AMD FX-6300 6 Core Black Edition Processor

[PhIlLy ChEeSe]

Where is the op by the way? Another drive by?

Yup
The site is being spammed with pointless and countless amounts of BS it aint even funny. Not sure why I bother!!!

 

[AtenRa]

Where is that data on DX12 that shows it narrows the gap?

 

[frozentundra123456]

Getting off topic, but I said there was data on Mantle. Still waiting for DX12 benchmarks.

It *is* highly likely DX12 will make slower processors more competitive. Point is I dont think it is fair for a poster to call out another poster saying he "knows damn well" something that has not even been tested yet.

 

[frozentundra123456]

Yup
The site is being spammed with pointless and countless amounts of BS it aint even funny. Not sure why I bother!!!

Agreed. I really have to stop getting involved in these pointless and repetitive arguments. The VC & G is the worst right now.

 

[ShintaiDK]

The "problem" with lower overhead as seen before is tt will just be reused on something else. Developers are not letting it go to waste. Same applies here. Hence its a moving goalpost the FX will never catch.

 

[AtenRa]

Getting off topic, but I said there was data on Mantle.

My bad, missed that

 

[xthetenth]

The "problem" with lower overhead as seen before is tt will just be reused on something else. Developers are not letting it go to waste. Same applies here. Hence its a moving goalpost the FX will never catch.

But will that use be part of an indivisible thread as before? That's the question with the potential for an interesting answer.

Not that it matters too much, AMD looks to be working on a modern architecture.

 

[cytg111]

I guess you could get information about the what 5 to 10 games that support mantle. Where is that data on DX12 that shows it narrows the gap? Shintai is right, actually. It is always something just over the horizon that will make AMD the go to gaming processor. Remember the thread about the eurogamer article when the latest consoles came out, about how "future proof" the FX would be? Well, it is so future proof that is is being EOLd for Zen apparently. DX 12 should in fact help slower, less efficient processors, but we have no specific information yet. So we dont "know damn well" anything.

Correct, we have close to no data on dx12, that is an assumption, an assumption and a prediction you can take to the bank, - and i'll give you better odds than "there will be no apu in the consoles". (In Shintais own words, mantle is obsolete by dx12, right?)
And while we can agree AMD has been stumbling for some time, what is the relevance here? He is here to stir * up, nothing more nothing less. (and doing so with ill constructed arguments). almost like panicking, like he hasnt had his fill of trolling "amd fans" for today (sad part, there really are very few 'amd fans' here, it is 99% in his own head). - Guess its better than kicking the dog right.

 

[TheELF]

Getting off topic, but I said there was data on Mantle. Still waiting for DX12 benchmarks.

It *is* highly likely DX12 will make slower processors more competitive. Point is I dont think it is fair for a poster to call out another poster saying he "knows damn well" something that has not even been tested yet.

The benefits will be virtually the same,they already did preliminary tests.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/8388/intel-demonstrates-direct3d-12-performance-and-power-improvements

The first two pictures show what multicore people hope for, all cores being used to get more draw calls,the third is showing what we already saw happening in reality in games like battlefield 4, objects and draw calls stay the same and cpu usage (for the graphics driver thread) goes down allowing the percentage of this thread to be spread to the remaining cores,the more cores you have the bigger the chances that this driver thread was already running on a core all by itself.

Right side DX11 ~14% driver thread, left side no driver thread,~14% combined higher usage on the remaining threads.

 

[Phynaz]

Agreed. I really have to stop getting involved in these pointless and repetitive arguments. The VC & G is the worst right now.

Drive by from a new reg and the usual suspects pulling out the same charts as every other thread in this forum. Do you really think it's coincidence?

As the saying goes "Follow the money".

 

[soccerballtux]

From the last sentence.
FX spread its wings when game logic is spread across all cores. Then it is hold only on the leash of DX11 rendering overhead. DX12 Should release the leash and fx should run full tilt across all cores without bottlenecking on a rendering thread.

Stating it is hopeless, is the same as sying dx12 will not deliver, or game engine developers will back-paddle and make their engines single-threaded again.

wow. it's pretty clear my $100 8310 was the best buy

 

[soccerballtux]

Lets fast forward to engine patches and 2015. What happens....

BOOOM! Where is that FX series again? Expensive 140W/220W FX CPUs being beaten by a cheap 53W i3. And an 4 year old Sandy Bridge quad is still out of reach for AMD. You know, the one sold before the FX8150 that the trusty buyers still wait on to perform. Oh and did I mention the 2500K was cheaper?

it's more likely they received some payouts from Intel

 

[DrMrLordX]

Drive by from a new reg and the usual suspects pulling out the same charts as every other thread in this forum. Do you really think it's coincidence?

As the saying goes "Follow the money".

Actually, if you follow the OP's post history (all 5 of them), it looks like he's an Aussie speccing out an AMD system. Considering how much he is looking to spend on the thing, he'd be wise just to pay out $30 extra and get an 8320E and be done with it. All the rest of this bickering seems unnecessary.

 

[frozentundra123456]

@ soccerballtux: Naw, AMD paid them off for the first test. Without any proof, one unfounded accusation is just as valid as another.

Seriously though, I dont think game.gpu is an intel and nVidia shill site, since for many months they had ads for AMD gpus and cpus on their front page. The gpus were also different, and the intel quad cpus in the BF4 bench you cited were 2 generations old.

 

[Phynaz]

it's more likely they received some payouts from Intel

That's beneath you.

 

[Puffnstuff]

The last time that amd had it going on was when they released the slot a athlon and actually had better performance than intel. I use both amd and intel platforms, however when it comes to sheer performance I always build intel. If amd pulls a rabbit out of its hat and gives us a performance processor then I might go back for my own system but until then intel gets the job.

 

[IntoxicatedPuma]

Just a quick message to the OP......

I recently purchased an FX6300 and Athlon 860k out of pure boredom because I have only built Intel builds (2500k - 3450S - 3770k - E3 1230 v2 - i5 4590) in the last few years because I'd always disregarded AMD as being junk. The 860k ran very hot and I've read from others this is normal, but it was a bit disappointing. The FX6300 really impressed me, and for the price it was very nice.

The FX6300 so far has seemed very solid. Yes, lots of benchmarks - like the one above - will show that it can only run at 90 FPS average and an i5 is 150 FPS, so clearly the i5 is faster, but........Can you tell the difference? If you can't - then who cares? both my i5 4590 and FX6300 builds are running GTX 960's, and in FarCry 4, GTA V, i can't tell which machine I'm on unless I go look. I could probably go run Fraps and check the FPS but even when I see the number I can't really tell a difference.

One place I could tell a difference is video rendering time, so if you plan on doing much work......Intel might be better. FX6300 is a great processor for the price, I'm very impressed and happy with mine.
I also purchased a Pentium G3258 recently. The G3258 is also very fun but in GTA V and Far Cry 4 its very limited. The G3258 is amazing on older games, i mean absolutely amazing (at 4.5ghz).

 

[Justinbaileyman]

Yep dont bother with a 860K I have one as well and they are pure crap unless you are on a super tight budget.They over clock really well but run extremely hot and are dog slow compared to the fx6300.Maybe if the OP ever returns he/she may want to look into getting an Intel i3 or a Pentium Anniversary Edition G3258 as I hear they also overclock pretty well and are dirt cheap.But like I said without the OP we really dont know the info we need, to point him or her in the right direction.Like whats your Budget and what Motherboard are you using right now?

 

[mrmt]

it's more likely they received some payouts from Intel

No, it's not. Don't forget that AMD channel is choking with unsold inventory, and they have a lot of written off inventory they still have to sell in the channel for whatever money they can recoup. That's why we are seeing some crazy AMD deals as of lately, as almost any price suits them.

 

[kawi6rr]

You know damn well that mantle/dx12 narrows the gap between a strong and a not so strong CPU in games, going full retard peddling around it like you are doing now is embarrasing, even for you, please stop.
What is it you gain from this? - You need it to get off or something?

Best post I've seen on these forums in a while :thumbsup:

 

[DrMrLordX]

Actually, it's pretty abnormal for an 860k to run hot. What's normal is that it's very difficult to get accurate temp readings on the things, but generally-speaking, you don't get a lot of heat out of them unless you're trying to break 4.5 ghz.

For any game that's limited to 4 or fewer threads, I'd take the 860k in a heartbeat. For games that can and do push more than 4 cores, the 6300 pulls ahead, but at that point, you're better off with an 8320E. The 6300 is in an awkward no-man's land, especially considering how expensive it is right now. I would not bother with one.

mrmt, exactly what products are still choking up the channel? Prices on the FX chips are up across the board. Even the old 8320s and 8350s are at elevated prices, which is a joke. At least the 8320E and 8370E prices seem stable . . .

 

[Justinbaileyman]

Yep original FX cpu prices seem to be a bit to high right now. wonder why that is? the 8320e and 8370e both jumped up in price between $15 and $25 bucks at newegg. I swear that place price gouges people.

 

[loccothan]

What are peoples thoughts on the MD FX-6300 6 Core Black Edition Processor.

Read on NewEgg or Amazon -> beneath FX x6 and x8 what people think of it actually one's that have it -> not Intel Trolls (= more $ for Intel, 0 for Troll thats business)

Everybody knows about: FX one thing -> its 5 star CPU's in user revievs, also no sky-rocket power bill

 

[PG]

Actually, it's pretty abnormal for an 860k to run hot. What's normal is that it's very difficult to get accurate temp readings on the things, but generally-speaking, you don't get a lot of heat out of them unless you're trying to break 4.5 ghz.

I agree with this.
I got an 860K and it's not getting all that hot. I did have some trouble lately with my cheap Asus A88XM-A motherboard though. After the latest bios update the voltage under full load was going up to 1.512V, which is insane. This was stock speeds too.
I can shut off turbo, overclock to 4.3 and undervolt it to just under 1.4 and it's stable. It would probably go lower on the voltage, but I'm lazy and haven't spent much time on it.
Maybe those who say their 860K is running hot are experiencing the same odd bios issues I had. It seems best to shut off turbo and manually set the voltages on these things.

 

[Enigmoid]

Actually, it's pretty abnormal for an 860k to run hot. What's normal is that it's very difficult to get accurate temp readings on the things, but generally-speaking, you don't get a lot of heat out of them unless you're trying to break 4.5 ghz.

For any game that's limited to 4 or fewer threads, I'd take the 860k in a heartbeat. For games that can and do push more than 4 cores, the 6300 pulls ahead, but at that point, you're better off with an 8320E. The 6300 is in an awkward no-man's land, especially considering how expensive it is right now. I would not bother with one.

mrmt, exactly what products are still choking up the channel? Prices on the FX chips are up across the board. Even the old 8320s and 8350s are at elevated prices, which is a joke. At least the 8320E and 8370E prices seem stable . . .

3 thread applications will see some benefit on the 6300 due to the removal of the module penalty on the third thread.