AMD FX-8770 and 9000 - 220W TDP, 5 GHz

[boxleitnerb]

Sweclockers seems to have some information about two new AMD CPUs.

The FX-8770 with yet unknown clocks and 220 W TDP
The FX-9000 with 4.8 GHz base and 5.0 GHz turbo and also 220 W TDP

http://translate.googleusercontent....50-ghz&usg=ALkJrhidcvp5fzYtnjTqT2CoxRQyNx--aw

Personally, I think what's the point? Overclocking these CPUs will be near impossible imo and they will be expensive due to the cooler (I assume they will bundle these with watercooling) and a possible premium bonus. Seems like an act of desperation to me. If Kaveri truly is a 2013 product, why not release Steamroller earlier instead of this?

 

[ShintaiDK]

Not again...

 

[mikk]

Kaveri only has 2 modules, so it cannot replace current 4 module Vishera in the higher end segment. 220W TDP is really high.

 

[boxleitnerb]

Why does AMD have to replace anything until Steamroller is ready? Price cuts ftw
Better than this imo.

 

[SiliconWars]

Kaveri and a 4-module Steamroller would clearly be different dies. Remember all this last year when Piledriver was supposedly cancelled too?

There is a lot of conflicting information coming out of AMD and some of it is deliberate. The best way to ensure the truth is harder to find is to spread lies. This 5 GHz Piledriver seems like nonsense to me.

 

[ShintaiDK]

Its the fake Centurion FX specs.

And no way 220W would be near enough.

 

[JimmiG]

Intel from 2005 called. They want their Netburst back.

 

[sushiwarrior]

I can tell you the processor exists, but last I saw there was some serious conflict about whether to release it or not.

 

[Idontcare]

Seems like an act of desperation to me.

It is, but not of AMD. Act of desperation of Sweclockers and everyone else trying to get page hits and ad revenue by peddling concocted rumors.

 

[Lepton87]

I think 8350 is almost all they can get from PD, maybe they could sell PD clocked at 4.2GHz/4.3GHz but very few chips would actually pass the binning process and it still wouldn't make any difference. Not to mention they should increase TDP. They already should.

 

[ShintaiDK]

I think 8350 is almost all they can get from PD, maybe they could sell PD clocked at 4.2GHz/4.3GHz but very few chips would actually pass the binning process and it still wouldn't make any difference. Not to mention they should increase TDP. They already should.

The current ones dont even pass the binnings. Its already 140W+ chips.

 

[ViRGE]

It is, but not of AMD. Act of desperation of Sweclockers and everyone else trying to get page hits and ad revenue by peddling concocted rumors.

Indeed. Listen to the wise man.

 

[T_Yamamoto]

Indeed. Listen to the wise man.

He is the Confucius of Anandtech Forum

 

[galego]

The relevant part:

AMD is expected to introduce the FX-9000 and FX-8770 at the E3 games show on 11-13 June.

Others claim that AMD will announce them at Computex.

My bet for FX-8770: 4.5-4.7 GHz

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[Rvenger]

Way to high TDP.. we all know how AMD measures the TDP. These will be pulling 300 from the wall not including a graphics card.

 

[guskline]

Way to high TDP.. we all know how AMD measures the TDP. These will be pulling 300 from the wall not including a graphics card.

I agree Revenger. The 8150 drew a lot of power and though the 8350 was an improvement, my experience with it is if you crank up the clock it also starts to suck down the power. If these FX8770/9000 chips are real cpus, what kind of MB will you need? IDC, I think did an anaylsis of the power usage. My 8350 is at 4.6 Ghz but that is 21 clock and 219 fsb. I found this to be the best combo for my mb with increasing the voltage too much. What kind of VRM would you need for a FX9000?

 

[Endymion FRS]

Wait, I'm actually skeptical based on the nomenclature of the chip itself. FX9000? FX8770? Assuming this is related to Piledriver, and higher clocked versions in the same processor family of that went up by xZxx, for example FX8320 -> FX8350, FX4300 -> FX4350. Having a radical naming change for something that is just a higher clocked part seems extremely fishy. Wouldn't they just call it FX8390 for the 5Ghz part and FX8370 for the other one?

I'm overthinking the names on a fake CPU aren't I? :\

 

[techie81]

Holy high TDP!!! That way too high. I would have thought about it if it was less than 200.

 

[OVerLoRDI]

I wouldn't mind too much if the performance warranted such a high TDP.

Assuming if this is even real....

 

[FlanK3r]

The relevant part:


Others claim that AMD will announce them at Computex.

My bet for FX-8770: 4.5-4.7 GHz

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it could be, but why TDP 220 for it? If this CPU are in limited series for half year example, it can be problem get this model around 140W TDP. Good FX-8350s can get 4.5 GHz with very low voltage around 1.35V

 

[SlowSpyder]

I could get around the TDP if they priced these at current FX8350 prices!

But the cost of a cooler for this type of chip and a motherboard that can handle the power delivery probably would erase any 'deal' I would have thought I was getting. So maybe not on second thought. :/

 

[galego]

it could be, but why TDP 220 for it? If this CPU are in limited series for half year example, it can be problem get this model around 140W TDP. Good FX-8350s can get 4.5 GHz with very low voltage around 1.35V

Who knows why 220? Good 8350s can get 5 GHz on air with relatively low voltages. This will be an enthusiasts line. Maybe are they considering the possibility of OC? If no why the higher price?

 

[Ayah]

It is, but not of AMD. Act of desperation of Sweclockers and everyone else trying to get page hits and ad revenue by peddling concocted rumors.

Yeah, the beancounters would never let it go out the door with a valid warranty.

That and the fact that AMD has no "stock" solution that can handle such TDP.

 

[Idontcare]

Yeah, the beancounters would never let it go out the door with a valid warranty.

That and the fact that AMD has no "stock" solution that can handle such TDP.

AMD knows how to cool >300W TDP GPU's, so personally I have no concerns about their prowess to develop and implement reliable stock cooling solutions for a 220W TDP CPU.

What I don't believe is that AMD would bother to do something like that given that the marketshare for such a CPU would surely be extremely limited in terms of total units the market would absorb globally on an annual basis.

Intel has now released its second-generation 22nm product. AMD needs to focus on getting their 28nm SKUs to the market in volumes, 32nm is not going to take them where they need to go at this point.

A 220W TDP Steamroller 28nm chip will be head-and-shoulders above a 220W TDP Piledriver 32nm chip, especially because it would come with an added microarchitectural bump to IPC.

 

[inf64]

Yeah, the beancounters would never let it go out the door with a valid warranty.

That and the fact that AMD has no "stock" solution that can handle such TDP.

AMD already bundled WaterCooling with 8150 and 8350