AMD CPU under 100$

[erunion]

This getting really complicated when i get different suggestions from you , i also have watched gaming reviews on youtube, and 860k wasnt worse than i3

Sorry if my suggestions seemed contradictory.
My point is one should avoid spending extra on accessories to squeeze a little more performance out of a cheap CPU, as that money is usually better spent on upgrading the CPU itself.

The 680k is a fine chip for the price. But even overclocked its not faster than a more expensive Intel haswell i3.

 

[DrMrLordX]

The 860k can do alright on stock cooling. If you are lucky, you might hit 4.5 ghz that way, or you might not. Some top out at 4.3 ghz. It's worth the risk if you are on a budget. Otherwise, even some basic aftermarket cooling like a Coolermaster Hyper 212 Evo will take care of heat problems.

You can also pick up some extra performance on an 860k if you push the NB to 2 ghz or higher and shop around for some dual-rank DIMMs. It isn't always easy to find those, but it does help some when you do.

 

[erunion]

No i dont have extra money just wonder if i need extra cooling for this 860k because some say it getting very hot and default cooler get very loud.
Saved money will go for ssd because i didnt include it to my budget

Sounds good!

My suggestion would be to overclock it on the stock cooler to whatever noise/temperature you're comfortable with.

 

[kawi6rr]

Thank you all for your help, i really appreciate it. I havent decided which cpu i will go for but i got a picture and information given was very useful for me.

What you have here are a few Intel fanboys doing their best to talk you out of buying AMD. If you were to purchase any of those AMD chips you will be plenty happy and they will do everything you need. You will not notice the difference between Intel and AMD in everyday tasks. You will see alot of graphs throw around in this thread by said fanboys and that's the only place you're going to notice a difference between chips.

 

[escrow4]

Just save up an extra hundred for a 4690 non K and an H97 board and stop wasting time for AMD. Their chips are rubbish for gaming. You will bottleneck any half decent card @ 1080p, never mind 720p. Then you will have a long lasting CPU and won't need to worry about bottlenecks.

 

[Yuriman]

upgrade path? What exactly do u mean?

The socket the 860K is on has no faster chips available, while with an i3 you have a wide choice of higher-end CPUs to drop in later.

No i dont have extra money just wonder if i need extra cooling for this 860k because some say it getting very hot and default cooler get very loud.
Saved money will go for ssd because i didnt include it to my budget

Can't speak for the 860K personally, but all CPUs will run safely with the cooler they come with.

 

[Yuriman]

What you have here are a few Intel fanboys doing their best to talk you out of buying AMD. If you were to purchase any of those AMD chips you will be plenty happy and they will do everything you need. You will not notice the difference between Intel and AMD in everyday tasks. You will see alot of graphs throw around in this thread by said fanboys and that's the only place you're going to notice a difference between chips.

Kindof, heh. I feel I have valid reasons for recommending an i3, but an 860K should be adequate for your needs, OP.

 

[magnus3142]

Well i do respect both intel and amd sides here. I have no experence with amd at all so i cant say its bad or good, i think i should try and see.
Just im so frustraiting of one thing. Considering youtube video reviews, amd with higher number of cores and GHZ can lose to intel. I may be wrong but this is what i see. sad

 

[erunion]

Kindof, heh. I feel I have valid reasons for recommending an i3, but an 860K should be adequate for your needs, OP.

Dont feed him.

Of course there is a noticeable difference between an $80 CPU and a $130+ CPU. Anyone saying otherwise is trolling.

 

[escrow4]

GTA V last month:

http://www.techspot.com/review/991-gta-5-pc-benchmarks/page6.html

"Clocked at 4.5GHz the FX series is slower than a Core i7 clocked at just 2.5GHz in GTA V which is obviously disappointing"

An 8350 @ 4.7GHz can't match a Haswell i5 @ 3.0GHz and you need a 9590 @ 5.0GHz to match an Haswell i3.

And you are still considering AMD?

 

[kawi6rr]

Dont feed him.

Of course there is a noticeable difference between an $80 CPU and a $130+ CPU. Anyone saying otherwise is trolling.

Trolling? Is that all you have!

I took my computer over to my buddy’s house to do some comparisons both running Win 7 64bit professional.

My setup
FX 8350
R9 280x
16gigs or ram

His setup
I5 3570k
GTX 770
16gigs or ram
Benchmarks show his system being faster, pretty graphs and that’s it. Side by side running Bf4, Thief, and Titanfall you could not see any difference period. They looked identical to the eye in gameplay. You’re going to have many AMD haters telling you to jump ship but or don't buy AMD. You can make great systems with AMD and Intel.

 

[kawi6rr]

GTA V last month:

http://www.techspot.com/review/991-gta-5-pc-benchmarks/page6.html

"Clocked at 4.5GHz the FX series is slower than a Core i7 clocked at just 2.5GHz in GTA V which is obviously disappointing"

An 8350 @ 4.7GHz can't match a Haswell i5 @ 3.0GHz and you need a 9590 @ 5.0GHz to match an Haswell i3.

And you are still considering AMD?

Pretty chart.

 

[escrow4]

Three different websites showed AMD to have absymal performance, and you call them pretty? Even Eurogamer posted numerous articles about V's performance and how it hammers CPUs:

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2015-grand-theft-auto-5-pc-performance

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2015-the-best-pc-hardware-for-grand-theft-auto-5

AMD is rubbish for gaming in 2015. It can't hit 60FPS minimums and can't match the slowest Haswell i5.

 

[kawi6rr]

Three different websites showed AMD to have absymal performance, and you call them pretty? Even Eurogamer posted numerous articles about V's performance and how it hammers CPUs:

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2015-grand-theft-auto-5-pc-performance

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2015-the-best-pc-hardware-for-grand-theft-auto-5

AMD is rubbish for gaming in 2015. It can't hit 60FPS minimums and can't match the slowest Haswell i5.

More pretty charts, at least you're consistent. I at least made an effort to make a in person comparison, charts show you one aspect of computing seeing it in person makes the biggest difference.

 

[jji7skyline]

Considering the price difference between an i5 and an FX8350, the FX is quite a good deal. If OP can step up to an 8320E or something he would get a lot of bang for his buck.

 

[erunion]

I warned you not to feed him. All you've gotten was the same reply parroted a couple times.

 

[AtenRa]

Thanks, my mistake.guess I was thinking of h87.

No problem, not many know this.

 

[AtenRa]

I can tell you you can OC the Athlon 860K to 4GHz (turbo off and LLCs at high) with lower Voltage than default. You can reach 4.1 to 4.3GHz by fine tuning with the default Cooler. At those settings it will be enough to drive even a R9 290X/GTX980.

 

[Enigmoid]

I can tell you you can OC the Athlon 860K to 4GHz (turbo off and LLCs at high) with lower Voltage than default. You can reach 4.1 to 4.3GHz by fine tuning with the default Cooler. At those settings it will be enough to drive even a R9 290X/GTX980.

:whiste:

 

[jji7skyline]

I can tell you you can OC the Athlon 860K to 4GHz (turbo off and LLCs at high) with lower Voltage than default. You can reach 4.1 to 4.3GHz by fine tuning with the default Cooler. At those settings it will be enough to drive even a R9 290X/GTX980.

Depends on the game. RTS games are CPU bottlenecked by even the most expensive CPUs.

 

[AtenRa]

:whiste:

Have a look how good the A8-7650K at 3.3GHz performs with the R9 290X/GTX980 in the AT review. Now at 4.3GHz it will come very close or even outperform the Core i3 4330 in may many games.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/9217/the-amd-a8-7650k-apu-review-also-new-testing-methodology/9

 

[jji7skyline]

Have a look how good the A8-7650K at 3.3GHz performs with the R9 290X/GTX980 in the AT review. Now at 4.3GHz it will come very close or even outperform the Core i3 4330 in may many games.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/9217/the-amd-a8-7650k-apu-review-also-new-testing-methodology/9

I don't think that even a Core i3 is a good CPU to pair with a GTX980.

 

[SlowSpyder]

I own GTA V, an FX is plenty for that game. In one of the anti-AMD posters own links a four module FX @ 3.5GHz gets 60FPS. OP, I'd get the FX 6300 in your budget. It isn't the fastest, but you are budgeted for the fastest. But it offers great bang for the buck, in many day to day tasks you'll never notice a differnce.

 

[AtenRa]

I don't think that even a Core i3 is a good CPU to pair with a GTX980.

From the AT review of the A8-7650K. An overclocked Athlon 860K at 4.3GHz will be faster than the A10-7850K bellow.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/9217/the-amd-a8-7650k-apu-review-also-new-testing-methodology

Alien Isolation
Core i5 4690K + GTX770 = 123,35
A8-7650K + GTX980 = 137,84

TotalWar Attila
Core i5 4690K + GTX770 = 20,6
A8-7650K + GTX980 = 23,9
A10-7850K + GTX980 = 24,4

GTA V
Core i5 4690K + GTX770 = 48,8
A8-7650K + GTX980 = 48,35

Grid Autosport
Core i5 4690K + GTX770 = 111,45
A8-7650K + GTX980 = 105,29
A10-7850K + GTX980 = 113,73

Shadows Of Mordor (1080p)
Core i5 4690K + GTX770 = 41,36
A8-7650K + GTX980 = 88,19
A10-7850K + GTX980 = 91,17

Shadows Of Mordor (4k)
Core i5 4690K + GTX770 = 18,23
A8-7650K + GTX980 = 38,10
A10-7850K + GTX980 = 38,46


Seams to me an Athlon 860K at 4.3GHz will be just fine with the GTX980

ps: Seams TotalWar is also GPU limited

 

[Yuriman]

After sleeping on it, I'm pretty set on recommending the OP and i3. It's not because there is a world of difference in performance compared with an FX-6300 or Athlon 860K, but rather mostly because neither of those CPUs have a real upgrade path (there's nothing really better to drop in their sockets). I'm sure an FX or 860K or i3 will all perform fine today, probably not noticeably different from each other in a vast majority of cases, but the i3 will do it while sipping power, silently, with the option to drop in an i5 or i7 later.