AMD GPU14: Presentation from the live stream and pictures of R9 and R7 Series

[Warsam71]

Hello everyone,

Below is the link to the PowerPoint presentation that was used during our live stream from Hawaii. In addition to providing an overview of the new R9 and R7 series GPUs, it includes prices for some of the cards, the Battlefield 4 bundle, TrueAudio Tech, and slides on Star Citizen, Thief, Lichdom, and our new API Mantle:

GPU 14 Presentation (PDF): [FONT=&quot]https://amd.app.box.com/GPU14publicpreso[/FONT]

In addition, here is the link to the high resolution pictures of the cards:
[FONT=&quot]https://amd.box.com/GPU14shots


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[Stuka87]

Thanks for the links Sam!

Are you able to tell us when we can expect to see specs for the R9-290 cards? It appears they are available for pre-order before we know what they offer in terms of performance.

 

[imaheadcase]

It still boggles the mind why you guys went and did the true audio thing. I have never heard someone say they wanted a feature like that.

 

[Stuka87]

It still boggles the mind why you guys went and did the true audio thing. I have never heard someone say they wanted a feature like that.

Plenty of people that want better audio. PC's have been without good audio since Creative went under. I think PC users have just grown used to horrible on board audio as being the norm.

 

[Phynaz]

It would be nice if AMD hosted the pictures on their own website.

 

[Warsam71]

Thanks for the links Sam!

Are you able to tell us when we can expect to see specs for the R9-290 cards? It appears they are available for pre-order before we know what they offer in terms of performance.

It should be soon Stuka, but unfortunately I can't provide you a more exact timeframe. I'll make sure to share the information as soon as it becomes available to me.

 

[Warsam71]

Plenty of people that want better audio. PC's have been without good audio since Creative went under. I think PC users have just grown used to horrible on board audio as being the norm.

I remember Creative Labs and their Soundblasters. Back in the days I'd keep a slot aside just for the sound card.

 

[imaheadcase]

Plenty of people that want better audio. PC's have been without good audio since Creative went under. I think PC users have just grown used to horrible on board audio as being the norm.

But that is the thing, games don't need it at all. Everything in the slides can be done on modern CPUs without needed extra power. Its not better audio they are touting, its basicly just making normal sounding stuff 3d sounds. Which is already done with CPUs without hardly any overhead to notice. Creative cards are great if you have a very old CPU that sound takes a huge chunk of cpu cycles.

Why lots of people are scratching heads is because this was a huge part of presentation, clearly lots of effort was put into this on cards. That was a huge chunk of R&D not really needed.

Maybe someone will find a use for it, but as of right now it looks like just something extra to throw into the card.

 

[Bateluer]

Plenty of people that want better audio. PC's have been without good audio since Creative went under. I think PC users have just grown used to horrible on board audio as being the norm.

Creative Labs? They went under? Their crappy sound cards still litter store shelves and persist at e-tailers today.


I'm all for better quality sound, but the onboard audio on motherboards have been of better quality than most sound cards for several years now. Unless you need additional inputs and features for sound recording and processing, onboard is plenty good.

 

[Stuka87]

Creative Labs? They went under? Their crappy sound cards still litter store shelves and persist at e-tailers today.


I'm all for better quality sound, but the onboard audio on motherboards have been of better quality than most sound cards for several years now. Unless you need additional inputs and features for sound recording and processing, onboard is plenty good.

Sadly, you are correct. I never visit brick and mortar shops. But quick search shows they are around. Guess I was thinking of Aureal.

 

[crazzy.heartz]

Hi Sam,

First of all, thanks for sharing the link and participating on the forum.

I would like to bring something to your attention. Would appreciate if you can share your thoughts on the same.

In the past, i have observed that Nvidia send's OC'd models of their cards to review websites, right when these sites are in the process of drafting reviews for new cards launching for AMD.

Performance graphs become clitterd with old, cherry picked Nvidia cards, boosed to their limits and takes a users attention away from the new cards being launched by AMD with new Arch., DX, lesser cost, new node, but, @ stock clock. A biased user is thus able to justify his over-prised purchase and this cycle continues from gen to gen..

Since there are no official performance numbers/ benchmarks available for different Graphics card on AMD website; someone looking to buy a graphics card has to depend on data published on these 3'rd party websites and your brand it then at their mercy..

Should't you guys be sending OC'd version of your graphics card to reviewers as well, when they are in the process of writing reviews for Nvidia cards about to launch. ?

 

[SiliconWars]

There's a bunch of stuff that AMD isn't really getting right regarding press samples. It's a source of eternal frustration for me as well.

 

[Warsam71]

Hi Sam,

First of all, thanks for sharing the link and participating on the forum.

I would like to bring something to your attention. Would appreciate if you can share your thoughts on the same.

In the past, i have observed that Nvidia send's OC'd models of their cards to review websites, right when these sites are in the process of drafting reviews for new cards launching for AMD.

Performance graphs become clitterd with old, cherry picked Nvidia cards, boosed to their limits and takes a users attention away from the new cards being launched by AMD with new Arch., DX, lesser cost, new node, but, @ stock clock. A biased user is thus able to justify his over-prised purchase and this cycle continues from gen to gen..

Since there are no official performance numbers/ benchmarks available for different Graphics card on AMD website; someone looking to buy a graphics card has to depend on data published on these 3'rd party websites and your brand it then at their mercy..

Should't you guys be sending OC'd version of your graphics card to reviewers as well, when they are in the process of writing reviews for Nvidia cards about to launch. ?

Thanks for your comment and suggestion. We don't put performance numbers on our site as there are numerous factors that influence performance of the GPU and various benchmarks. We are always looking for the best way to ensure that the value of our products is evident. I can tell you we are always sampling boards that represent the market availability.

 

[crazzy.heartz]

Thanks for your comment and suggestion. We don't put performance numbers on our site as there are numerous factors that influence performance of the GPU and various benchmarks. We are always looking for the best way to ensure that the value of our products is evident. I can tell you we are always sampling boards that represent the market availability.

Thanks for responding !!

I googled "amd 7970 performance", Result - http://www.amd.com/us/products/desktop/graphics/7000/7970/Pages/radeon-7970.aspx

Then, I googled "nvidia 680 performance, Result - http://www.geforce.com/hardware/desktop-gpus/geforce-gtx-680/performance

This is such a comprehensive products page: http://www.geforce.com/hardware/desktop-gpus/geforce-gtx-680

A better representation/ showcasing of product's on the website to highlight it's features, strength's would definitely be beneficial.

The graphics for your GPU 14 presentation were really great. I am sure if that team get their hands on the AMD website or the Graphics card sub-category; they'd do wonders..

Again, appreciate your response and taking our thoughts into consideration.

Best Regards

 

[rgallant]

Plenty of people that want better audio. PC's have been without good audio since Creative went under. I think PC users have just grown used to horrible on board audio as being the norm.

I just picked up a sb-z
my beloved forte when dead
-ran on board for 20 min. pulled the plug on a upgraded m5f audio mb
-no issues to date.
- per net avg. low budget kids say on board is fine I call bs if amd wants to go after a better sound solution , why not .

 

[SolMiester]

Hi Sam,

First of all, thanks for sharing the link and participating on the forum.

I would like to bring something to your attention. Would appreciate if you can share your thoughts on the same.

In the past, i have observed that Nvidia send's OC'd models of their cards to review websites, right when these sites are in the process of drafting reviews for new cards launching for AMD.

Performance graphs become clitterd with old, cherry picked Nvidia cards, boosed to their limits and takes a users attention away from the new cards being launched by AMD with new Arch., DX, lesser cost, new node, but, @ stock clock. A biased user is thus able to justify his over-prised purchase and this cycle continues from gen to gen..

Since there are no official performance numbers/ benchmarks available for different Graphics card on AMD website; someone looking to buy a graphics card has to depend on data published on these 3'rd party websites and your brand it then at their mercy..

Should't you guys be sending OC'd version of your graphics card to reviewers as well, when they are in the process of writing reviews for Nvidia cards about to launch. ?

I remember this happened with GTX460OC, but cant remember this recently.....

 

[Red Hawk]

But that is the thing, games don't need it at all. Everything in the slides can be done on modern CPUs without needed extra power. Its not better audio they are touting, its basicly just making normal sounding stuff 3d sounds. Which is already done with CPUs without hardly any overhead to notice. Creative cards are great if you have a very old CPU that sound takes a huge chunk of cpu cycles.

Why lots of people are scratching heads is because this was a huge part of presentation, clearly lots of effort was put into this on cards. That was a huge chunk of R&D not really needed.

Maybe someone will find a use for it, but as of right now it looks like just something extra to throw into the card.

You are clearly not an audiophile.

 

[Elixer]

Thanks for the pdf & pics Sam.

 

[WhoBeDaPlaya]

Creative Labs? They went under? Their crappy sound cards still litter store shelves and persist at e-tailers today.

Nothing a steady hand and some SMT soldering won't fix.
Love my modded X-Fis.

 

[BoFox]

You are clearly not an audiophile.

then what happened to SoundStorm from years and years ago, and to great-sounding stuff from WinXP games compared to Vista+? Why didn't audiophiles complain enough?!?

 

[3DVagabond]

then what happened to SoundStorm from years and years ago, and to great-sounding stuff from WinXP games compared to Vista+? Why didn't audiophiles complain enough?!?

The problem is most people are not "audiophiles". Most people wouldn't know high fidelity sound if they heard it. I think plenty of people game with headphones though. This could end up a fairly popular feature. They just need to get the reviewers on board and actually have them review the feature. The biggest problem seems to be that most reviewers don't seem to include something in their reviews unless both nVidia and AMD offer it.

 

[Warsam71]

The problem is most people are not "audiophiles". Most people wouldn't know high fidelity sound if they heard it. I think plenty of people game with headphones though. This could end up a fairly popular feature. They just need to get the reviewers on board and actually have them review the feature. The biggest problem seems to be that most reviewers don't seem to include something in their reviews unless both nVidia and AMD offer it.

Personally, as some of you may know, I'm a gamer at heart, and have been playing games for a long, long time now. Sounds are very important to me as they help deliver a deeper more immersive experience, especially when playing an MMOs or FPS with others; because of this, surround sound and multi-speaker configuration is essential to me.

 

[3DVagabond]

Personally, as some of you may know, I'm a gamer at heart, and have been playing games for a long, long time now. Sounds are very important to me as they help deliver a deeper more immersive experience, especially when playing an MMOs or FPS with others; because of this, surround sound and multi-speaker configuration is essential to me.

Sound is such a subjective thing though. It's also one of those things the brain compensates for when it's not right. This is why so many people can accept less than stellar sound. It is an acquired taste though and people tend to get addicted quite easily. This is where making people aware and getting them to sample it makes a big difference. I used to sell high end audio gear. If you sat people down in front of a true hi-fi system with music they were familiar with you could really open their eyes, or ears actually.

 

[imaheadcase]

You are clearly not an audiophile.

Audiophiles don't play games and care about it.

 

[wahdangun]

It still boggles the mind why you guys went and did the true audio thing. I have never heard someone say they wanted a feature like that.

i definitely want it, after vista sound positioning is crap. you must try playing GTA:SA in XP with creative audigy, and you will be blown away with the sound it produce.

heck i'm still got my XP and audigy2 sound card, play old games like F.E.A.R and GTA:SA.