AMD Computex Live Stream

[tential]

To try to upsell people by only talking about the high end stuff first - NV have done this a few times. The 1080 gets all the press until it's available to buy, then it's the 1070 that gets talked about and so on. Who knows if the lower cards are ready yet or not at this point, but that's why the launch was the way it was.

I agree with you, hence I asked him to explain his comment since if GP106 is ready why not release it?
Especially considering earlier comments about how if P10 is ready AMD should release it right now instead of waiting, if GP106 is ready Nvidia should release it now instead of waiting...

 

[oussama-tn]

I wonder how will the rx 480 perform in mining

 

[Riek]

You act like there wont come anything lower. There will. All pascal dies are ready.

That means GP108, GP107, GP106, GP104, GP102, GP100.

AMD in conjunction with Nvidia killed of Fiji, Hawaii and Tonga.

AMD got Polaris 10 and 11 to fight until Vega sometime in 2017.

1080 is out of stock.
1070 is not yet launched.

And here we talk as if NVIDIA has 2 fully released products that can be bought already..

To top that they apparently can release the lower chips and bigger chips as well... while they currently can't even deliver one chip decently..

SO no, all the others are not ready for now, otherwise they would have released them already.

 

[ShintaiDK]

1080 comes in and out of stock every day. Plenty of sales. You can also just backorder and have it in 2-3 days tops. So that excuse is old and useless.

Polaris 10 haven't even launched yet either.

 

[Qwertilot]

There are definitely some publicity considerations in terms of NV staggering their releases like they've been doing, but I suspect a good chunk of it is down to the deeply prosaic reason of them trying to keep their logistics halfway sane.

Not just for them - keeping up with launch demand is not at all easy! - but also useful for the AIBs having to arrange all the different sorts of each new card, stockists etc.

Much easier to cope if its spread over ~3 months than all at once.

 

[IEC]

1080 comes in and out of stock every day. Plenty of sales. You can also just backorder and have it in 2-3 days tops. So that excuse is old and useless.

Polaris 10 haven't even launched yet either.

[Citation needed]

 

[LTC8K6]

I read somewhere that 1070 will be available June 10th?

 

[exar333]

[Citation needed]

Multiple SKUs popped in-stock last night on EVGA and Newegg.

 

[james1701]

Was it just me, or was there a large IQ difference in the 1080 and crossfire video.

Also he was repeating bringing console quality to pc gaming. Should that not be the other way around?

 

[flopper]

Was it just me, or was there a large IQ difference in the 1080 and crossfire video.

game engine adds variables with weather

 

[kraatus77]

Was it just me, or was there a large IQ difference in the 1080 and crossfire video.

Also he was repeating bringing console quality to pc gaming. Should that not be the other way around?

console level efficiency not quality.

 

[Noctifer616]

Was it just me, or was there a large IQ difference in the 1080 and crossfire video.

Not IQ but rather the terrain textures use procedural generation so the snow covering the ground is different every time you run the bench.

 

[sm625]

When AMD showed that slide comparing that $700 card in Ashes of Singularity with Dual RX480 they could have used $400 rather than showing $500.It would have looked MUCH better.
Also instead of quoting 150W TDP they should have instead mentioned the actual power used when gaming.That would be around 120W? That would have looked great too.

To be fair, they did use the words "better performance + efficiency". Which means they must be using FRTC to cap the FPS to a point just slightly above a 1080. That might also explain the low GPU utilization at 51%. It could be 51% because that is all that is required to cap the FPS at 62. At 51% utilization, each card has to be drawing only 85 to 89 watts max in order to claim "better performance + efficiency".

 

[ShintaiDK]

Multiple SKUs popped in-stock last night on EVGA and Newegg.

Yep, and I bought mine on backorder. I got it yesterday

 

[ShintaiDK]

Was it just me, or was there a large IQ difference in the 1080 and crossfire video.

Also he was repeating bringing console quality to pc gaming. Should that not be the other way around?

AMD left, NVidia right.

 

[Stuka87]

And its done in a title that heavily favours AMD.

Dont get your hopes up for actual game titles...

1: AotS is an "Actual Game"

2: BF4 is how many years old now? Why bring up a several year old DX11 title to show superiority?

3: DX12 is the future whether you like it or not. How a brand new card performs in several year old games is a moot point. How it performs in tomorrows games is what we care about. Nobody spends big money to buy a GPU in order to run an old game.

 

[Vesku]

I'm very interested in tesselation performance as well as rasterization and pixel shading(?). Basically curious to see if some of the node shrink Polaris transistor budget went into making it very difficult to get GameWrecked this generation.

 

[selni]

1: AotS is an "Actual Game"

2: BF4 is how many years old now? Why bring up a several year old DX11 title to show superiority?

3: DX12 is the future weather you like it or not. How a brand new card performs in several year old games is a moot point. How it performs in tomorrows games is what we care about. Nobody spends big money to buy a GPU in order to run an old game.

To be fair I suspect no one spends big money to play AotS either, it's not exactly a mainstream title. It's taken on importance in review wildly out of proportion to the player base solely due to the lack of any other good DX12 implementations to date. Concluding which GPU brand is "better" from a single DX11 game would be ludicrous, why does it make sense for DX12?

Now it may be a sign of things to come but the only other DX12 titles we've seen are hitman - which yes leans towards AMD but does in DX11 too anyway and RotTR which is a mixed bag at best and probably best left on DX11 on everything. There's a few major titles this year that should give us a clearer picture.

 

[DarkKnightDude]

Was it just me, or was there a large IQ difference in the 1080 and crossfire video.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/4lz6ay/anyone_else_noticed_this_at_the_amd_livestream/d3rc5hv

Ashes of the singularity uses some form of procedual generation for its texture generation ( aswell as unit composition/behavior to prevent driver cheats) which means that every game session and bench run will have various differences in some details.
You can see this quite well in the second image. Looking at the chasm like drop off in front of the mountain (top portion) you can see that on the 480 side it's actually half filled with snow, while the 1080 run is pretty much... "dry" down there. Same can be observed with various mountain ledges where any remotely flat surface is covered in thick white snow on the 480 and hardly any on the 1080. Lastly the plateau on top of the same mountain is basically all snow on the 480 with almost no rock texture retained while on the 1080 the would-be snow layer is thin enough to show some of the rock's detail beneath.
Obviously, thick layers of snow will reduce apparent detail but that does not mean the scene becomes any easier to render. It's just that one seed looks more complex than the other.
tl;dr: Procedual terrain texture generation gave the 480 a much more snowy "seed". Differences in perceived detail are due to snow being inherently "boring" and probably purely aesthetic.

I don't play Ashes, cananyone comment on if the benchmark looks different each time but still 'similar"?

 

[Bacon1]

AMD left, NVidia right.

Yep Nvidia is lacking lots of the snow

 

[Genx87]

The difference here is that AMD will have $199 to $300 cards replacing Fiji, Hawaii and Tonga, when NVIDIA will sell obsolete GTX960/970 and 980. The only new cards NVIDIA will sell are at the $400+ low volume segment.

Expect a 1060 in the 299 range. I would expect a smaller die in the sub 299 range. And knowing Nvidia they will launch it early July just in time to ruin Polaris 10s launch. And everybody will be shocked and taken by surprise Nvidia has done this for the nth time to AMD.

 

[exar333]

Expect a 1060 in the 299 range. I would expect a smaller die in the sub 299 range. And knowing Nvidia they will launch it early July just in time to ruin Polaris 10s launch. And everybody will be shocked and taken by surprise Nvidia has done this for the nth time to AMD.

I am expecting pretty close parity between the GX480 and 1060 in terms of price. Likely will see the usual $20-30 NV price premium, but pretty close...rumors are 4GB and 8GB models as well, so NV will probably slot them in at $229 (4GB) and $269 (8GB) or whereabouts?

 

[brag.yondide]

Very, very impressed by Lisa Su! Compare with the embarrassingly fulsome JHH.

 

[boozzer]

Multiple SKUs popped in-stock last night on EVGA and Newegg.

that timing, ahahahahaha.

 

[SteveGrabowski]

[Citation needed]

Here is a 1080 in stock right now at newegg:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814500396