AMD GPU14 Tech Event Sept 25 - AMD Hawiian Islands

[chimaxi83]

So I take it this event was kind of like a hot tranny picture where you start with the head and slowly move down getting aroused only to find a sausage (paper launch) at the end? Maybe I shouldn't poke fun at AMD, I might get banned since they sponsor AT.

Uh huh, that's it bro.

 

[AnandThenMan]

He loves talking about his game...

 

[pipm1]

I didn't watch it. Was anything mentioned about Linux? The Chris Pirillo guy on twitter mentioned something would be said about it... anything?

 

[Riceninja]

so whats the consensus? another 7950 for me?

 

[sontin]

So, a public backed up game where people with nVidia cards gave money are now screwed? Lol, Kickstarter at best.

 

[Roland00Address]

Trying to make sense of the new / rebrand gpus

From the anandtech live blog
05:07PM EDT*- Wild guess based on AMD's specs and features listed so far. 290 = New GPU. 280 = Tahiti. 270 = Pitcairn. 260 = Bonaire. 250 = Cape Verde or Oland

3d Mark Firestrike Scores all the below gpus using stock clocks, scores are in bold so it is easier for you to compare.
7970 GHZ 7597 1000 mhz
7950 Boost 6033 850 mhz
7870 GHZ 5024 1000 mhz
7850 4184 860 mhz
7770 GHZ 2744 1000 mhz
7750 2069 800 mhz
US Hardware Info

Another 3d Mark Firestrike numbers for comparison (some of these are OC)
7970 GHZ OC 7899 1050 mhz
7950 Boost OC 6708 950 mhz
7870 GHZ OC 5532 1050 mhz
7850 OC 4855 1000 mhz
7770 GHZ 2841 1000 mhz
7750 2109 800 mhz
Xbitlabs

The Following info is from the amd slide,
R9 290 X about over 7000, very very close to 8000 so over 7970 GHZ performance but not much higher with the graph used, price not disclosed, preorder oct 3
R9 280X about 6800 so between 7950 boost and 7970 ghz performance $299
R9 270X about 5500 so about 7870 ghz performance $199
R7 260X about 3700 almost 7850 stock clock performance, probably about 7790 performance $139
R7 250 about 2000 about 7750 performance $89

290x, 290, and 260x are the new cards based off the audio stuff.

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So this is me talking what are the chances the R7 260x is literally a 7790? Similar to how the 5770 and 6770 were the same card but the 6770 supported fast hdmi and the 5770 did not? If so all we got was a rename for the oems like hp and dell and new names for the board partners such as sapphire, xfx, msi, asus, etc.

 

[Freaksterz]

I didn't watch it. Was anything mentioned about Linux? The Chris Pirillo guy on twitter mentioned something would be said about it... anything?

Nope, Nothing on linux whatsoever :/

 

[chimaxi83]

So, a public backed up game where people with nVidia cards gave money are now screwed? Lol, Kickstarter at best.

And another derail.

 

[Cloudfire777]

7970 GHz: TDP = 250W
R9 290X: TDP = 300W

7970GHz: 2048 cores
R9 290X: 2816 cores

300/250 = 1.2

2816/2048 = 1.38

1.38/1.2 = 1.15

GCN 2.0 is like 15% more efficient than GCN.

Call me extremely disappointed. All this hype and all AMD do is increase the power consumption to beat Nvidia? It may match Titan but it runs 50W higher (Titan 250W, R9 290X 300W).

This is Bulldozer vs Ivy Bridge all over again.

 

[exar333]

So, a public backed up game where people with nVidia cards gave money are now screwed? Lol, Kickstarter at best.

What? This was never said...

 

[AnandThenMan]

This is Bulldozer vs Ivy Bridge all over again

BD beat Ivy Bridge? Cool....

 

[Gloomy]

This is getting pretty lame. Where are the driver news? The Linux news? Stop playing marketer for video game studios.

 

[chimaxi83]

If those Firestrike scores are fairly accurate for the 290x, then D:

 

[Revolution 11]

Call me extremely disappointed. All this hype and all AMD do is increase the power consumption to beat Nvidia? It may match Titan but it runs 50W higher (Titan 250W, R9 290X 300W).

I thought it is very hard to improve performance/watt on the same process node. What were you expecting, a 50% performance/watt improvement on 28nm? :hmm:

 

[Cloudfire777]

BD beat Ivy Bridge? Cool....

No it didnt, but with Bulldozer they upped the power draw to match Intel (in a lot of scenarios) which was much more efficient.

This is the exact same only with GPUs. No wonder why Nvidia wasnt scared of these cards.

I thought it is very hard to improve performance/watt on the same process node. What were you expecting, a 50% performance/watt improvement on 28nm? :hmm:

With all this hype, I was expecting a monster of a card.
Turns out they just come dragging along to match Nvidia, just like they did with 7990 against 690. Too late to the party, again.

 

[thilanliyan]

Give me R290 game benchmarks...please?

 

[tigersty1e]

Quote:

Originally Posted by tigersty1e

the big question is if the consoles also have trueaudio.

if so, this could be HUGE.




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Explain why please. Why is this any different than what we have right now? I mean you can simulate 5.1 on a headset, it's done right now. You can add effects via software right now. Audio off a game is still lossy so the clarity is still compromised to some extent. To me this all seems like marketing speak for something we have done in other ways for a long time with dedicated soundcards and some HT receivers.

true positional audio for 2 speakers is created in software. hardware is what will help drive this software but true positional audio needs to be supported by a dev.

we currently don't have 5.1 on 2 speakers. the last time it was done was creative eax on xp/alchemy for vista/7.

the reason it died was both a lack of dev support and Microsoft's change in support for direct sound in vista/7. but if it creative eax had more dev support or was an industry standard, Microsoft would've worked more closely with creative.

if true audio is on the consoles, there's a good chance all devs will adopt this. when games get ported to the PC, you can expect it to also come to the PC. true positional audio can now become an industry standard and coded for all games.

you can have the


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[Gloomy]

Is "walled garden" the new buzzword for this decade?

 

[pipm1]

Nope, Nothing on linux whatsoever :/

Oh well, thanks. I guess I'll go to bed now.

And from looking at the Firestarter scores I thought the same as Roland00Address's summary.

 

[sontin]

I'm the only one who never heared of Raptr?!

 

[Gloomy]

A Steam ripoff?

 

[24601]

Cool, GeForce Experience clone.

EDIT:
That............ literally gives you nothing other than what people suggest..........

 

[chimaxi83]

Its their version of Geforce Experience. Embrace it.

 

[5150Joker]

I'm the only one who never heared of Raptr?!

Dennis Fong is smart, probably met the right people, got some funding from AMD and others and started some app nobody will use. In a year or two it'll fail and be forgotten (well it was never known anyway) and he'll walk away with a few million dollars.

 

[24601]

Its their version of Geforce Experience. Embrace it.

They literally just pissed it away with the next sentence............

They don't do that automatic settings tracking that Nvidia does with their WHQL validation rigs.