AMD hexa-core Thuban CPU clock speed leaked

[james 1]

http://www.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=22976

 

[Insomniator]

I haven't really been keeping up; AMD still has no plans to take the performance crown back?

Best part is the AM3 compatibility. Those boards are cheap as hell and the x4 965 cost less than $200 these days... if the x6 is less than $350 it'll be an easy way to get a lot of cores.

 

[richierich1212]

Ok now the waiting game begins.

 

[aigomorla]

2.6 and 2.8

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What happened with AMD and lower clock speeds?

I haven't really been keeping up; AMD still has no plans to take the performance crown back?

im not assuming it with those clock speeds.
I think AMD is trying to get the efficiency crown point on this platform.

 

[theevilsharpie]

Thought to be arriving next month, AMD's first six-core CPUs will arrive in the form of Phenom II X6 parts codenamed Thuban.

AMD's first six-core CPU? Perhaps I'm mistaken, but haven't six-core Opterons been out for a while now?

 

[james 1]

i think i am probably wrong on this but does that mean you might be able to unlock some chips to 6 six cores cause that would be sweet

 

[Markfw]

AMD's first six-core CPU? Perhaps I'm mistaken, but haven't six-core Opterons been out for a while now?

Yup....But I think the non-server hexacore is what they are saying as first, but good point.

 

[SunnyD]

i think i am probably wrong on this but does that mean you might be able to unlock some chips to 6 six cores cause that would be sweet

Eventually, maybe. But it's doubtful that AMD will be making Quads and less out of these parts for a while. I think this is about the point were it's probably more cost-effective from a production standpoint to actually design smaller dies for the lower end part. Gotta remember, the more cores the bigger the die (relatively, variables such as node need to be accounted for). The bigger the die, the less yield per wafer. The less yield, the higher the cost per working die.

 

[Insomniator]

i think i am probably wrong on this but does that mean you might be able to unlock some chips to 6 six cores cause that would be sweet

Eventually maybe but not yet. We'd have to wait for these chips to be out for a while, then for them to start selling the ones that didn't have 6 working cores as X4/X3/X2 chips, then have to wait for yields to be high enough for them to start selling fully working X6 chips as X4/X3/X2.

 

[james 1]

Eventually, maybe. But it's doubtful that AMD will be making Quads and less out of these parts for a while. I think this is about the point were it's probably more cost-effective from a production standpoint to actually design smaller dies for the lower end part. Gotta remember, the more cores the bigger the die (relatively, variables such as node need to be accounted for). The bigger the die, the less yield per wafer. The less yield, the higher the cost per working die.

lol there goes my dream of it being under £200

 

[StinkyPinky]

Seems to me the more cores the slower the clock speed. For obvious reasons.

When 12-core cpus are released we'll be down to 1.5 GHZ

 

[aigomorla]

i think i am probably wrong on this but does that mean you might be able to unlock some chips to 6 six cores cause that would be sweet

i dont think amd has ever done a 2 core shut down.

Unless you guys can show me a dual core that unlocked to a quadcore?

TO my knowledge it was tri cores unlocking to a quadcore.

On a Hexcore and Quadcore, you got a lot more area going to waste vs. a tricore and quadcore.

 

[SunnyD]

i dont think amd has ever done a 2 core shut down.

Unless you guys can show me a dual core that unlocked to a quadcore?

TO my knowledge it was tri cores unlocking to a quadcore.

On a Hexcore and Quadcore, you got a lot more area going to waste vs. a tricore and quadcore.

Yes they have. The X2 550's I believe are Phenom II parts.

Edit: Here ya go.

lol there goes my dream of it being under £200

Well keep dreaming. Once AMD has enough "binned" parts stocked up with failed cores, they will likely start putting them out as lower tier parts. I just think it will take longer this time so they don't cannibalize their current quad part inventories.

 

[Dark4ng3l]

Depends how well these can overclock. If you can get 3.4 out of them then I would consider getting one depending on the price of course.

 

[BD231]

2.6 and 2.8
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What happened with AMD and lower clock speeds?
im not assuming it with those clock speeds.
I think AMD is trying to get the efficiency crown point on this platform.

Don't be so sure, it's a Phenom II; a part known to reach 3.8ghz with ease.

 

[aigomorla]

Don't be so sure, it's a Phenom II; a part known to reach 3.8ghz with ease.

you see thats what worries me.

If it was that, then why not at 3.0 and 3.2ghz?

and leave the higher ghz to the BE edition chips.

Yes they have. The X2 550's I believe are Phenom II parts.

Edit: Here ya go.

Ohhh.. i stand corrected...
Maybe you guys will get a limited amount of quads with 2 extra cores disabled.

 

[veri745]

Anybody have any conjecture on what the rumored turbo/boost speed will be on these and how many cores?

 

[BD231]

Why release at a higher clock speed when there's money to make at lower TDP? That's usually what they do, release a new part and slowly introduce higher clocks and new revisions as yields get better.

 

[DrMrLordX]

Why release at a higher clock speed when there's money to make at lower TDP? That's usually what they do, release a new part and slowly introduce higher clocks and new revisions as yields get better.

It should also be noted that they're releasing a 45-nm hexcore at speeds higher than what Istanbul had at launch. I think the top speed for Istanbul last June (when Istanbul launched) was 2.6 ghz, so launching Thuban at 2.8 ghz isn't terrible.

Besides, there's supposed to be a 3 ghz Thuban, but it didn't make it into that leak for some reason (the 1075T).

This isn't like Intel launching the 980X at speeds close to what their 45nm i7s can reach since the 980X is on an entirely new (and smaller) process.

When 12-core cpus are released we'll be down to 1.5 GHZ

I think the top clockspeed for Magny Cours is going to be 2.3 ghz at launch? Yeah, 2.3 ghz.

 

[grimpr]

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[veri745]

Stock frequency 3300 MHz

What does this mean? Is it overclocked?

 

[Dark4ng3l]

What does this mean? Is it overclocked?

Might be the ''Turbo'' speed of the processor (using less cores it clocks up)

 

[heyheybooboo]

i dont think amd has ever done a 2 core shut down.

Unless you guys can show me a dual core that unlocked to a quadcore?

TO my knowledge it was tri cores unlocking to a quadcore.

On a Hexcore and Quadcore, you got a lot more area going to waste vs. a tricore and quadcore.

You mean like this? Phenom 550BE to Quad ...

It unlocked AND under-volted --- pulls 127w 'at the wall' at load.


Edit: With a Gigabyte 785g AM2+




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[aigomorla]

sunny already showed me.

But if u love proving me wrong go ahead one more time.

 

[Martimus]

What does this mean? Is it overclocked?

Check the HT clock speed (240MHz), it is overclocked by 20%. That means its stock is ~2.8GHz.