Mantle is open and they already stated it will be launched for Linux as well, it's an API that allows much closer to the metal calls to GCN cards, which both consoles are using. I see a million and one benefits for them to port it over as an API for the consoles and very few for Microsoft of Sony to not let them.
Christ, how did Nvidia let this happen... JHH must be priming them for an Intel buyout...
I am extremely sad. Someone tell me it's going to be okay...
Mantle is open and they already stated it will be launched for Linux as well, it's an API that allows much closer to the metal calls to GCN cards, which both consoles are using. I see a million and one benefits for them to port it over as an API for the consoles and very few for Microsoft of Sony to not let them.
Mantle is not open. There is a reason why we have high level apis on windows and other plattforms. It's a vendor specific api like Cuda.
So you really believe they have not think about it? Look at PhysX and Cuda. It's hard to push something like this when it's vendor specific.
Mantle is not open. There is a reason why we have high level apis on windows and other plattforms. It's a vendor specific api like Cuda.
Stop, we don't need another locked thread in your honor.
This is probably the Linux/AMD tweet related news we saw earlier, As a matter of fact ... SteamOS/Linux using this API would be amazing.
So you really believe they have not think about it? Look at PhysX and Cuda. It's hard to push something like this when it's vendor specific.
should have started with the mantle stuff.
mantle was probably how they were running bf4 at 4k on the 7990 at gdc. the demo of the bf4 sp was at eyefinity probably at the 3x 1080p they were running earlier.
this is good news for laptop and casual gamers on apu. direct calls to metal should give them a nice performance boost for non cpu limited games. maybe allow them to play some more demanding games at better quality. kaveri should be very interesting for a gaming laptop.
big question is if it requires gcn2.0 or if gcn1.0 will get some lovin.
I don't know if that's true, but maybe AMD has changed their approach? I don't know enough about Mantle to say personally, I'll wait for more details.Low level will never be optimize for every plattform. That is not possible. Mantle is AMD specific and goes against their open standard propaganda.
right? seriously that audio stuff ..... almost had me falling asleep.
Then epic new low level api, close to metal ect,.....
Why the hell didnt they lead with that?
Wow, if they pull it off Mantle it could completely destroy Nvidia's consumer GPU business. Sure, Nvidia could come out with their own version -- I'm sure they will need to now -- but they have so many handicaps that it's hard to see how they can counter this. AMD's API is coming out first, before the end of 2013 even. How quickly can Nvidia cook up a similar program? Thanks to the massive investment in Gaming Evolved, AMD now has superior dev relations. And then there's the fact that AMD has the entire console market locked up, so it's only natural for devs to utilize Mantle to carry over those optimizations for cross platform games.
I can see two glimmers of hope for Nvidia: That AMD will botch the API (always a possibility when it comes to AMD these days), or that the Nvidia-EPIC partnership can put out their own competitor in the not to distant future, although it doesn't seem like unreal engine is going to be as pervasive in this coming generation of games as it was in the last one.
In a way, this has the potential to be terrible in the long run. I didn't expect such an inspired move from AMD, and Nvidia is potentially in real danger. While I love the thought of a giant leap in graphics performance in the short to mid term, if AMD kills off Nvidia (still can't believe I'm saying this) we'll end up with stagnation in the long run. On the other hand, there would still be Intel....
Mantle is AMD specific and goes against their open standard propaganda.
Kind of jumping the gun here, eh? Seems like AMD is going to take their ball and go play on a different court with a different set of rules.....too early to conclude if that is negative or positive.
With AMD now powering all three of the latest gaming consoles, Microsoft Xbox One, Sony PlayStation 4 and the Nintendo Wii U, the company is now seizing the opportunity to extend and evolve the gaming developer community by releasing a new API (codenamed Mantle) to directly tap into the hardware capabilities of AMD's GCN-based GPUs (such as the Jaguar-core based AMD Kabini APU) and unleash the full performance potential of the GPU in an efficient manner. Here's the official statement from AMD pertaining to this new initiative and focuses on the PC segment; more details to be unveiled later in the day:-
Mantle, an AMD initiative to create a new graphics programming model that fully exploits the capabilities of modern GPUs, allows game developers to speak the native language of the AMD Graphics Core Next (GCN) architecture, providing a deeper level of hardware optimization no other graphics card manufacturer can match.
As part of this initiative, we have worked with leading game developers to create an API specification and associated graphics driver that enables this model on PCs with GCN-based graphics hardware. Mantle was created in direct response to requests from leading game developers, so interest is very high.
AMD R9 280X, IS A REBRANDED 7970GHZ
Bahahaha. [redacted] seriously. The only card thats new is 290X and it may even be slower than GTX 780...
http://news.softpedia.com/news/Firs...-a-Rebranded-HD-7970-GHz-Edition-386239.shtml