Defective vega , the 1500x and the 1300x may turn out to be harvested apu's with a disabled because of too many defects gpu part.
And some harvested "ordinary" ryzen cpu's.
What seems curious (to me anyway) is the refusal to ditch the Ryzen 5 1500X and Ryzen 3 1300X.
Why are they still there?
Defective vega , the 1500x and the 1300x may turn out to be harvested apu's with a disabled because of too many defects gpu part.
And some harvested "ordinary" ryzen cpu's.
Nope.
Raven has half the PCI-E links of Zeppelin so that won't work.
Hmmm. Forgot about that...
Being a bit extreme in thinking : Maybe they have some way to reroute internal signals to pins.
Since the cpu and apu already have pins that have multi functionality depending on internal multiplexers.
Similar to embedded microcontrollers have for example I2S,SPI, I2C, uart or ethernet RMII or just a parallel port.
But it is a wild guess.
It's not matter of pins but the PCIe Phy inside the core.
Zeppelin has twice the lanes in it's Phy, so unless AMD updates the specs then using Raven won't fly.
More likely EPYC. They stated that TR2 will come 2H this year using Pinnacle Ridge. Their EPYC roadmap shows Zen2 based follow on for the next EPYC. So, they need to build current Zeppelin based EPYC for a while to supply EPYC customers for the next couple of years at least.Maybe they are keeping a line running for threadripper and the will ditch some of the defective core parts in old style Ryzen 5/3?
What seems curious (to me anyway) is the refusal to ditch the Ryzen 5 1500X and Ryzen 3 1300X.
Why are they still there?
Most likely just transitional parts until 12nm production is at full volume.
What seems curious (to me anyway) is the refusal to ditch the Ryzen 5 1500X and Ryzen 3 1300X.
Why are they still there?
To all PC enthusiast: just wait AMD official Ryzen 2 presentation. Leaked slides are not true.
Not sure how much room those 2700x have for overclocking though. The fact that it turbos to 4.35 may be telling, that's quite the precise number. Not 4.3 or 4.4
How many people buying the 2700x are going to run it at stock clocks? Not trolling, just wondering.
I would be overclocking that thing to the limits of the included cooler, regardless of power consumption.
If the 2700x is anything like the 1800x, very few people will buy it for overclocking. The next bin down will be where overclockers hit the sweet spot.
Well, this time around, Ryzen 7 2700X comes with a better cooler than Ryzen 7 2700 (instead of no cooler at all).
The better cooler is a good reason for to justify an extra $30-$40, but $70 is a little too much.
So from what I've read, the 2700 & 2700X won't have the same graphics chip as the 2400G
Yes, further up the page we are discussing that, and I mentioned it was a nice change, making the X CPUs more desirable.
Not just a HSF, but a fairly nice one.
This is kind of the hard choices you have to to in sales and marketing. Personally I say not supplying a cooler with the X or K versions is not a bad thing. A lot of people buying these CPUs will have their own cooler already and hence the supplied one will go in the trash bin. Just not very environment friendly.
I would like X and K version without a cooler but with a smaller price difference to the non-x or non-k version. Pay $20 more to get a faster CPU but you also need to buy a cooler.
How many people buying the 2700x are going to run it at stock clocks? Not trolling, just wondering.
I would be overclocking that thing to the limits of the included cooler, regardless of power consumption.