AMD Carrizo Pre-release thread

[MiddleOfTheRoad]

Its been the same story for almost 10 years with AMD. Why do some people still fall for it?

Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. But we are way beyond that.

Why do some people fall for it? You mean like Microsoft, Sony and Nintendo?

 

[DrMrLordX]

35W + rest of system (excluding the screen) will get you up to 45W within the laptop casing, those could eventualy find its way in medium sized AIOs but for laptops that s too much even for a 17".

If that is the case, AMD should not have sold a 512sp Carrizo to notebook OEMs. Not that they can control exactly how such things will be used, but what we are seeing are set-top boxes and the like running Bay Trail-M/T, not laptops running Bay Trail-D.

 

[ShintaiDK]

Why do some people fall for it? You mean like Microsoft, Sony and Nintendo?

I dont think they fall for the PR slides.

 

[mpc007]

But there are a lot notebooks with more than 35 watt right? I mean, if you pick an i7 HQ and pair it with a dGPU, its probably more than 50, maybe 60. And you find those combo's even in 14 inchers (Alienware, Razer Blade, etc). So its possible, just not attractive for OEMS, since they have to invest in good thermal solutions which the mainstream buyer public don't value because they don't know how it works.

 

[dark zero]

Carrizo and Carrizo-L are socket compatible.

Prepare (and we are already seeing it) to see a TON of crapbooks designed for Carrizo-L with Carrizo thrown in. TDP limited at 15-20W and possibly a mobo designed only for single channel RAM.

And or course build quality aimed at the beema/mullins end of the market.

We already seeing that with Intel... tons of notebook designed to use Celeron U or Pentium H using crappy tablet processors... seriously?

OEM's are getting more and more retarded.

 

[Enigmoid]

But there are a lot notebooks with more than 35 watt right? I mean, if you pick an i7 HQ and pair it with a dGPU, its probably more than 50, maybe 60. And you find those combo's even in 14 inchers (Alienware, Razer Blade, etc). So its possible, just not attractive for OEMS, since they have to invest in good thermal solutions which the mainstream buyer public don't value because they don't know how it works.

Just my observations on OEMs and cooling.

Look at lenovo's higher end midrange gaming laptops. Namely the y580, y500, y510/p, and y50.

Several years ago the y series were getting a lot of recommendations as they were decent quality midrange gaming notebooks for cheap. y580 included a gtx 660m and the y500 a 650m (with SLI options). I have the y580 model and its a generally nice notebook (keyboard and trackpad suck). I can run this notebook on Furmark + Prime 95 endlessly and maintain max turbo. ~ 6.4 points CB 11.5 MT

The y500 can maintain max turbo during games but Prime + Furmark drops the CPU to its 2.4 ghz base clock.

The y510p cannot maintain boost clocks during cinebench MT ONLY. Same with the y50. As a consequence these notebooks get approximately 5.4 points in CB 11.5 MT.

Lenovo has definitely cheaped out on the thermal solution on the y line (similar to the yogo 3).

 

[monstercameron]

new sku
http://www.walmart.com/ip/Dell-Silv...05510564190209086074&affillinktype=10&veh=aff

 

[logiotek]

Now AMD started to advertise Carrizo laptops:

http://shop.amd.com/en-us/promo?k=6...0&spJobID=620958940&spReportId=NjIwOTU4OTQwS0

 

[monstercameron]

the stilt got his hand on a carrizo dev machine.
http://www.overclock.net/t/1560230/jagatreview-hands-on-amd-fx-8800p-carrizo/360#post_24279106

 

[frozentundra123456]

new sku
http://www.walmart.com/ip/Dell-Silv...05510564190209086074&affillinktype=10&veh=aff

Shows out of stock in my region.

 

[monstercameron]

Shows out of stock in my region.

same here.

 

[Flash831]

Carrizo laptops seems to be incoming to Sweden in 10 days (20.8.2015). I think it seems attractive. And not the cheapest one either :awe:

6795 SEK = 781 USD

https://www.komplett.se/acer-aspire...S&assoc=B99EC1DD-959C-4C0C-9D36-284FB69F5D76#

 

[MiddleOfTheRoad]

I dont think they fall for the PR slides.

Yeah, they just order 40+ million APU's after they realize it meets their needs like most objective people would. Lucky for us, you don't have any objectivity -- just FUD.

 

[Shivansps]

Yeah, they just order 40+ million APU's after they realize it meets their needs like most objective people would. Lucky for us, you don't have any objectivity -- just FUD.

Yeah i do remember what OEMs had to do with all those A4-1200 once BT got released.

 

[jime1]

Has any 1 checked this : http://www.notebookcheck.net/Carrizo-in-Review-How-does-AMD-s-A10-8700P-perform.147654.0.html

 

[jime1]

Now AMD started to advertise Carrizo laptops:

http://shop.amd.com/en-us/promo?k=6thgen&promo=6thgen&utm_source=silverpop&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=23233099&utm_term=_img_%20shop%20now&utm_content=global-general-notifyme-carrizo(6gen)_us%20(1):&spMailingID=23233099&spUserID=MTEyNDU4MDY5MDU5S0&spJobID=620958940&spReportId=NjIwOTU4OTQwS0

But not much detailed specs, rough work !! come on AMD !!!!

PS: At least hp cares about it : http://store.hp.com/us/en/pdp/Lapto...BYatgE-6rDIBHoLm.wq97I3HKGVtw#!&TabName=specs

and and... its customizable !! w00t ...........?!!

 

[mrmt]

Yeah, they just order 40+ million APU's after they realize it meets their needs like most objective people would. Lucky for us, you don't have any objectivity -- just FUD.

It's been a few years since AMD annual sales plunged below 40 million units per year total, let alone 40 million units of any single product.

 

[mrmt]

But not much detailed specs, rough work !! come on AMD !!!!

PS: At least hp cares about it : http://store.hp.com/us/en/pdp/Lapto...BYatgE-6rDIBHoLm.wq97I3HKGVtw#!&TabName=specs

and and... its customizable !! w00t ...........?!!

yes, you can choose to cripple your Carrizo notebook with either 1 8GB DIMM or 2gb + 4gb DIMMs configurations, add the HDD and the gorgeous 768p and we're set.

 

[jime1]

yes, you can choose to cripple your Carrizo notebook with either 1 8GB DIMM or 2gb + 4gb DIMMs configurations, add the HDD and the gorgeous 768p and we're set.

hahaaaa:biggrin::awe::ninja: Gaud save AMD ()

 

[Shivansps]

yes, you can choose to cripple your Carrizo notebook with either 1 8GB DIMM or 2gb + 4gb DIMMs configurations, add the HDD and the gorgeous 768p and we're set.

well 2GB+4GB tecnically is dual channel.

 

[Dresdenboy]

Carrizo laptops seems to be incoming to Sweden in 10 days (20.8.2015). I think it seems attractive. And not the cheapest one either :awe:

6795 SEK = 781 USD

https://www.komplett.se/acer-aspire...S&assoc=B99EC1DD-959C-4C0C-9D36-284FB69F5D76#

That Acer E5-552G has been seen before. 2x4GB is nice. FHD too. What voltage does that 4 cell have? At the 14.8V I found somewhere, this should be ~37Wh.

 

[Abwx]

That Acer E5-552G has been seen before. 2x4GB is nice. FHD too. What voltage does that 4 cell have? At the 14.8V I found somewhere, this should be ~37Wh.

That s about it, nominal voltage at 100% charge is 3.8V/cell.

 

[ET]

Carrizo and Carrizo-L are socket compatible.

Prepare (and we are already seeing it) to see a TON of crapbooks designed for Carrizo-L with Carrizo thrown in. TDP limited at 15-20W and possibly a mobo designed only for single channel RAM.

And or course build quality aimed at the beema/mullins end of the market.

Which is precisely what I want (except the single channel, but if there are two slots, I'll populate them myself with 2x4GB). That's the entire point of Carrizo, decent performance at low power settings. And the entire point of buying an AMD machine is good performance/price. Not to mention that the entire point of Carrizo and Carrizo-L being socket compatible is to allow OEM's to produce both cheaper and slower and somewhat more expensive and faster versions of the same laptop.

Really, that's the kind of laptops I expected and was looking for, not some higher end machines. If we get a TON of these, then that would certainly mean AMD has succeeded. My worry is that we'll get only a small number of Carrizo laptops, regardless of specs.

 

[Abwx]

Some troubling methods at NBC....

Battery life in minimal power is measured with a battery that is charged at only 93%.

At 45mn the battery capacity is shaved of 4% of its capacity in a matter of 2-3mn, this amount to full loading using the dGPU.

Since the total capacity used for battery life tests is 92% of the total capacity this reduce the autonomy number by 12%, indeed their fishy number would amount to 5W comsumption under battery while this is contradicted by the measurement at the main wich is 4.1W...

 

[DrMrLordX]

the stilt got his hand on a carrizo dev machine.
http://www.overclock.net/t/1560230/jagatreview-hands-on-amd-fx-8800p-carrizo/360#post_24279106

Good find, though his machine is TDP limited to 25W. He's sure to provide some interesting feedback on the machine.

Also, it's looking like Eurozone gets the better laptop designs. Go figure.