra123456]

Which features, and how will they make the difference between performance sucking and performance being ... good?

Yea, reminds me of how Win 8 was going to save bulldozer. In fact though, I dont even recall AMD themselves making such extravagent claims for Win 10.

 

[Dresdenboy]

You can't deny that, everyone knows it. You are all about AMD.

You are playing AMD police constantly in this thread.

I'm imterested in uarchitecture. And since most already track Intels moves, there are only ARM (where I expect more and more powerful cores), AMD, and radically new archs left. I hate redundacy, you know.

You are clueless. There weren't any performance predictions or benchmark scores in those slides which I could bring into question. That happens when you quote some old unrelated postings for your fanboyism behaviour trying to defend AMD as usual.

No, the specs already made you happy.

Check my postings. Then you'll see that I try to deliver some more objective views, because most forget, that there are factors like uncertainty, human behaviour, complex systems, etc. The tech world is too complex to understand it with an average IQ. And some apply their simple models of thinking (incl. dichotomic thinking), making it difficult to communicate.

 

[Abwx]

I dont even recall AMD themselves making such extravagent claims for Win 10.

They dont need to, the numbers speak by themselves, and they dont favour Intel, even their much hyped Qsync and the double standard it created are game over in the same row..

And W8 would change nothing set apart for CF perhaps, we ll soon know more about this latter case...

In the waiting a slide about idle power comsumption, at least there will be some usefull info in this page...

Roughly 20% and 55% lower idle comsumption than Intel s i5 5200U and Kaveri respectively..

 

[geoxile]

They dont need to, the numbers speak by themselves, and they dont favour Intel, even their much hyped Qsync and the double standard it created are game over in the same row..

And W8 would change nothing set apart for CF perhaps, we ll soon know more about this latter case...

In the waiting a slide about idle power comsumption, at least there will be some usefull info in this page...

Roughly 20% and 55% lower idle comsumption than Intel s i5 5200U and Kaveri respectively..

What exactly is that graph measuring?

 

[CHADBOGA]

What exactly is that graph measuring?

AMD superiority, it is overwhelming.

 

[Dave2150]

So far the effort seems to be directed to the german market, and to a lesser extent to the US market, rest of Europe will surely have to wait a little...

I suppose that the first FHD models available here and there will be these ones :

http://www.notebooksbilliger.de/notebooks/hp+pavilion+15+ab052ng

http://www.notebooksbilliger.de/notebooks/hp+pavilion+17+g054ng

Or their 768/900p sister models :

http://www8.hp.com/uk/en/products/laptops/product-detail.html?oid=8523148#!tab=specs

Thanks for the info

 

[Arachnotronic]

What exactly is that graph measuring?

Idle battery life in Windows 10?

 

[Abwx]

What exactly is that graph measuring?

Idling time in minutes with a 50Wh battery.

Infos with power numbers and the configuration are on this slide :

Thanks for the info

You re welcome...

 

[Abwx]

AMD superiority, it is overwhelming.

Indeed since this was achieved with 1.5 node handicap...

That said to not waste this post for trivialities i think that a little more info wouldnt be off topic, or is it..??.

And some Open CL, in the waiting of the much awaited 3D Particle movement... :

http://www.notebookcheck.net/AMD-Carrizo-Mainstream-APUs-Overview.144035.0.html

 

[Phynaz]

Idling time in minutes with a 50Wh battery.

Infos with power numbers and the configuration are on this slide :

You re welcome...

Couldn't help but notice the AMD and Intel systems are configured differently.

But then unlike you, I give no credence to marketing slides from any company.

 

[frozentundra123456]

Couldn't help but notice the AMD and Intel systems are configured differently.

But then unlike you, I give no credence to marketing slides from any company.

Yea, still waiting for independent benchmarks on systems you can actually buy.

 

[Arachnotronic]

Couldn't help but notice the AMD and Intel systems are configured differently.

But then unlike you, I give no credence to marketing slides from any company.

The design wins should tell the tale for those who don't want to "follow the money". If Carrizo is as good as the marketing slides claim, then expect a flurry of solid design wins.

Me? I think Skylake will be a superior platform in the metrics that matter to the OEMs, which is why AMD is seemingly failing to capture share (as implied by Intel's and AMD's respective third quarter revenue outlooks) despite the production ramp of Carrizo.

 

[Enigmoid]

Couldn't help but notice the AMD and Intel systems are configured differently.

But then unlike you, I give no credence to marketing slides from any company.

On pre-release windows 10. Could easily be a case of optimized bios/drivers from one company and generic software from the other.

 

[Abwx]

Couldn't help but notice the AMD and Intel systems are configured differently.

But then unlike you, I give no credence to marketing slides from any company.

You couldnt help but threadcrap the thread out of desperation.

There s no differences, systems are the same and you would be hard pressed to point what are the difference...

2x4GB 1600MHz DDR3, 256GB SSD, Windows 10, 50Wh Battery

That s for all systems, and look like the Intel brigade did follow suit without even reading the slide, apparently they prefer to rely to someone who see imaginary differences and still are playing the experts, lol....

 

[Abwx]

The design wins should tell the tale for those who don't want to "follow the money". If Carrizo is as good as the marketing slides claim, then expect a flurry of solid design wins.

Me? I think Skylake will be a superior platform in the metrics that matter to the OEMs, which is why AMD is seemingly failing to capture share (as implied by Intel's and AMD's respective third quarter revenue outlooks) despite the production ramp of Carrizo.

So you re using obviously false claims as an argument for your own agenda..?..

Are you serious when talking of metrics..??.

This term is generaly used by people who know what is precision...

Since you took Phynaz claims at face value, can you point me where are the difference in configuration he allegedly see in this slide ..??.

On pre-release windows 10. Could easily be a case of optimized bios/drivers from one company and generic software from the other.

Same question as for Ashraf, since you apparently agree with the imaginary differences, add your insight so the crew above is better supported in its random lecturings....