AMD hexa-core Thuban CPU clock speed leaked

[jvroig]

People will buy them just because, whether they perform better or not. I mean, if it has more cores, it HAS to be better right?

Wouldn't be surprised if you are right about that. I could be mistaken, but didn't the same thing work for Intel way back when during the GHz wars? (In a way, "Intel processorss are better because they are clocked faster, right?")

If AMD does go this route, then they are playing it smarter. And they aren't exactly ripping people off, since all their products right now are cheap (perhaps by necessity). Hexa-core for $200, with decent turbo-like feature, same 95/125W TDP, and uses same old existing AM3 socket? Sign me up, I'd say.

 

[Gillbot]

Wouldn't be surprised if you are right about that. I could be mistaken, but didn't the same thing work for Intel way back when during the GHz wars? (In a way, "Intel processorss are better because they are clocked faster, right?")

If AMD does go this route, then they are playing it smarter. And they aren't exactly ripping people off, since all their products right now are cheap (perhaps by necessity). Hexa-core for $200, with decent turbo-like feature, same 95/125W TDP, and uses same old existing AM3 socket? Sign me up, I'd say.

It's still the same with current CPUs. How many cores do you need for freecell, word and internet explorer? The AVERAGE user doesn't need a 8 threaded 920 or a six core AMD but people will buy them because.

I'm not knocking it. Hell, I'm curious myself and tempted to try one out just to see how they fare.

 

[LoneNinja]

It's still the same with current CPUs. How many cores do you need for freecell, word and internet explorer? The AVERAGE user doesn't need a 8 threaded 920 or a six core AMD but people will buy them because.

I'm not knocking it. Hell, I'm curious myself and tempted to try one out just to see how they fare.

A lot of gamers are already asking how much will Phenom II X6 improve my performance in so and so game over Phenom II X4, and a number of the games their asking about a Phenom II X2 performs just as well as Phenom II X4. I get the feeling forums will be flooded with angry buyers asking why they don't get any more fps than they did before. People will just assume more cores = more powerful.

I personally want to get one and mess with it, but I would actually have use for one due to my usage with 3ds max and other software.

 

[Sonikku13]

I just got the news that my motherboard will support Thuban, which means I'm setting my sights on it. At $300 for the 1090T BE, I probably can't resist.

 

[StinkyPinky]

$199 for a six core CPU at 2.8GHZ? $295 for 3.2Ghz? DDR2 support for people with DDR2 ram?

Damn, that's pretty good. That's a cheap upgrade. It will sell at those prices.

 

[Apocalypse23]

Don't these Thubans have a whole new architecture than the X4 phenoms? I'm expecting them to be an i7 version of AMD...

 

[Dark4ng3l]

Don't these Thubans have a whole new architecture than the X4 phenoms? I'm expecting them to be an i7 version of AMD...

No they are supposed to be the same as the X4s but with a ''Turbo'' mode.

 

[Apocalypse23]

No they are supposed to be the same as the X4s but with a ''Turbo'' mode.

So I guess the new architecture chips are called Bulldozer, coming in 2011 ?

 

[james 1]

http://www.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=23027

just speculation, but at $300 who can say no, but I am over here in the UK so could be about £250 sweet

 

[3DVagabond]

It's still the same with current CPUs. How many cores do you need for freecell, word and internet explorer? The AVERAGE user doesn't need a 8 threaded 920 or a six core AMD but people will buy them because.

I'm not knocking it. Hell, I'm curious myself and tempted to try one out just to see how they fare.

The avg. person doesn't buy i7920 or Thuban. FWIU most people are still buying Pentiums, actually.

A lot of gamers are already asking how much will Phenom II X6 improve my performance in so and so game over Phenom II X4, and a number of the games their asking about a Phenom II X2 performs just as well as Phenom II X4. I get the feeling forums will be flooded with angry buyers asking why they don't get any more fps than they did before. People will just assume more cores = more powerful.

I personally want to get one and mess with it, but I would actually have use for one due to my usage with 3ds max and other software.

As you have shown, it's not all about games. Max, and other rendering applications, can use all of the cores you can throw at them. So can other productivity programs. Not just use them, but make good use of them. I find it really amusing that people believe if it won't make their games run faster then they don't need it. Multi-core/multi-thread processors weren't designed so people can increase their frame rates while gaming. LOL

 

[Voo]

It's still the same with current CPUs. How many cores do you need for freecell, word and internet explorer? The AVERAGE user doesn't need a 8 threaded 920 or a six core AMD but people will buy them because.

Too bad that the average user doesn't need a 40 stages pipeline 5ghz monster with bad IPC and horrendous branch misprediction penalty and Co either

GHz aren't better or worse than number of cores or other simple metrics they all say almost nothing about the CPU, so who can blame anyone for throwing those numbers around? Those small core2s with <3Ghz are probably the best CPU for most people, but you don't make huge profits with selling 3year old hardware..

@3DVagabond: Yeah the gigantic rendering hobbyist market, that's .5&#37; of the market? For rendering the holiday vids twice per year you probalby can live with it taking an hour longer

I'd make any bet that at least 1/2 of all people who've bought desktop PCs in the last two years have bought something vastly overpowered for their needs.

 

[grimpr]

Max and the major render apps like Maxons Cinema 4D, are optimized for Intels architecture, its cpus and and their extensions, AMD doesnt and will never have a chance there even with todays MCs 12 cores against a Gulftown and probably tomorrows 16core Bulldozer against an 8 core Sandy Bridge. I expect a 1055T go against i5 750, coming out strong in good threaded apps, and the top bin going against a Bloomfield 920/930.

 

[Markfw]

http://www.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=23027

just speculation, but at $300 who can say no, but I am over here in the UK so could be about &#163;250 sweet

When I visited last summer, the exchange rate was $1.96 US = 1 pound. If that still holds true, wouldn't that be 150 ?

Edit:, Now its $1.50, I should have gone this year.....so $200 for you ??

 

[james 1]

When I visited last summer, the exchange rate was $1.96 US = 1 pound. If that still holds true, wouldn't that be 150 ?

i wish that was true but its never the story over here, i remember when the i7 920 came out they cost about &#163;240 and i don't know the story in the US but i am assuming they were about $300, so we never get the exact price exchange plus the pound has really taken a beating i know for fact its not at that exchange rate any more

1 British pound = 1.50900 U.S. dollars

 

[StinkyPinky]

When I visited last summer, the exchange rate was $1.96 US = 1 pound. If that still holds true, wouldn't that be 150 ?

Edit:, Now its $1.50, I should have gone this year.....so $200 for you ??

Speaking as someone who has lived in most other English speaking countries...the US is the cheapest when it comes to costs of electronic goods. Except for high speed internet.

Probably a different story when compared to some high tech asian countries though.

 

[Gikaseixas]

It will most likely work with 790FX boards but i think it would be better to pair it with a 890FX (soon to be released). Six cores @ 3.2 with turbo @ 3.6 sounds like it will give Intel a few problems , looking forward to the reviews.

 

[Gillbot]

The avg. person doesn't buy i7920 or Thuban. FWIU most people are still buying Pentiums, actually.



As you have shown, it's not all about games. Max, and other rendering applications, can use all of the cores you can throw at them. So can other productivity programs. Not just use them, but make good use of them. I find it really amusing that people believe if it won't make their games run faster then they don't need it. Multi-core/multi-thread processors weren't designed so people can increase their frame rates while gaming. LOL

Oh how you are mistaken there. My mom was about 1 click away from grabbing a 920 based rig from Dell before I put the brakes on it. Sales people push the unknowing into buying the "latest and greatest" even if they don't need it.

 

[Gikaseixas]

Oh how you are mistaken there. My mom was about 1 click away from grabbing a 920 based rig from Dell before I put the brakes on it. Sales people push the unknowing into buying the "latest and greatest" even if they don't need it.

I worked at Best Buy back in 2006 and budget PC's where always sold out. The high end PC usually collected dust and was much harder to sell. Sometimes a seller can be convincing enough and sell a high end PC but that's 10% or even less of all PC's sold.

 

[grimpr]

Cinebench R10 run on a 200$ X6 1055T.

http://i41.tinypic.com/24yxm60.jpg

 

[Gikaseixas]

Speaking as someone who has lived in most other English speaking countries...the US is the cheapest when it comes to costs of electronic goods. Except for high speed internet.

Probably a different story when compared to some high tech asian countries though.

I went to Portugal (Europe), Emirate Arab United (Asia) and South Africa (duh) last year and was shocked with the prices in those countries. US is king when it comes to buying electronics.

 

[VirtualLarry]

Oh how you are mistaken there. My mom was about 1 click away from grabbing a 920 based rig from Dell before I put the brakes on it. Sales people push the unknowing into buying the "latest and greatest" even if they don't need it.

So why doesn't Mom deserve an i7???

 

[BD231]

I wonder if these things will be multiplier unlocked, there would be absolutely no point in buying anything higher than the 2.8ghz part if these new chips scale as well as the C3 Phenom II.

 

[heyheybooboo]

Gigabyte 785g AM2+ -- BIOS F8 for Thubans ...

I'm not quite prepared to jump at the high end but will be interested in something like the Phenom II X6 1035T 95w at 2.6GHz if the Vegas benchies look 'pretty'





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[LoneNinja]

Gigabyte 785g AM2+ -- BIOS F8 for Thubans ...




I'm not quite prepared to jump at the high end but will be interested in something like the Phenom II X6 1035T 95w at 2.6GHz if the Vegas benchies look 'pretty'





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Sweet, that's the exact motherboard I'm currently using to type this. I expected my 790GX board's BIOS to stay more up to date than this 780G, but I guess BIOSTAR doesn't update as much as Gigabyte.

 

[frostedflakes]

Same board I have as well, nice to know there will be a 6-core upgrade path. And that's part of the reason I went with Gigabyte for my latest build, they seem to be better than most about releasing BIOS updates to support newer CPUs.

Now what would be awesome is if AMD included a DDR2 controller on Bulldozer for backward compatibility. Not holding my breath for this, but hey, a guy can hope.