I probably would these days. I'm not that into overclocking anymore and feel like its not worth losing other features of the cpu over. AMD and even Intel to an extent run their chips a lot closer to the top overclock to start with making the whole exercise kind of a waste of time IMO. If you like overclocking for the sake of overclocking I understand that but it looks the money saving part has been monetized out of existence to me.
Wanting to pay only $20 more for the faster chip is just wishful thinking. That isn't any kind of reasonable segmentation.
it is because you also need to spend $40 at least on a cooler.
I probably would these days. I'm not that into overclocking anymore and feel like its not worth losing other features of the cpu over. AMD and even Intel to an extent run their chips a lot closer to the top overclock to start with making the whole exercise kind of a waste of time IMO. If you like overclocking for the sake of overclocking I understand that but it looks the money saving part has been monetized out of existence to me.
Does anyone else think these slides are fake? I kinda feel they are...
I am on the fence about getting a 2700 and board, as the current 1700 has 4 x 8GB at 2400 low timings.
Unless RAM prices drop and 2 x 16GB kits can be had for a reasonable price.
Overclocking the Intel has been really easy while maintaining idle power saving. It doesn't seem to be the case with Ryzen so I wouldn't bother. On top of that 2700X is likely pretty much maxed out out of the box.
Raven Ridge dies are unusable to replace those SKU's due to the PCI-E differences. They're also not going to be as fast as Pinnacle Ridge per clock and per core. Memory overclocking is also inferior to Pinnacle Ridge.It seems questionable that AMD would take Pinnacle Ridge dies and disabled half the cores so that they can be sold as quad-core parts, now that AMD has Raven Ridge dies.
Pinnacle Ridge AGESA (which is rolling out to all AM4 motherboards these days in preparation for Ryzen 2000 series launch) has fixed pstates, you can set them to whatever you want in BIOS. Then you can enable cstates (should be enabled by default, but it doesn't hurt to force them on) to let the hardware properly idle, and use an appropriate power plan in Windows.
Here's the result:
- P0 is set to 3.8GHz and 1.375v (no LLC, droops down to ~1.31v under P95 AVX small FFTs load)
- vSOC is set to 1.1v to support 3466MHz memory speed
- Ryzen Balanced power plan with CPU idle speed set to 0% instead of 90% because I'd like to let Windows use the entire clock speed range
See, proper idle (hwinfo managed to "detect" P3 at 0.4v) with overclocked speeds. You could more or less get the same result since launch day on the C6H with voltage offsets and other workarounds, but thankfully now it's much simpler and can be done on every board as far as I'm aware.
Anyway, having cstates enabled lets Ryzen take control of power management all by itself and that's what you want to do in this platform. Entering OC mode doesn't disable power savings.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/6w793f/how_to_reduce_idle_clock_speed_on_a_manually/
I'm old fashioned and that's why I take that 90% idle down to 0%, but it's not needed.
Obviously, power management this advanced is miles ahead of any faildozer part ever made, and Pinnacle Ridge is probably going to make even more improvements in this area.
I don't think he was talking about labeling an RR as just a 1200-1500x. I think the point was that by having a cost effective APU, with 4 cores, AMD target those for low end sales and forgo offering PR in a 4c solution. You would lose 8 PCIe lanes but gain a competent iGPU. Though since it caps out at 2400G I would suggest that they are leaving themselves open for a 1500/1500x option as the lowest end PR.Raven Ridge dies are unusable to replace those SKU's due to the PCI-E differences. They're also not going to be as fast as Pinnacle Ridge per clock and per core. Memory overclocking is also inferior to Pinnacle Ridge.
They're just clearing stocks at this point. 1300X and 1500X are probably the least popular items in stock right now, so they want to get rid of them. The 1600 while popular, was produced in the greatest quantities of any CPU in the lineup due to popularity, so it's staying for now for stock clearing.
If you like overclocking for the sake of overclocking I understand that but it looks the money saving part has been monetized out of existence to me.
Sisoftware accidentally published their testing of the 2700X, and they took it down. Luckily I saved all the images and the HTML pages.
https://imgur.com/a/HxO7b
Here are the image results.
And here are the HTML pages: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1QOEB_UWmsKPir4Y5aRuh5bG89WKmhXhT/view
This is probably the most beautiful stock cooler ever
I don't care what it looks like, but what it performs like. Hopefully some of the 2700X reviews compare the Prism to a popular Air coolers.
This is probably the most beautiful stock cooler ever
Seems perfectly logical to me. Thats almost exactly like the other HSF's that AMD has done lately. And the rest of the industry.A return to heatpipes and clips? Huh? I wonder if that slide is true or not, seems potentially fake.