That isn't how reviews are done. Everything should be bone stock to eliminate any variables.
That isn't how reviews are done. Everything should be bone stock to eliminate any variables.I disagree. If Intel or AMD send their CPU with a high end Intel Z370 or AMD X470 chipset board with auto overclocking turned on by default in BIOS to reviewers its ok as long as the power consumption results too are measured with the auto OC on. If the user does not like the settings he can turn auto OC off and manually tweak clock and voltage. btw the whole purpose of high end motherboards is to push the CPU to its highest perf, within safety limits though. The option of auto OC vs manual OC is still with the user. Ideally the reviewer should post stock and auto OC perf and power results to provide the user with the information needed to go with one of them.
He did not perform OC, Now if those 5-8 % gains of 2700X over stock are real as said by CPC, this chip is a good improvement over Ryzen Gen 1.
This is quite funny because whenever Intel is going to release a new CPU with a merely 5-8% improvement everyone is blaming them for their laziness and poor improvement rate, especially when it's paired with an increase in power consumption!
NPRP bioses are required to have such features disabled.
GamersNexus said:Then, after digging through old flash drives and trying to find revision F2, which shipped on the motherboard for review, we found the culprit: There is no MCE option in this BIOS revision, and although Gigabyte did later embrace that MCE should be disabled by default, the initial BIOS revision had no MCE option and MCE enabled, silently, by default. There was no way to disable MCE in BIOS revision F2. It was not possible to turn MCE off.
I got 165p with 3200MHz RAM at 4GHz in CB R15 ST. I would expect ~180p at 4.35GHz, anyway not claiming that he is a liar, maybe there are just few problems with XFR and X370.
A previous leak reported 178p in Cinebench at 4.35 Ghz on X370 Gaming ITX:
https://hothardware.com/news/amd-ry...r-benchmarks-leak-435ghz-turbo-clock-achieved
Precision Boost Overdrive is an official supported feature within the safety margins of correct operation?
I do agree in the sense that, it was stupid marketing to call Ryzen 2xxx a "tock",when in all fairness it's very similar to an average Intel "tick" in performance albeit with a smaller process shrink ( and definitely less than Ivy Bridge, in architecture ,which was called "tick+"). Perhaps AMD expected more of the process, Say 4.0/4.5?This is quite funny because whenever Intel is going to release a new CPU with a merely 5-8% improvement everyone is blaming them for their laziness and poor improvement rate, especially when it's paired with an increase in power consumption!
This looks very very good and pretty much what i was hoping for (for at least some improvement in memory OC). The 3600 CL14 was unstable in Cinebench though, but that might have been because of low SOC voltage.DisEnchantment said:Memory Latency at 60.8 ns with 3600 CL14
Looks that way. Something above 4970K and slightly below 6700K or 8600K. The scores are close enough though so milage might vary.So, Ryzen 7 2700X has Cinebench R15 single thread that's close to of those of Core i5-8600K?
From the guy who did the OC test.good morning
Yesterday after the tests I discovered why the pc crashed
The corsair h90 pump was at minimum speed
This morning I'm re-testing now I can stay stable at 4250mhz to the core
with 1.38v
An excellent result for my expectations
With a custom heatsink, I think 4300-4350mhz (all core) is possible (silicon lottery)
In default (4350-4375mhz) voltages are over 1.5v, I do not like to use too much voltage
Also consider that the gigabyte bios for this cpu does not exist
With new bios, with 3600mhz ram support and over , we will have incredible boost.
My ram is 3200 c14 but can also go to 3600 c14.14.14 without problems
To be correct ,I'm not under NDA, I have not signed anything, so I can do what I want
voglio
So, Ryzen 7 2700X has Cinebench R15 single thread that's close to of those of Core i5-8600K?
Unless the process improves 4.5 isn't very likely IMO. Considering the Italian overclocker experience 4.25-4.3 Is the most probable with <= 1.39V. I might see some golden samples or Threadripper chips hit 4.5 GHz (with similar voltages people are using to hit 4.2 on current Threadripper), but that won't be common.Who here thinks 4.5GHz is a real possibility (with sensible voltage), or do you expect closer to 4.3GHz? Of course time will tell, just asking for your predictions
Maybe on second generation Threadrippers. People with 1900Xs and others already achieve 4.2GHz on all cores and I think I've even seen some do 4.3GHz. I think most 2700Xs will do 4.3GHz or below, lucky ones will go a bit further, perhaps. I wonder how far the 2600 and 2700 will OC...Who here thinks 4.5GHz is a real possibility (with sensible voltage), or do you expect closer to 4.3GHz? Of course time will tell, just asking for your predictions
Unless the process improves 4.5 isn't very likely IMO. Considering the Italian overclocker experience 4.25-4.3 Is the most probable with <= 1.39V. I might see some golden samples or Threadripper chips hit 4.5 GHz (with similar voltages people are using to hit 4.2 on current Threadripper), but that won't be common.
I'm also pretty sure, that if the process matures and a newer stepping by some miracle is able to reach 4.5 Ghz OC, we'll also see a 2800X with similar turbo clocks.
Maybe they won't do it this time, to avoid sales cannibalization.
You will most likely not see a 7nm Ryzen before late Q2 2019. If a new stepping can bump up max clocks by even 200 Mhz it might be well worth it against the upcoming 8C CFL which will be a OC monster capable of 5 Ghz.Would it make sense for GloFo to keep developing the 12 nm node, when they have 7 nm so close? Almost like 6-9 months from now assuming its not a repeat of their earlier process migration.
I am actually expecting an AT article like this one to pop up
Maybe they won't do it this time, to avoid sales cannibalization.
The Zen articles from AT were really interesting. Looking forward to the juicy writeup for the new micro arch.
Maybe on second generation Threadrippers. People with 1900Xs and others already achieve 4.2GHz on all cores and I think I've even seen some do 4.3GHz. I think most 2700Xs will do 4.3GHz or below, lucky ones will go a bit further, perhaps. I wonder how far the 2600 and 2700 will OC...
I am still really interested in the RAM support and how the lower latencies will affect performance.
Would it make sense for GloFo to keep developing the 12 nm node, when they have 7 nm so close? Almost like 6-9 months from now assuming its not a repeat of their earlier process migration.
I would love to see 5GHz and 4000MT/s dram on ryzen.These frequencies are amazing! With it tuned like this I think it'd make a lot of sense to have native dual core die APU. Something like 2c/4t and ~6CU, which I think would be close to minimum die practical area ~110 mm2.
Depends on your definition of 'close'. Just for reference I did a 4.3GHz CB ST run on my 6700K and got 190, so Ryzen 7 2700 is within ~7% of Sky/Kaby/CFL clock for clock, at least in Cinebench, that's quite impressive actually.
Who here thinks 4.5GHz is a real possibility (with sensible voltage), or do you expect closer to 4.3GHz? Of course time will tell, just asking for your predictions