AMD FX-6300 6 Core Black Edition Processor

[escrow4]

Read on NewEgg or Amazon -> beneath FX x6 and x8 what people think of it actually one's that have it -> not Intel Trolls (= more $ for Intel, 0 for Troll thats business)

Everybody knows about: FX one thing -> its 5 star CPU's in user revievs, also no sky-rocket power bill

Eh?

http://www.anandtech.com/show/6396/the-vishera-review-amd-fx8350-fx8320-fx6300-and-fx4300-tested/6

FX power consumption is high:

Skylake will just murder anything Piledriver. There is less and less reason to buy an FX in 2015.

 

[AtenRa]

Skylake will just murder anything Piledriver. There is less and less reason to buy an FX in 2015.

Skylake is not in the same price segment as almost 3 year old PileDriver in 2015.

 

[TurtleCrusher]

Eh?

http://www.anandtech.com/show/6396/the-vishera-review-amd-fx8350-fx8320-fx6300-and-fx4300-tested/6

FX power consumption is high:

Skylake will just murder anything Piledriver. There is less and less reason to buy an FX in 2015.

How much will skylake be? How much does an unlocked FX 8-core go for? The lack of logic in this thread is baffling.

 

[IntoxicatedPuma]

I agree with this.
I got an 860K and it's not getting all that hot. I did have some trouble lately with my cheap Asus A88XM-A motherboard though. After the latest bios update the voltage under full load was going up to 1.512V, which is insane. This was stock speeds too.
I can shut off turbo, overclock to 4.3 and undervolt it to just under 1.4 and it's stable. It would probably go lower on the voltage, but I'm lazy and haven't spent much time on it.
Maybe those who say their 860K is running hot are experiencing the same odd bios issues I had. It seems best to shut off turbo and manually set the voltages on these things.

some others mentioned that its hard getting accurate temp readings. AMD overdrive was reporting 20C thermal margin at stock clocks with a Corsair H60 and 6C with a Silverstone AR06. I wasn't able to get mine above 4.2ghz without throttling. I read online that some chips run hotter than others, so likely I got a lousy one. The FX6300 I bought was running about the same temps as my i5 4590 with the same cooler, but at 4.2ghz I was getting the same thermal margin as the 860k at the same temps (but also have 2 more threads!)

But the G3258.....4.5ghz at 70C on a low profile phanteks cooler is nice! But I think I also read the G3258 max ten is not rated in the 90s like the i5 but only 72C

 

[Kuiva maa]

The first two pictures show what multicore people hope for, all cores being used to get more draw calls,the third is showing what we already saw happening in reality in games like battlefield 4, objects and draw calls stay the same and cpu usage (for the graphics driver thread) goes down allowing the percentage of this thread to be spread to the remaining cores,the more cores you have the bigger the chances that this driver thread was already running on a core all by itself.

As we say in game development, coders optimize for artists to come and add more stuff and this circle goes on and on. BF4 obviously is the exact same game regardless of API used so draw calls will be the same. Mantle just doesn't rely on one main thread for rendering, that bottlenecks calls. Should they wanted to add more particles or what have you, mantle could pull the same framerate as DX11 but with a significantly higher draw call amount.

 

[DrMrLordX]

I agree with this.
I got an 860K and it's not getting all that hot. I did have some trouble lately with my cheap Asus A88XM-A motherboard though. After the latest bios update the voltage under full load was going up to 1.512V, which is insane. This was stock speeds too.
I can shut off turbo, overclock to 4.3 and undervolt it to just under 1.4 and it's stable. It would probably go lower on the voltage, but I'm lazy and haven't spent much time on it.
Maybe those who say their 860K is running hot are experiencing the same odd bios issues I had. It seems best to shut off turbo and manually set the voltages on these things.

FM2/FM2+ boards seem to like to overvolt like a sonofagun. Mine does it too, if I let it (which I don't).

3 thread applications will see some benefit on the 6300 due to the removal of the module penalty on the third thread.

There is that, if the scheduler knows what it's doing (which, nowadays, it generally does). Regardless, I'll take Kaveri over Vishera any day of the week for numerous reasons, until the thread count gets high. If someone ran 4 threads on an FX-83xx chip vs an 860k, that FX had better have some extra clockspeed if it expects to pull ahead, even without the Vishera module penalty.

 

[escrow4]

Skylake is not in the same price segment as almost 3 year old PileDriver in 2015.

Who cares about price. You have Intel on the one hand constantly cranking out chips with modern chipsets and on the other hand you have creaky old AMD with dead AM3+ and tired old Piledriver. That is the comparison if you are looking at purchasing a new CPU right now. Why would price even come into it? Intel costs more and you get a lot lot more for your $$$.

 

[AtenRa]

Who cares about price. You have Intel on the one hand constantly cranking out chips with modern chipsets and on the other hand you have creaky old AMD with dead AM3+ and tired old Piledriver. That is the comparison if you are looking at purchasing a new CPU right now. Why would price even come into it? Intel costs more and you get a lot lot more for your $$$.

Really ??

Since you dont care about price, a 3 year old FX8350 completely destroys a Haswell Celeron. The AMD CPU cost more but you get a lot more for your $$$.

 

[Erenhardt]

Who cares about price. You have Intel on the one hand constantly cranking out chips with modern chipsets and on the other hand you have creaky old AMD with dead AM3+ and tired old Piledriver. That is the comparison if you are looking at purchasing a new CPU right now. Why would price even come into it? Intel costs more and you get a lot lot more for your $$$.

If you don't care about the $, feel free to sponsor an upgrade to FX8370E for me.

Shipping info on PM.

Cheers

 

[jji7skyline]

But the G3258.....4.5ghz at 70C on a low profile phanteks cooler is nice! But I think I also read the G3258 max ten is not rated in the 90s like the i5 but only 72C

You're confusing the IHS max temp with the Core max temp. Most Intel CPUs have IHS max temperature ratings in the 70s and a Core max temperature of around 100.

 

[Leyawiin]

Really ??

Since you dont care about price, a 3 year old FX8350 completely destroys a Haswell Celeron. The AMD CPU cost more but you get a lot more for your $$$.

Apples and oranges. When comparing chips that are ostensibly in a similar category (like an FX-8350 vs i5-4690k) he's basically saying its worth an additional $50 for superior performance and efficiency.

 

[Abwx]

Apples and oranges. When comparing chips that are ostensibly in a similar category (like an FX-8350 vs i5-4690k) he's basically saying its worth an additional $50 for superior performance and efficiency.

As said ad nauseam only in games a i5 will have better perfs than a 8350, i dont think that the 4690k is that faster than a 4670k.

http://www.hardware.fr/focus/99/amd-fx-8370e-fx-8-coeurs-95-watts-test.html

 

[AtenRa]

Apples and oranges. When comparing chips that are ostensibly in a similar category (like an FX-8350 vs i5-4690k) he's basically saying its worth an additional $50 for superior performance and efficiency.

We are not talking about FX8350 here but $100 FX6300, there will be no Skylake at that price in 2015.

 

[Enigmoid]

We are not talking about FX8350 here but $100 FX6300, there will be no Skylake at that price in 2015.

What price do you expect skylake 2+2 at then?

 

[AtenRa]

What price do you expect skylake 2+2 at then?

2+2 Skylake is not coming in 2015

 

[escrow4]

Apples and oranges. When comparing chips that are ostensibly in a similar category (like an FX-8350 vs i5-4690k) he's basically saying its worth an additional $50 for superior performance and efficiency.

This. FX is dead. AM3+ is dead. There is only FM3 and Zen maybe. BIG maybe.

 

[AtenRa]

This. FX is dead. AM3+ is dead. There is only FM3 and Zen maybe. BIG maybe.

Haswell is dead, Socket 1150 is dead. There is only Socket 1151 and Skylake, Cannonlake maybe. BIG maybe.

:whiste:

 

[loccothan]

Yet Again they compare x8 FX to x4 Intel maby 4 cores is 8 cores for them?
What kind of logic is this?
Please compare to x8 Intel x99 4.4Ghz -> sky rocket 400W !!! lol

 

[monkeydelmagico]

We are not talking about FX8350 here but $100 FX6300, there will be no Skylake at that price in 2015.

For $100.- I can get a 6300 AND a gigabyte mobo at microcenter. Very compelling at that price point.

 

[svenge]

Haswell is dead, Socket 1150 is dead. There is only Socket 1151 and Skylake, Cannonlake maybe. BIG maybe.

:whiste:

I think that that it's pretty certain that Socket 1151 and Sky/Cannonlake will perform at or above Intel's current Socket 1150 offerings, which is what escrow4 was referring to.

As such, FX/AM3+ has zero chance of catching up (thus being "dead"), and it's far from certain that Zen/FM3 will ever get there (or even to Socket 1156 / Westmere levels).

But since you're the forum's #1 shill, perhaps nuance is a thing lost on you...

 

[frozentundra123456]

For $100.- I can get a 6300 AND a gigabyte mobo at microcenter. Very compelling at that price point.

I have been considering that as well for a gaming build for my grandson, and it is a great deal.

First though, that is a special situation not available to the majority of buyers. Secondly, I think they also have very similar deals on FX8xxx series bundles. At one time, I considered FX6300 close to 8 core FX in gaming, but with the more well threaded games coming out, I think if one goes AMD FX8xxx is the way to go.

 

[Puffnstuff]

You really can't beat the amd cpu's for a budget machine especially when cash it tight. So amd wins for budget minded people and intel wins for performance minded people. When I built my youngest son a pc not so long ago I used an amd 6 core 1090t cpu and it performs quite well.

 

[jji7skyline]

You really can't beat the amd cpu's for a budget machine especially when cash it tight. So amd wins for budget minded people and intel wins for performance minded people. When I built my youngest son a pc not so long ago I used an amd 6 core 1090t cpu and it performs quite well.

For a budget machine I would buy second hand. Budget AMD CPUs aren't worth it. Anyone tried working on a machine with an AM1 chip? Pretty terrible...

 

[SlowSpyder]

Lets fast forward to engine patches and 2015. What happens....

BOOOM! Where is that FX series again? Expensive 140W/220W FX CPUs being beaten by a cheap 53W i3. And an 4 year old Sandy Bridge quad is still out of reach for AMD. You know, the one sold before the FX8150 that the trusty buyers still wait on to perform. Oh and did I mention the 2500K was cheaper?

The boxed FX6300 is on Newegg right now for $99 shipped. The i3 4330 is $137 shipped (I did not look around for other prices, but I assume these prices to be in around the norm). The FX is unlocked, also. That's not bad for the price. I doubt many people could tell a difference between the FX6300 and much pricier CPU's on that list, at least not if they have a 60Hz monitor.

 

[LTC8K6]

The boxed FX6300 is on Newegg right now for $99 shipped. The i3 4330 is $137 shipped (I did not look around for other prices, but I assume these prices to be in around the norm). The FX is unlocked, also. That's not bad for the price. I doubt many people could tell a difference between the FX6300 and much pricier CPU's on that list, at least not if they have a 60Hz monitor.

Well, I was always willing to pay a premium for Intel, even though I have built AMD A10-6700, FX8320, and FX6300 systems and have no complaints about them.

I have stuck with Intel through thick and thin, as you can tell by my sig, but I don't discourage the purchase of AMD chips, and I don't bash AMD.

I fully realize that competition is good and necessary.

I hope that AMD will push Intel in the coming months.