AMD Carrizo Pre-release thread

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Flash831

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It would be ridiculous to buy a Carrizo 8700P for prices more than 600 euro / 650 dollar. For that money, you can grab the first i5 + dGPU configurations, which are better across the whole board. So guys, please dont get too enthousiastic about Swedish crap which costs almost a thousand dollars.
Depends solely on what the cost is of competitive products I don't like craptops with HDD's and 768p displays, even if they have i5 and dgpu.

I see it as a positive sign that OEM's are willing to put Carrizo - even a smaller brother (A10-8700P) - in laptops that they then sell expensive. AMD needs to be represented in more expensive products to raise their reputation.
 

gorion

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Based on the Notebookcheck review of the HP notebook, a 1080p 15" A10-8700 notebook with no dgpu would be a decent Steambook for the money.
 

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If you're in the market for 15w, take Carrizo-L. The A8-7410 is a smarter choice because it costs less. Interesting things about new silicon isn't the power envelope, but the procentual gains in performance. If you take Carrizo 15w, you don't have those performance gains. And it will have even less to offer when Skylakes i3s arrive.
So you want to exclude any non-CPU improvements from the start? The 15W market is not just about having max. MT performance or procentual gains.

How about efficient HW video decoding, low idle power, etc.
 

dark zero

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And Intel is using nVIDIA to defeat AMD in everything. If Intel buys nVIDIA eventually is another matter.

AMD has nothing to offer anymore.
 

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And Intel is using nVIDIA to defeat AMD in everything. If Intel buys nVIDIA eventually is another matter.

AMD has nothing to offer anymore.

Different segments of the market. You can buy 2 or 3 AMD A8 laptops for the price of a single Intel laptop with a dedicated Nvidia GPU.
 

Phynaz

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Goodie, I can buy a lot of pos craptops.

I'll stick with buying one good laptop, thanks.
 

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Goodie, I can buy a lot of pos craptops.

I'll stick with buying one good laptop, thanks.
OK, it's even no prob to buy many good ones. But what for? What about those with laptop budgets < $300 (an arbitrary number)? Still the majority on this planet belongs to that group.
 

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OK, it's even no prob to buy many good ones. But what for? What about those with laptop budgets < $300 (an arbitrary number)? Still the majority on this planet belongs to that group.


He is rich so he can afford it. Meanwhile the rest of us have to buy in the range we can afford.
 

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OK, it's even no prob to buy many good ones. But what for? What about those with laptop budgets < $300 (an arbitrary number)? Still the majority on this planet belongs to that group.

Yeah -- and if you shop around you can get a pretty nice laptop for $300. Sure, mine only has a 768p screen and the battery life isn't spectacular.... But otherwise, I love it.
My cheap Asus laptop completely fell apart after year -- but this Toshiba with a 15 inch screen, built in DVD burner and a A8 has good build quality and reasonably good performance.
 

Abwx

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He is rich so he can afford it. Meanwhile the rest of us have to buy in the range we can afford.

According to NBC, the tested HP :

The display already convinces with a great color accuracy and grayscale performance ex-works, which can even be on a reference level after a calibration: Average DeltaE deviations smaller than 1.0 are otherwise only known from MacBooks and some graphics workstations, but not multimedia notebooks for less than 600 Euros (~$668). In combination with the impressive color-space coverage of 95.9% sRGB and 61.9% AdobeRGB, the panel is even suited for picture and graphics editing.
http://www.notebookcheck.net/HP-Pavilion-17-g054ng-Notebook-Review.147794.0.html


Obviously there s tons of people who dont read reviews, they will generally buy the sister model that cost the same, but has no OS and only a 900p screen, and of course has an Intel CPU...:biggrin:

http://www.notebookcheck.net/HP-Pavilion-17-2015-Notebook-Review.142789.0.html
 

maarten12100

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According to NBC, the tested HP :

http://www.notebookcheck.net/HP-Pavilion-17-g054ng-Notebook-Review.147794.0.html


Obviously there s tons of people who dont read reviews, they will generally buy the sister model that cost the same, but has no OS and only a 900p screen, and of course has an Intel CPU...:biggrin:

http://www.notebookcheck.net/HP-Pavilion-17-2015-Notebook-Review.142789.0.html
I wonder how the score for chassis is different yet they have the same chassis, right? Having had the 17 inch chassis in hand I can say that it's not really worth that high a score it's pretty flimsy.
 

maarten12100

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The photo of the dismounted laptop displayed on the article is actualy the one of the sister model...

Other than that they look to be available in Belgium as well...

http://www.fr.fnac.be/HP-PAVILION-15-AB050NB-15-6-A10-8700-4-500-A-R7M360-2GB-BLUE/a8940821

Store is a french chain, so it shouldnt be long before they are also sold here...
That config though not the colour and the keyboard is already available in Germany. Not yet in NL though.

Are you from France?
 

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maarten12100

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Already any word about FX8800p devices? Or at least 8700's with TDP up to 35?
People already have the HP Envy(fx-8800p) in hand however it's locked to 15W

Saturn has the 17 inch fx-8800p based notebook available at a high price. Not sure why buy a 900 euro laptop which only plus is the fx-8800p.
For 900 euros you can get way nicer things as in better screen, SSD, bigger battery. Though those are all thing you could do yourself.
http://www.saturn.de/mcs/product/_ACER-Aspire-E-17,48352,241166,2044268.html?langId=-3
 
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mpc007

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That's a pity. You're based in the Netherlands too, right? My current notebook I imported from Germany, usually their offers are better than ours. Par example; Lenovo does offer less formfactors here than they do in other countries.

I'm still hoping for a 14 inch part with the FX8800p at 35w or the A10 8700p at 35w plus a dGPU in DX Dual Graphics config...
 

maarten12100

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That's a pity. You're based in the Netherlands too, right? My current notebook I imported from Germany, usually their offers are better than ours. Par example; Lenovo does offer less formfactors here than they do in other countries.

I'm still hoping for a 14 inch part with the FX8800p at 35w or the A10 8700p at 35w plus a dGPU in DX Dual Graphics config...
Yup NL here too. I got my fx-7500 based notebook from Germany it was a bit of a letdown though. This time around the extra 128SPs actually make sense since the bandwidth bottleneck has been reduced yet they are impossible to come by. 500 euros for a 8700p based notebook with 15,6" FHD screen is not bad though. The only model that I really feel like is going to be great is that Asus X555DG but it's nowhere to be seen.
 

gorion

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It's the same price as the one in Germany which has a FHD screen. However that one in Italy has Windows installed while the German one hasn't. Thing is pre installed bloat/spy/mal-ware windows is the worst so I don't think it's a huge pro.

But then you should include a windows license so price isn't the same. Which is normal given different panel,I think
 

mpc007

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But then you should include a windows license so price isn't the same. Which is normal given different panel,I think

Think a lot of us have OS's ready to install on empty machines. So if that does make it cheaper, I'd go for it.
 
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