AMD drops it all, who will buy the new Fury?

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tential

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On the other hand why have a top-end card without a top-end cooling solution? Why not add the onerous task of screwing a radiator to your case in return for a massive benefit in terms of thermals and noise? Personally I'm comparing the Fury X as being $100 cheaper than a 980Ti because that's how much they get for the EVGA Hybrid and that's well worth having.
Exactly. I'm getting $100 extra value from amd. But well like I said. Since amd is first to make wc standard high-end it's not cool. Second the new high end nvidia card has watercooling it will be revolutionary

As for performance? My guess is it will be great. I think amd didn't talk performance because they want reviewers to talk performance. The class of people purchasing that high end gpu won't trust performance numbers anyway from amd. If amd said any performance numbers I'd have just wanted for a review anyway. A person who cares what the Performance numbers are and is following this launch doesn't care what amd says they are lol.....
 
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Despoiler

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Im not sure why they didn't really have any sort of performance slides. Either they are keeping it a big secret or it just doesn't perform enough.

Reviews cant come soon enough!

It's a standard format for product reveals. Look at any Apple, Google, or Microsoft conference presentation. They tell you what's new, what price it is, when it's available, and then hype whatever they are working on that isn't quite out yet. Reviews come when product is on the shelves.
 

Pariah

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It's a standard format for product reveals. Look at any Apple, Google, or Microsoft conference presentation. They tell you what's new, what price it is, when it's available, and then hype whatever they are working on that isn't quite out yet. Reviews come when product is on the shelves.

A week in advance? And, none of the companies you listed sell components. What does Google sell that anyone needs benchmarks for? Microsoft and Apple both sell products whose performance is derived from a number of different components, all produced by someone else. Both AMD and NVidia used to paper launch quite frequently, but I can't ever remember NVidia publically announcing a reveal date for a new architecture just to announce they didn't actually have anything ready for release. And even more embarrassing, AMD didn't even have press samples available for reviews. How much of an improvement is AMD going to be able to muster from the drivers in a week? Why don't major review sites have reviews up yet of a card supposedly ready for public release in a week? In recent years NVidia has been quite good at having cards ready the day they are officially announced, with reviews.
 

Borealis7

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i'll be on the sidelines waiting to snag a used GTX980 people will dump after buying a new AMD card

even tough i swore not to buy another 28nm card ever again.
 

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Wasn't interested at all in this new AMD lineup due being rebrands and not as efficient as Maxwell, but the R9 Fury Nano being faster than the R9 290X (putting it closer to at 980), double the perf/watt and its end up being true, it will definitely get my money.
 

Erenhardt

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A week in advance? And, none of the companies you listed sell components. What does Google sell that anyone needs benchmarks for? Microsoft and Apple both sell products whose performance is derived from a number of different components, all produced by someone else. Both AMD and NVidia used to paper launch quite frequently, but I can't ever remember NVidia publically announcing a reveal date for a new architecture just to announce they didn't actually have anything ready for release. And even more embarrassing, AMD didn't even have press samples available for reviews. How much of an improvement is AMD going to be able to muster from the drivers in a week? Why don't major review sites have reviews up yet of a card supposedly ready for public release in a week? In recent years NVidia has been quite good at having cards ready the day they are officially announced, with reviews.

nvidia this, nvidia that... cut it...

Fermi... enough? Not?


a Clown with Pascal GPU with HBM without interposer made entirely out of wood.

Go back to your cave, troll.
 

sze5003

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I'm waiting for reviews but even though I told myself no need to spend $500 or more on a card anymore due to also not playing as many PC games, the fury x looks promising.

I have one 120mm fan hole empty on the top of my case so it should fit fine providing the cooling tubes are long enough to reach from the back of the gpu to the top of the case. It may be a bit cramped in there with everything I have but we will see.
 

guskline

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The Fury X looks great as does the GTX980TI. Since I invested in 2 R9 290s in CF and water cooled and since my highest resolution monitor is 2560 x 1440, getting one of these cards for me would not make sense.

That being said, the next generation highest end single card is likely is be significantly more than my 2 cards combined so that will be my target upgrade.
 

guskline

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So long as they overclock well and when all possible performance has been gotten out of them the Fury X is faster, I will get a pair. Haven't had any AMD cards in a while. The 980ti tops out around 1500 on the best samples, so I have an idea of where the Fury X needs to be with overclocking.

They said the TDP is 275W, but the cooler can handle 500W. That doesn't tell you much though as we need to see how much more the card can handle. No matter how much power you throw at a card, if the chip is tapped out it can't go any higher. One of my Titan X could not budge beyond 1400 even with 1.3V.

Need to see the reviews.

Excellent post by a person who already has a top end rig.

From the very sketchy data I've seen leaked, it looks like at stock the Fury X is back in the Battle with Titan X and the GTX 980 TI and if you really listened to the conference yesterday, either Joe Macri of the other engineer mentioned that the Fiji chip is a beast and a good overclocker.
 

ShintaiDK

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Fury Nano looks like a killer card for ITX systems.

About as killer as GTX970 Mini cards. When aircooled in ITX you want a blower based card. Thats why all these mini type cards fail flat.

The Fury X is almost, if not a better ITX card than the Nano/GTX970Mini.

 
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tential

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About as killer as GTX970 Mini cards. When aircooled in ITX you want a blower based card. Thats why all these mini type cards fail flat.

The Fury X is almost, if not a better ITX card than the Nano/GTX970Mini.

Except the fiji nano is supposedly even faster than the gtx 970 and better perf/watt so not sure why you'd bring up the 970?

Either way I agree it's fiji wce that looks better imo. Doesn't look like there is a better value out there in this lineup fiji wce just gives you so much for the price imo
 

ShintaiDK

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Except the fiji nano is supposedly even faster than the gtx 970 and better perf/watt so not sure why you'd bring up the 970?

Either way I agree it's fiji wce that looks better imo. Doesn't look like there is a better value out there in this lineup fiji wce just gives you so much for the price imo

We still need to see benches and actual power consumption outside the 175W "typical power". But the point that its a killer card for ITX is just false. Everyone that owns ITX (should) knows this. Dumping heat inside the case is just bad in small cases.
 

Despoiler

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A week in advance? And, none of the companies you listed sell components. What does Google sell that anyone needs benchmarks for? Microsoft and Apple both sell products whose performance is derived from a number of different components, all produced by someone else. Both AMD and NVidia used to paper launch quite frequently, but I can't ever remember NVidia publically announcing a reveal date for a new architecture just to announce they didn't actually have anything ready for release. And even more embarrassing, AMD didn't even have press samples available for reviews. How much of an improvement is AMD going to be able to muster from the drivers in a week? Why don't major review sites have reviews up yet of a card supposedly ready for public release in a week? In recent years NVidia has been quite good at having cards ready the day they are officially announced, with reviews.

Straight trolling? That's a bold move Cotton. All of those companies have branded hardware and software products. iPhone, iPad, Mac, OSX, Google's Nexus phones and tablets, new Android versions, MS Surface, Windows Phone, XB1, new Windows versions, etc. Do you actually think Apple, MS, and Google have little understanding of the products they design? Who produces or assembles the final product is immaterial. That's the way the world works.

Why would AMD have press samples at a product launch? My point that you missed is that AMD's formatting is entirely inline with normal corporate practices. The GPU review industry has been a deviation from that format. Arguing that AMD must conform to whatever format Nvidia chooses is just silly.
 
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Headfoot

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Fury X is the best Mini ITX card. Small size, dumps 100% of the heat out of the case while staying cool and quiet. At least stock. Water cooling has always been the best Mini ITX cooling provided you have a slot to use for it.

Its only logical to use the back slot for the biggest power consuming part, GPU, as opposed to water cooling the CPU which uses quite a bit less power (provided you went Intel...)
 

stahlhart

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nvidia this, nvidia that... cut it...

Fermi... enough? Not?


a Clown with Pascal GPU with HBM without interposer made entirely out of wood.

Go back to your cave, troll.

No, you go back to yours.
-- stahlhart
 

AnandThenMan

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This looks like a toy compared to Nano, AMD really did a great job on the design and materials. I also expect Nano to be quite a bit faster than this 970 and it has full speed (and I mean speed) 4GB of memory. Will be putting one in my HTPC box assuming the products pans out.
 

IEC

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If the "Captain Jack" benchmarks are accurate the Nano is going to be a tier above the 980 in performance, so comparisons to a GTX 970 aren't exactly helpful.
 

Harrod

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I will probably get one, I am going to sell one of my 7970's on ebay, and give the other one to my nephew.
 

Gikaseixas

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We still need to see benches and actual power consumption outside the 175W "typical power". But the point that its a killer card for ITX is just false
So you tell people to wait for reviews when the subject is pro AMD...

GTA V even passes 4GB without AA in 4K.
Both GTA V and Shadows of Mordor passes 4GB with AA on at 1440p.
...But you're more than happy to scream that 4GB isn't enough

This forum is really something
 

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So long as they overclock well and when all possible performance has been gotten out of them the Fury X is faster, I will get a pair. Haven't had any AMD cards in a while. The 980ti tops out around 1500 on the best samples, so I have an idea of where the Fury X needs to be with overclocking.

They said the TDP is 275W, but the cooler can handle 500W. That doesn't tell you much though as we need to see how much more the card can handle. No matter how much power you throw at a card, if the chip is tapped out it can't go any higher. One of my Titan X could not budge beyond 1400 even with 1.3V.

Need to see the reviews.

This ^100000x. AMD has, in the past, clocked their high end halo part beyond the sweet spot of perf/w to be more competitive at stock speeds. Aftermarket 980 TI's are getting 30% overclocks vs. reference 980 speeds with decent (but not ultra-quiet) noise levels and temps. It is a tough order to keep up with that, but at least AMD strapped Fury with the cooling capable of easily handling it.

Disclaimer: I'm not interested in Fury or 980 TI.
 
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