AMD K6-2+ 450MHz $35 + shipping - DEAL IS BACK?

[jayR]

This is the + processor made for laptops that runs @ 2V.
Check your mobo will support it before buying. These cpus are known to be very OC'able with minimal cooling.

It is similar to the K6-3+ with 1/2 the L2 cache.
According to a recent AT article the K6-2 with L2 cache is almost as fast as the K6-3. The extra cache of the K6-3 only helps marginally.

www.tigerdirect.com

EDIT:
It appears that tigerdirect is trying to get more. In the availability column it says, "Often ships within 2 weeks".
Hmmm... "Often"?

 

[JoeFoster]

Is this the best price for this with shipping?

 

[RobsTV]

Thanks for the heads up.
Shipping came to $6.77, and Florida tax was $2.51, total delivered $44.27

After reading Anandtechs article:
Super7 Upgrade Guide: The K6-2+ and K6-3+ Processors
This looks like what I need for that extra little life in the wifes SS7.
Currently running a K6-III 400@448, in a FIC 503A, V3 3K or GF2 MX.
The ability to run 550MHz or 600MHz, will be an improvement.
Have a couple older SS7 boards with no CPU, and some friends still running Cyrix 166's, so the K6-III will find a new home, and hopefully the K6-2+ will end up costing notta.

Still, not a good deal if you need to upgrade motherboard too, as you can now get a SocketA motherboard and a Duron @ 935MHz, for around $150 total.

 

[laugh]

I paid the same amount for a new Duron 700 which aims at 1GHz.

 

[longhorn]

Everytime someone comes up with a deal for a socket-7 or
socket-370 processor, someone chimes in with "Yea, but
I bought a Duron for about that, and it will do a Ghz."

I am happy for you. I hope you enjoy your Duron for many
years.

However, for those that own an older computer that is running
out of steam, getting a quick speed boost for $50.00 is
a hot deal. The computers being upgraded are not running
Half-Life or Quake III. They're being used for email, web
browsing, and Quicken. To upgrade my Mom's computer
to that Duron would take:

1) A new motherboard
2) New memory (can't use that old 72 pin stuff)
3) A new video card (she could use that old PCI Virge,
but what would be the point)
4) A new modem (maybe she could use the old ISA one,
depends on the motherboard)
5) A new case (Don't think I can find at AT form
factor motherboard for the Duron)
6) A new soundcard (same problem with the ISA)

This would be at least $200, and possibly quite a bit more.

My mainline system is an overclocked Duron. I think most
of us who are smart enough to replace a socket-7 processor
know how much a Duron costs, and what it can do. Why people
feel obligated to point out the value of a Duron to such
posts is beyond me.

There, I feel much better now that I got that off my chest.

 

[jayR]

JoeFoster:
It's hard to find these anywhere, but I haven't seen them for less than $45 + shipping before. Cheaper than anything on pricewatch.

longhorn:
I hear ya. Some people gotta say something, no matter how stupid it is.

 

[Bob/NYC]

Luckily I got 3 K6-III+ 450s and I got all 3 to run at 600Mhz-week 25-2000. 2x=6x, but these won't work on all/old board. Since I'm not a gamer, just an mp3 ripper...I'm set for year(s). The on board cache makes a huge difference.

 

[SimMike2]

I completely agree with Longhorn. While the Duron is an outstanding deal, for most people looking for a cheap upgrade to their super 7 computer, it isn't a good deal. This is because at minimum it would take a new mainboard. Many people would need new ram and a new case/power supply. So much for spending under $50 on a decent upgrade.

BTW, I run a K6-3+ 450 at 600 MHz using 2.1 volts and a cheapo heatsink/fan. This system runs stable and cool. My mainboard only has 5.5 as the highest multiplier, so I use the 2X setting, which the CPU interprets as 6X.

 

[abovewood]

K6-3/3+/2+ are much better than K6-2, and are the best you can go with S7/SS7 boards. not bad for a quick upgrade.

For those that use Celeron 550 and K6-3+ 550, which do you like better?
Celeron 550 was better for me at the time.

 

[RobsTV]

What longhorn says is very true.
Right as we speak, I am doing an upgrade for my bother's SS7.
He had a FIC 503+, K6-2 300@392, AT case, ISA sound blaster, ISA 56k, ISA 2nd printer port.

Cost for Abit KT7A, Duron 750@1Ghz, ATX case, CPU fan, SB Live PCI card, came to $316 "shipped", using the cheapest places you could get this stuff from. I swapped modems with him, otherwise you would have to add that as well. 1 ISA slot is the most you get with Socket A. Luckily, he bought a 40Gig ATA 100 drive and GF2 MX card 2 weeks prior (another $220), and 128meg PC150 ram ($60) 1 couple weeks before that.

Cheapest cost to upgrade: $316 + modem.
True Duron upgrade cost: $596 + modem.

$40 for a K6-2+ will perhaps give you a 20%-30% boost over a K6-2 400.
$316 Duron upgrade will perhaps run 2 to 3 times faster, at 8 times the cost, "if" you have a high end video card as well. Don't forget that most SS7 users have old video cards. You won't find many GF2 GTS, Voodoo5's, or Radeon's in these systems. Without a fast video card, you lose much of the gain the Duron gives you.

 

[BadMuleS]

well this is a forum for hotdeals.... flames are fine as long as they are legitimit.. i dont think its hot either.... but to each his own i guess?

 

[lostatlantis]

ok, i am running a retail K6-2 500 (not +) OCed to 550Mhz complete stable, stock voltage. Should I get this K6-2+ or not? Will I see any real performance boost? I am running a 1MB L2 cache mobo with 128MB of PC100 CL2 RAM. The Tyan board won't go past 100Mhz FSB.

 

[Bob/NYC]

Yes since it's cheap and because of the internal cache. These are .18 micron, not .25 and I run cool @600...although I have 256K L2 with the K6-3+s. I have the mobo compat list, if needed.

 

[SimMike2]

IMHO, upgrading from a K6-2 running at 550, to a K6-2+ running at either 550 or 600 is not worth the upgrade.

 

[LittleWolf]

Do you think upgrading from a K6-350 to this K6+450 might show a good speed diff ?

TIA

 

[Lex Luthor]

For whoever wants to know about the benefits of a K6 3/2+/3+, take a look at this board. Some experts on the subject in this forum who will help you.

AMDZone K6x forum

I personally went from a K6-2 333 to a K6-3 450 and it was a real BIG jump for a low price! I have found that the K6-2+/3+ is more or less no faster at all then my K6-3, so I'm sticking with it. For daily use (non-games), I can hold my own with a P3 at the same clock and my system is 4 years old.

So any discussions about K6-2+/3+ are indeed hot deals to people with older pcs.

Lex

 

[RobsTV]

While a K6-III and a K6-2+/3+ may run fairly equal, the overclocking is what seperates the + from the others. All of us Duron owners know very well how great .18 overclocks. Getting 600Mhz out of a 450Mhz is a 33% increase. Can't do anthing near that with the original K6-III's, as 10% is about all they will do. Another factor that actually helps is the smaller cache on the K6-2+ compared to the K6-III. Just like with the Duron's and T-birds, extra cache must be overclocked too, and smaller cache equals higher overclocking.

 

[Caitiff]

Well, I went from a K6-2 450 to a K6-2+ 450, and thought it was the best thing I'd done for the money. I DO play games, and even w/ an old Velocity 100 card (1/2 of a V32K for you uninformed few), my K6-2+ at 600 does a fine job! Granted, I only play at 800x600, but what the hey?! My 3DMark scores jumped a HUGE ammt going from the older chip to the newer, and it runs waaaaay cooler. Considering that I've been using this system for over 2 years now w/ a very minimal investment in money, I can't complain. Nuff said.

 

[ObviousMan]

Please forgive me my ignorance. I am interested in upgrade like this.
I have FIC 503+ Rev 1.0 FIC Web site states that PCB below 1.2A will not support K6-2 over 400 MHZ. The board supports many voltages and multipliers. I'd appreciate if someone who's seen the info if that Rev. will take and OC K6-2+ 450.
Thanks.

 

[Bob/NYC]

I don't know where this info sheet came from, but it worked on my DFI AT Linux server-the DFI BIOS part. You might be SOL :-((
-------------------------------clip-------------------
FIC -
FIC VA-503+ V1.2A Use beta bios version JE4330 or Je4331 (for use with windows ME).
You can find these beta bios version's on the FIC tiwian site.
FIC VA-503-A (bios jn4116)
FIC PA2013: I have heard success stories and reports of problems. i'll try get more!
FIC PA-2007 "will run a k6lll+. Max speed 450, 6x75. Recognized as 486dx-s @66.
Using Bios1.13cd13, newer cd415 should work also. Using Rawpower to enable everything."
ftp://ftp.fic.com.tw/bios/motherboards/socket7/va-503a/
------------------------------clip----------------------

 

[CentralScrutinizer]

I have a k6-3+ 450 running at 600 at 2.1v on my FIC 503+

Got it from Tigerdirect, in fact, in late December.

k6-2+ also work.

If you have a 503+, you'd better grab this chip now. It may soon disappear, like the k6-3+ did.........

 

[SimMike2]

One further point, the K6-2/3+ chips have added 3D Now instruction sets that were introduced with the Athlon chips. So this is one further difference between the original K6-2/3 chips, which only have the original 3D Now stuff.

 

[sitka]

Well you guys convinced me.....

Called Tiger Direct and they were out of 450+'s, guy said it would be two weeks but I figured that wasn't going to happen. They had the 475+ for $50 so I got one of those, hope they are OK.

CentralScrutinizer with his trailing warning really put the nail in the coffin...

One more time....IS the move from K2333 to KS475+ worth it? <insert crowd response here>

 

[macssuck]

Could you recommend a good fan for this chip?

 

[CentralScrutinizer]

Sika, It was worth The $50 bucks. In fact, My 450+ replaced a K6-2 550 which I sold on e-bay for $70. I netted $20 on the exchange and increased my 3dMark scores 50% at 600 vs. the k6-2 550.

As for the fan, use can usa a cheap socket 7 fan - the beauty of these chips is the run supercool, even when overclocked. I have a nice antec fan on mine. You could pick one up from Onvia.com shipped for $8.45 shipped.

Real Nice Antec Socket 7 fan