Did you miss the part where i have repeated twice that OEMs including Microsoft offer Bulldozer systems too? Fine, i have just repeated it the third time. OEMs offering something is not particularly interesting. Baidu using it is interesting, but they are clearly going for efficiency points here and that's great (for AMD). But does not address the Intel's nitpick at nature of Naples, like you think it does.
Why, i could. I could say that every major OEM offered and/or used Pentium 4 Xeons and that obviously makes Pentium 4 a great server CPU.
I have not seen you once name drop the Pentium 4 in any Intel thread in the last year,yet you seem to desperate to keep talking about Bulldozer which was launched six years ago in this thread when they are not related,and you seem desperate to push the conversation towards that.
This is the only Epyc thread on a few big tech forums I have had a quick glance where people are trying to keep on name dropping Bulldozer.
Its only not interesting for you since you can deflect all you when all the major server companies are offering Epyc based products from launch and multiple large companies have already committed to the product meaning they have done their own tests - it seems you as some gamer on a tech forum apparently knows more about Epyc than the combined forces of Dell EMC, HPE, Supermicro,Tyan and
Microsoft,
Samsung,
Baidu,
1&1 and Dropbox.
You are just being disingenuous trying to even mention Bulldozer in this thread especially when it couldn't compete on chip size,scaleability,power consumption,or even performance in many metrics and the Ryzen chips do. But I also remember when forum experts like you said AMD would not get any traction with the Athlon 64 either due to XYZ reasons even when we saw OEMs start offering products and when companies said they were buying them.
Epyc will give AMD a decent increase in server share which will annoy many PC gamers,and yes Intel will still outsell them,but not for any of the reasons that I hear any of you mention yet,which is kind of telling.