AMD Duron 1800 Applebred OEM - $39.00 free ship @ Chiefvalue.com

[tcsenter]

AMD Duron 1.8 Applebred 266MHz FSB Socket A Processor - $39.00 free ship (limit 20)

See a 1.6GHz Duron face-off against Intel Celeron up to 2.6GHz:

Budget CPU Shootout: Clash of the 'rons

 

[cremefilled]

That's an old Celeron in the comparison. The new Celeron-D is much more competitive, and if overclocked (can usually make it to at least 3.3 GHz), it would handily beat it.

The Sempron 2400+ is $48 at Microcenter. I think that's a better buy than this Applebred -- bigger cache, faster FSB, probably better overclocking headroom.

But this is still a good price! The Applebred never got its due. For people who don't follow the market, this is a "true" 1.8 GHz, not AMD's performance rating.

 

[tcsenter]

That's an old Celeron in the comparison.

And that's the old Duron in the comparison. Apples to Apples.

The new Celeron-D is much more competitive, and if overclocked (can usually make it to at least 3.3 GHz), it would handily beat it.

The Celeron D can hold its own with all Athlon XP models below 2700+...

Intel Celeron D: New, Improved & Exceeds Expectations

AMD Sempron: A Fresh Take on Budget Computing

 

[Lithan]

Wow. I'd look at some other reviews. That one seems to be leaning a bit in intel's favor in their choice of benches. That said, both will improve leaps and bounds with overclocking due to their low default FSB.

 

[pxc]

Originally posted by: tcsenter

That's an old Celeron in the comparison.

And that's the old Duron in the comparison. Apples to Apples.

That "old" Duron is also the newest Duron. All of the 1.4GHz+ Durons are just Tbred-A (1.4-1.6GHz) or Tbred-B (1.6-1.8GHz) cores with 3/4 of the L2 cache disabled. There's no performance difference between Tbred-A and Tbred-B cores at the same speed, just differences in voltage and overclockability.

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Tbred-B core Durons are great for the price. I like the 1.6GHz version better since it would do an almost certain 333MHz FSB overclock (2GHz). I recently upgraded a Tbred-A core Duron 1.5GHz @ 1.8GHz that was running for almost 2 years for my nephew (replaced with a Celeron D @ 3.3GHz) and that Duron system is now working as a server. It's still a pretty decent speed for the age of it.

 

[Sentinel]

I like the heartyness of the duron, would like to find something price-performance equal

 

[timswim78]

Seems like a great deal to me!

 

[tomatom]

Tiger Direct has the Duron 1.8 for $20 after $30 rebate .

< sigh , T-D & rebates are a gamble >

 

[Netopia]

Something that I'm surprized that no one mentioned. These applebreds run WAY cool because of still having the surface area of 512KB cache but only having 128KB of it enabled. I'm running one that even stressed rarely hits 100F ( ~37/38 C).

Joe

 

[tcsenter]

Something that I'm surprized that no one mentioned. These applebreds run WAY cool because of still having the surface area of 512KB cache but only having 128KB of it enabled.

You're thinking of Thorton. Applebred is based on T-Bred core, which is apparent by the 'shorter' die vs. the 'longer' die of Barton/Thorton.

There were Durons on which the remaining cache could be enabled, IIRC via L Bridge, but I don't remember any specifics.

 

[Brian23]

These are the Durons that can have their cache enabled. I just ordered one last week. It should be here monday. I plan on enabling the cache and seeing how awesome this chip really is!

 

[Netopia]

Originally posted by: tcsenter

Something that I'm surprized that no one mentioned. These applebreds run WAY cool because of still having the surface area of 512KB cache but only having 128KB of it enabled.

You're thinking of Thorton. Applebred is based on T-Bred core, which is apparent by the 'shorter' die vs. the 'longer' die of Barton/Thorton.

There were Durons on which the remaining cache could be enabled, IIRC via L Bridge, but I don't remember any specifics.

I'm a little confused now, as I purchased a 1600 Applebred and an 1800 Applebred, and both have long cores.

Joe

 

[Netopia]

Even weirder, CPU-z says that one of them has got 256KB of L2!

This is on an early KT-266 mobo and it also shows it as having a 13x multiplier which also can't be right.

I might (when I've a chance) have to pull that machine apart and get the actual number of off the CPU.

 

[Replay]

Superlocked Duron from Newegg a few months ago. Multiplier adjustment only possible after converting it to a "mobile" duron. Extra cache could not be unlocked. At 2200 MHz the game performance is akin to a 2200XP.

 

[tcsenter]

I'm a little confused now, as I purchased a 1600 Applebred and an 1800 Applebred, and both have long cores

'Longer' relative to what, Palomino or Thoroughbred?

I have Sempron 3000+ (Barton), XP2000+ (T-Bred), and Duron 1800 in front of me. The Duron 1800 is a match for the T-Bred core size. See:

How to ascertain your AMD CPU type

Apple-bred
Thorough-bred

 

[Netopia]

Interesting... I bought these as Applebred's from NewEgg when they first came out, but from the pictures it would appear that what I actually have are Thorntons! And I bought them on two different orders! Very weird... and here I've always thought that the strange things that CPU-z was reporting were due to the old KT-266 Chipset reading things wrong!

 

[Netopia]

Ok.. this is very bizarre.

The Durons are in fact Durons (applebreds) (dhd1600lv1c) but CPU-z reports them as having 256KB L2 cache!

Weird.

Joe

 

[tcsenter]

Try H-Oda's WCPUID or Everest Home Edition.

 

[KristopherKubicki]

ChiefValue is awesome - they are owned by NewEgg's owners. But if you don't trust them yet...

ZZF has the chip for $40 shipped here:

http://labs.anandtech.com/search.php?q=duron+1.8

Kristopher

 

[kof]

This is a very good price, and it's supposed to be an easy drop in on the el-cheopo ECS K7S5a m/b, which I have an old one of.
Thanks OP

 

[ww4397]

Originally posted by: Brian23
These are the Durons that can have their cache enabled. I just ordered one last week. It should be here monday. I plan on enabling the cache and seeing how awesome this chip really is!

Any links on how to accomplish this little hack?

Thanks.

 

[Samus]

I've never had trouble overclocking applebred/thoroughbreds well beyond 2GHz. I have a duron 1.6 running at 2.4GHz @ 200mhz fsb right now. Obviously my voltage is 1.85 and the cpu hovers around 53c at idle but never exceeds 60c after burning with prime95.

Using a coolermaster AeroFlow(?) blower cooler, somewhere in the middle speed range.

 

[TestGuyCT]

This CPU is also available at Global Computer Supplies:

Link

However, be aware that Global Computer is part of the TD family as far as I know...

 

[QSnexus]

That is one downright cheap cpu.

 

[MarlboroJones]

Could I use DDR400 Kingston with this? (I have a couple a sticks laying around.) And, what would be an inexpensive board to OC (I couldn't find the ECS noted earlier)? Thanks.

(Was also gonna say Global Computer = Tiger Direct, but I see you stated that, Test Guy CT)