AMD failure rate is higher than Nvidia's

[sushiwarrior]

GTX260 died on me. My 7950 is fine so far for what that's worth. I would doubt any failure rates are dependent on Nvidia/ATI, but rather EVGA vs. Sapphire for example. Since EVGA sells most of the Nvidia cards and are an excellent manufacturer who never cheaps out, they're likely to have a lower failure rate overall.

 

[Jhatfie]

I've bought a lot of cards through the years, only ones I recall failing was two back to back EVGA GTX 260's were DOA years ago and later, the GTX460 I gave my brother died after about a year of heavy use. No AMD/ATI card failures thus far.

 

[ShintaiDK]

hardware.fr got a list they update now and then:
http://www.hardware.fr/articles/893-5/cartes-graphiques.html

 

[Abwx]

OP just for giggles search for NVidia bumpgate and see what you find.

My two sisters had laptop with thoses crappy GFX
wich failed , well , 56 weeks afer purchase , that is
a month after the legal warranty ended but they
got them replaced once they told the store responsible
to deal the issue with my third sister , a lawyer ,
"get the ones you want on the shelves" was the rapid
answer of a seemingly aware vendor....

Theses chips failed by the dozen millions and screwed
millions unaware users resulting in billions losses at the
expense of consumers , heck ; Nvidia was fully aware
that their chips were rubbish but kept selling them
through massive rebates....

 

[dualsmp]

D:

 

[pipm1]

The only graphics card I've had fail is an XFX nVidia 6800, my Gigabyte Radeon 4650 that replaced it is still going strong.

 

[f1sherman]

hardware.fr got a list they update now and then:
http://www.hardware.fr/articles/893-5/cartes-graphiques.html

Excellent link. Thanks!

WTH happened with Sapphire :hmm:

 

[nOOky]

I've had an ATI 9800 PRO die on me and a 6800 Ultra. I have a mobile 9800M that I fully expect to have die on me from overheating, but it keeps going.

Given two different brands with two different product lines it's a given that one will have more failures that the other. I would not personally let the failure rates of either AMD or nvidia sway my decision when purchasing. I worry more about vendor, warranty, and their reputation.

 

[tigersty1e]

lol

what a coincidence. this thread created on same day as amd new card


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[magomago]

I'd actually be more interested in what they mean by failure rate, and if they sorted it by the OEM vs nvidia/amd.

Is it the actual chip dieing? Or is it a different chip (memory?) going corrupt? Or is it the assembly process and solder is cracking, etc. etc. Not all failures alike, and some can be attributed to better manufacturers than others.

Anyways the only card to die on me has been a 6800GT. But I almost exclusively have nVidia.

That said, if I was running the Quality organization at a manufacturing facility putting together Nvidia or AMD graphics cards I would not tolerate those kinds of failure rates; their total Quality Costs must be very high.

 

[Teizo]

lol

what a coincidence. this thread created on same day as amd new card


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Just as odd as that 780 GTX buyer's remorse thread by a poster with one post on an account created Oct. 2013 I reckon.

 

[Nintendesert]

Just as odd as that 780 GTX buyer's remorse thread by a poster with one post on an account created Oct. 2013 I reckon.

Yeah, one is related to buyers remorse after seeing the price and performance of the new card and another is a repost of a previous troll thread. Hmmm, very odd indeed!

 

[Teizo]

Yeah, one is related to buyers remorse after seeing the price and performance of the new card and another is a repost of a previous troll thread. Hmmm, very odd indeed!

You actually think that is a legitimate thread? One post and gone? I seriously doubt someone bought a 780 just a few days ago without prior knowledge that AMD was about to come out with a new card. And, given the fact that overclocked 780s are faster than 290X's...which everyone buys over reference...there is nothing to feel 'remorseful' over considering it has a much better cooler and runs quieter, cooler, and takes less power as well. He may be able to work out a sales rebate though since Nvidia should be dropping the price in the next 30 days.

Anyway, this is way off topic in relation to the thread and I don't really want to bump a call out thread like this again.

 

[Erazor51]

2 failed Nvidia cards
1 failed ATI card

 

[brandonb]

I've had an ATI 9700 fail on me (artifacts out of the box). Sapphire brand. Returned, replacement worked fine.

I've had an AMD HD4350 (for HTPC) fail after about 2 years. It was a passive cooling unit and I think it overheated eventually from being dusty. I don't know the brand anymore.

A friend of mine had their XFX AMD HD 6970 actually explode after powering it up the first time. A flash and pop, and smoke. Returned and replacement worked fine.

My nephew had his Nvidia card break after a certain amount of time. Don't know of the make/model/brand.

That's all the failures I'm aware of. And that is over the course of 20 years building and probably 100 video cards. The failure rate is pretty low. But ATI/AMD has had more problems out of my small sample size. Most cards were just retired from old age.

 

[thilanliyan]

No failed cards. Did kill a 6950 due to my own stupidity once!

 

[exar333]

Guys, anecdotal evidence doesn't prove or refute the original story. The information from Puget systems is either factual, and a rather large sample size, or completely fabricated.

Another question is whether the sample size here is representative of the larger GPU population. IMHO that's impossible to really know. AMD could be skewed with cheap GPUs, etc. Too many variables to really pull any conclusions.

Not to be harsh, but those posting 'I never had an AMD card fail, this this article is FUD' are idiots. That proves nothing.

I have owned both AMD and NV cards back to '99, and none have failed. Even so, that means NOTHING against this article.

Warning issued for inflammatory language.
-- stahlhart

 

[BrightCandle]

I am surprised they have such a high failure rate for graphics cards out of the box from both camps. This does suggest there is a QA problem, because I bet CPUs have a lot lower failure rates than that.

The difference in failure rates is quite notable but I would like to see data from the manufacturers on this for their products.

 

[exar333]

I'd actually be more interested in what they mean by failure rate, and if they sorted it by the OEM vs nvidia/amd.

Is it the actual chip dieing? Or is it a different chip (memory?) going corrupt? Or is it the assembly process and solder is cracking, etc. etc. Not all failures alike, and some can be attributed to better manufacturers than others.

Anyways the only card to die on me has been a 6800GT. But I almost exclusively have nVidia.

That said, if I was running the Quality organization at a manufacturing facility putting together Nvidia or AMD graphics cards I would not tolerate those kinds of failure rates; their total Quality Costs must be very high.

This.

For this to be meaningful, we need the numbers broken down to things like ASP, amount of time owned, return rate, failure rate, others?

I would like to know what 'failure' really means. Does this mean it was returned and validated to be 'bad', or just received and the company took the user's word for it?

We need a LOT more information to pull observations from this article. This is obviously not scientific, so take it with a grain of salt.

 

[SlowSpyder]

One failed BFG 6800n/u... and look where that got BFG!

I did unlock the pipes and overclock it, though, so I don't really consider it a failed card as much as a killed card. That was the only card I've ever had die on me, ATI/AMD or Nvidia based.

 

[bystander36]

I've had failures on both sides. A few each over the years. I honestly couldn't tell you what is worse. Only a study would likely result in meaningful data.

 

[Techhog]

Why are we discussing an article devoid of background information again?

 

[Phynaz]

Not to be harsh, but those posting 'I never had an AMD card fail, this this article is FUD' are idiots. That proves nothing.

I don't see a single post in this thread where anyone has said this.

 

[thilanliyan]

I am surprised they have such a high failure rate for graphics cards out of the box from both camps. This does suggest there is a QA problem, because I bet CPUs have a lot lower failure rates than that.

In all likelihood it isn't the GPU itself that has failed, but a component on the video card. A video card has way more components to fail than a CPU package, so I'm not surprised that there are more video card failures.

 

[BallaTheFeared]

I've killed a few Nv cards, never an AMD card though (because it doesn't have the fortitude to push itself that far).

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