Just a few points about the HP Pavilion 17-g054ng in the NBC review
(link : http://www.notebookcheck.com/Carrizo-im-Test-Was-leistet-AMDs-A10-8700P.147092.0.html)
Memory is running at dual Channel but at 1333MHz
iGPU is running at 720MHz instead of 800MHz.
So you have to consider those factors when you comparing the Gaming performance.
800MHz boost must be for the A10-8700P only, the frequency uplift match the perf delta with the A8.At launch in mid 2015 the R6 was used in the AMD A10-8700P and A8-8600P with 384 GCN shaders and 720 resp. 800 MHz clock rate (Boost?)
NBC say that they dont know exactly :
800MHz boost must be for the A10-8700P only, the frequency uplift match the perf delta with the A8.
That makes sense.
BTW, congratulations to 6,666 postings.
Thank you, didnt even notice...
Anectdoticaly i did enqueue about 10 000 songs badly repertoried in a folder the other day with Winamp, the title that numbered 666 in the player was Alan Parson s song Lucifer, amazing, isnt it..?.
Hehe. That's the kind of coincidence, which makes our mind's pattern detection happy.
So... no reviews of the MIA Carrizo?
Yeah, it's a shame... the "wait for Win10" argument isn't valid anymore either, it just seems like they don't want to review it. Maybe they didn't send out review samples and no reviewer wants to buy a Carrizo notebook?
This one was sent by a german shop, and that s why they didnt dismount it as it can no more be sold as new, if ever it is returned.. :
http://www.notebookcheck.com/Carrizo-im-Test-Was-leistet-AMDs-A10-8700P.147092.0.html
So we ll have to wait that an english KB version is sent one day or another, i guess that for the time OEMs prefer to sell them given the tight supply as they are still not available in all countries, among other in France...
Now, I'm starting to believe that even AMD is ashamed of Carrizo....
Its feels like carrizo is not official, maybe some of the AMD employes got together and made the Carrizo APUs in a garage, & now they are "trying" to sell it somehow to the OEMs to earn some extra bucks !!
Hey guys,
people are starting to post benchmarks and gameplay footage with fps counters of the HP Pavilion with the A10-8700P CPU on youtube and the framerates seem to be...rather low, sadly.
This notebook is supposed to have a dGPU, the R7 M360, which should perform similar to the Nvidia GTX 840M, right? What's going on here? Were these people running it with the dGPU off?
For those who have any experience with recent AMD notebooks (Kaveri, etc..), how do you manage the APU + dGPU combo on an AMD laptop anyway ? Does crossfire turn on automatically in games when you plug it in or do you have to activate the dGPU manually?
I assume NBC tested the graphical performance of the HP laptop with the dGPU off?
Yeah, a big review site like Anand could just buy one to make the Carrizo chip review and sell it afterwards, if they don't want to keep it. That would cost them like 100$ maybe...
I assume NBC tested the graphical performance of the HP laptop with the dGPU off?
False it is a Tonga derived chip comparing it to the R7 M260 showed that at roughly the same clocks the R7 M360 had a 15% advantage in Fallout Nv. (only game I tested)Sorry, but that is wrong. The Nvidia GeForce GT840m is quite a bit more powerful than the R7 M360. The R7 is still the old Oland part, and no match for Nvidia's Maxwell. You can find that information if you compare 3DMark 11 scores, where the R7 gets 1720 points and the GT840m 2330.
If you guys are disappointed, imagine how I feel having checking bestbuy for that good looking toshiba satellite radius no longer be in stock or available. I give up, AMD literally doesn't want to sell me anything.
False it is a Tonga derived chip comparing it to the R7 M260 showed that at roughly the same clocks the R7 M360 had a 15% advantage in Fallout Nv. (only game I tested)
But the 840M should be faster than just the dgpu anyways.
Why put the blame on AMD..?.
It is either HP, because of low inventory, or Bestbuy if for the same reason, that dont want to sell you what you want...
First OEM that will show some boldness will get a sizeable growth in this stagnating market, HP did apparently but still too moderatly or eventualy Carrizo supply is still tight, that s a possibility that cant be discarded.
If you guys are disappointed, imagine how I feel having checking bestbuy for that good looking toshiba satellite radius no longer be in stock or available. I give up, AMD literally doesn't want to sell me anything.
So, I'll chip in my opinion as well (after reading a lot of pages on this thread).
I really want Carrizo to be great. I'm typing this from a Beema powered Lenovo Flex 2-14D with the A8 6410 + R5 M230 dGPU, and my current machine is absolutely great considering it only costed me 430 Euro.
But, I'm always looking forward, and more GFX power in a payable 14 inch package is my current wish. Therefore, I'd need at least 512 streamprocessors, something Carrizo offers. Therefore, I'm a bit worried about the things I'm reading about OEMs using lame TDP configs and weird Dual Graphics configs.
Also, I'm a bit disappointed about people talking about things you can change in new laptops. Please stop going on about dual channel ram and ssds. If you want an SSD or dual channel config, please do it yourself! This is Anandtech, and swapping in extra RAM or an SSD should be very doable for everyone here.
About the 'dreaded' 786p screens, I care neither. My current machine has 786p, and it really struggles with current games. So why would you want an even higher resolution (apart from the fact that 1080p screens sometimes happen to be IPS screens, which are of course great)? Very nice that you can play Minecraft on 1080p, but I think its more useful to be running BF4 in 786p with a nice framerate FIRST (no, not on low settings). Only if a machine is running everything decent at 786, manufacturers should look at applying higher resolutions.
But then again, but what REALLY bothers me, are the things we as endusers CAN NOT change. And then, I'm talking mainly about three things. One, we are simply screwed if OEMs choose to only choose the 15w config on these new Carrizo's. I'm not kidding, but then i'll simply keep my Beema device because the upgrade isnt worth it. 15w is the easier option for OEMS, because the average user doesn't know or care, and they can pick a cheaper thermal solution. So I'm really fearing that Carrizo's potential will get screwed by OEMs picking the low 15w TDP settings.
Number two, we can't change a thing about, is the screen sizes OEMs apply. Its cheaper for them to pick 17 inch devices, because theres lots of useless space inside so the manufacturing process is cheaper. However, I personally hate these 'empty' devices, with all the potential being lost. Therefore, I'd really want a 14 inch part, because thats what the chip fits best in, I think. Besides, with 14 inch, the notebook is still portable. I really don't want to go back to 15.6 inch.
Number three, very obvious, is the prices OEMs will give their new devices. Carrizo will just not stand a chance when pricing is over 600 dollars, like HP is currently doing. I mean, for just 649 dollars, I can get a Lenovo Y40-80 14 inch gaming laptop with an I5 5200u and a AMD R9 275. Both on CPU and GPU side, this thing blows Carrizo miles away. You would be a complete moron and thief of your own wallet if you'd buy a Carrizo without dGPU for more than 650 dollars. Therefore, I'd really wish OEMs gave Carrizo the prices it deserves, so between 400 and 600 dollars (what AMD also said). Then they can compete with Intel i3 devices without dGPUs, and the AMD will win gloriously.
Hope you guys value my reply.