AMD E450 degraded performance

[danirich26]

Hi all, i know i'm new here but i really wanted to know something.
I have a Lenovo Ideapad S205 laptop, it is specced with
-AMD E450 APU
-8GB RAM
-500GB HDD
-Radeon 6320
When i first got the laptop, it ran at a blistering speed, it would stream a full 1080p YouTube video without any stutter or latency at all, the fan was completely silent (unless under heavy stress) Recently, i have started playing more games on it, such as MW2 + 3. I tried last night to stream a 1080p video and it stuttered, i mean really bad, it might as well have been a slideshow! 720p wasn't much better! So my question is, has my playing games in some way degraded to performance of the cpu, or is this a common issue affecting all users of the E450? By the way, te games still run without fault at 30fps+ on high
Thanks!

 

[cebalrai]

Hi all, i know i'm new here but i really wanted to know something.
I have a Lenovo Ideapad S205 laptop, it is specced with
-AMD E450 APU
-8GB RAM
-500GB HDD
-Radeon 6320
When i first got the laptop, it ran at a blistering speed, it would stream a full 1080p YouTube video without any stutter or latency at all, the fan was completely silent (unless under heavy stress) Recently, i have started playing more games on it, such as MW2 + 3. I tried last night to stream a 1080p video and it stuttered, i mean really bad, it might as well have been a slideshow! 720p wasn't much better! So my question is, has my playing games in some way degraded to performance of the cpu, or is this a common issue affecting all users of the E450? By the way, te games still run without fault at 30fps+ on high
Thanks!

Sounds like something go screwed up with gpu acceleration perhaps.

 

[Christobevii3]

Check if flash player/browser has gpu settings on

 

[Arkadrel]

Could be bloatware....

when windows is freshly installed ,its not cluttered with tons of programs and regedit looks nice and clean, after tons of usage thats no longer true and windows is slower. Esp if your running more stuff in background (than what you compaired it too).

 

[Schmide]

Maybe try drivers 12.4? I've seen a few computers that don't like video acceleration in 12.6.

 

[danirich26]

Sounds like something go screwed up with gpu acceleration perhaps.

Check if flash player/browser has gpu settings on

Could be bloatware....

when windows is freshly installed ,its not cluttered with tons of programs and regedit looks nice and clean, after tons of usage thats no longer true and windows is slower. Esp if your running more stuff in background (than what you compaired it too).

Thanks all for the speedy replies! I have checked the chrome settings area, no information in hardware acceleration settings :/
@Arkadrel the registry is clean, i have about 80% of my HDD empty, i also checked the registry seems to be clean, it's a shame cos the laptop is only 3 months old :/ i've also looked in AMD vision control center... Nothing there either!

 

[OBLAMA2009]

things like this are why i would never go with amd. why would you buy a laptop with that chip in the first place. its much slower than say a pentium notebook costing the same.

 

[danirich26]

things like this are why i would never go with amd. why would you buy a laptop with that chip in the first place. its much slower than say a pentium notebook costing the same.

Personally, for me, I wanted something that could run relatively fast, had a small screen so was portable, but also had dedicated graphics (the Radeon 6320m is in the discreet graphics class) so the logical solution for me was the E450!

 

[Selenium_Glow]

Well, try to disable all power saving modes on the laptop. Check if the stuttering problem goes away.

If that doesn't work.... try this. Uninstall all games, reinstall/reset graphic driver settings, and see if the stuttering goes. Sometimes installing games changes some acceleration profiles/settings which may cause this. If this works, reinstall one game, and see if there are any changes to the control center settings. If there are no changes, repeat this step unless the video starts stuttering or settings change.

These are the immediate steps I can think of right now. I'll post here if I get more ideas...

 

[ShintaiDK]

Try run GPU-Z and see whats the GPU clocks are. Might be throttled if it aint a software related issue.

 

[danirich26]

Well, try to disable all power saving modes on the laptop. Check if the stuttering problem goes away.

If that doesn't work.... try this. Uninstall all games, reinstall/reset graphic driver settings, and see if the stuttering goes. Sometimes installing games changes some acceleration profiles/settings which may cause this. If this works, reinstall one game, and see if there are any changes to the control center settings. If there are no changes, repeat this step unless the video starts stuttering or settings change.

These are the immediate steps I can think of right now. I'll post here if I get more ideas...

I tried that! I think it might be a driver update issue. i'm going to roll back the driver see if that helps at all! I also have it in performance mode rather than battery saver

Try run GPU-Z and see whats the GPU clocks are. Might be throttled if it aint a software related issue.

The clocks are 600MHz right now, i always have the laptop in gaming mode aswell so that should give a boost in performance!

 

[Christobevii3]

Did you right click on a flash player video and look at the settings?

 

[Selenium_Glow]

I tried that! I think it might be a driver update issue. i'm going to roll back the driver see if that helps at all! I also have it in performance mode rather than battery saver



The clocks are 600MHz right now, i always have the laptop in gaming mode aswell so that should give a boost in performance!

Well, the third idea that came to my mind was this. Did you experience this stuttering problem after you installed some codec pack (like KLite, CCCP)? As the games work without problems and the only issue is with HD playback, it could be possible that the codecs on your system aren't working as they should.

To test this out, try playing a 1080p/720p file from hard disk. Does it stutter as well?

 

[ShintaiDK]

There is also a flash issue with Chrome/FF. So make sure you really use the latest.

Check version here:
http://www.adobe.com/software/flash/about/

 

[sm625]

Picture some Intel executive out on the golf course with some adobe executive.

The Intel guy says "No one wants to buy a new computer because their old one works just fine. Maybe if someone bloated up flash player, people would get mad that their youtubes are clogging up. And then they'd go out and buy a new computer with a new intel chip so that it can run their youtubes."

AMD bobcat is a victim of this, because it was designed to be "barely enough". But in the PC world of executives colluding on golf courses, "barely enough" quickly becomes "not enough".

 

[ShintaiDK]

Picture some Intel executive out on the golf course with some adobe executive.

The Intel guy says "No one wants to buy a new computer because their old one works just fine. Maybe if someone bloated up flash player, people would get mad that their youtubes are clogging up. And then they'd go out and buy a new computer with a new intel chip so that it can run their youtubes."

AMD bobcat is a victim of this, because it was designed to be "barely enough". But in the PC world of executives colluding on golf courses, "barely enough" quickly becomes "not enough".

:thumbsdown:

Also the problem never affected IE. Only Chrome and FF.

 

[sm625]

:thumbsdown:

Also the problem never affected IE. Only Chrome and FF.

Maybe for you. For me netflix videos drop frames in every browser now. Every possible setting drops frames. I have a penryn CULV notebook. Very similar to bobcat. It played netflix and youtube fine for 2 years. I fully expect it to be completely unwatchable given a few more "revisions" to flash and silverlight. (Intel executives golf with more than just adobe you know!)

 

[AtenRa]

(Intel executives golf with more than just adobe you know!)

lol ehehehe

Im sure they are not the only ones

 

[Dman8777]

...the Radeon 6320m is in the discreet graphics class ...

That's really just a marketing gimmick at this point. The integrated graphics in the Brazos chips is certainly a lot better than what used to pass for integrated graphics but these days it's pretty low on the performance charts. IIRC Brazos graphics are somewhere in between Intel's HD 2000 and 3000 options.

 

[happysmiles]

probably time to format!

 

[OBLAMA2009]

That's really just a marketing gimmick at this point. The integrated graphics in the Brazos chips is certainly a lot better than what used to pass for integrated graphics but these days it's pretty low on the performance charts. IIRC Brazos graphics are somewhere in between Intel's HD 2000 and 3000 options.

nevermind about graphics, e series chips are just plain SLOW, not anywhere near comparable to an intel chip of the same price

 

[ctsoth]

nevermind about graphics, e series chips are just plain SLOW, not anywhere near comparable to an intel chip of the same price

You are aware that brazos competes with ...atom... right?

 

[pantsaregood]

Brazos and Atom have their place. They may both be slow, but they're definitely adequate for the average user.

AMD has nothing but Brazos in the <$50/unit range. Intel has the Celeron G460 at $36, but it can't compete with Atom's TDP.

Brazos and Atom do show that hardware is advancing much faster than software. They're both slower than a 3.4 GHz Pentium 4 Prescott, yet they can manage fine in general use. Ten years ago, that wasn't the case. You can pretty easily run Windows 7 on any system from 2001 or later. Trying to put Windows XP on a system from 1995 would usually end poorly. Putting Vista on a computer from 1997 would probably blow up your home.

 

[OBLAMA2009]

You are aware that brazos competes with ...atom... right?

yes things like c-60 (?) which is insanely slow competes with atom but pricewise a lot of amd e450 laptops/desktops seem to be competing with pentium laptops/desktops, which are a lot faster than e450. ive even seen e450s priced at $450. it doesnt make any sense at all. i go in office depot and see stupid stuff like this:

http://www.officedepot.com/a/product...ptop-Computer/

and this:

http://www.officedepot.com/a/product...-156-Notebook/

and this:

http://www.officedepot.com/a/product...Computer-With/

 

[cantholdanymore]

Check registry problems with CCleaner
Check for virus, rootkits (AVG can detect rootkits but may not be able to delete them)
Run HDD defrag (do you have enough free space in the HDD?)
If nothing works then it may be time for fresh win install.