AMD NEW A-Series APUs

Gigantopithecus

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Nah. The mobile models aren't much of an improvement over existing APUs; you're not missing much by sticking with what you have.

The real excitement is the unlocked models that are being released for the desktop. They're still slightly overpriced IMHO, but I'm glad they broke the 3GHz psychological threshold - and they should overclock quite well and be great chips for a lot of users.
 

tweakboy

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Im really tired of how AMD and Intel have freakin 53 different processor chips.

My gosh,,, Life was soo simple in the Pentium 2 and 3 and 4 days. Everyone had the same CPU and it was even ground for consumers and business users and casual users and gamers and DAW or Video Editing,,,,

I mean do we really need these nick names .. Sandy ,,, fak Sandy and Cindy,,,

Instead of making 53 different CPUs ,, AMD and Intel should get their heads out of their keesters and give us more cores, Because I need it for my DAW ,,, and Sandy isnt even enough with HT 8 cores,, I need 16 cores 32 threads and 64GB RAM ,,, thx gl these are all my opinions,, thank you and gb,, For now Im set until 2020 when I get the 32 threaded desktop beast HEHEH,, with a 1TB SSD @ 1000mbps hehe,, Ive Bridge, who cares its 10 percent faster, gosh you will never notice speeds unless you do benchmarks,,,, or you time your video rendering,,, On my dads Sandy 4.2Ghz 16GB ram SSD 120GB A-DATA sata 3, it takes

One hour and a half to render a 1 hour movie. More cores means cut that time in half and less Pentium 2 took 3 days to render,,,,, Weve come far,,,, but we can go further,,, AMD and Intel just want your money and to release something new every 2 months sheez,, thx gl
 
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Olikan

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god no...wait for trinity or ivy bridge

is just 2 to 3 month ahead, but a great performance boost
 

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Im really tired of how AMD and Intel have freakin 53 different processor chips.

My gosh,,, Life was soo simple in the Pentium 2 and 3 and 4 days. Everyone had the same CPU and it was even ground for consumers and business users and casual users and gamers and DAW or Video Editing,,,,

I mean do we really need these nick names .. Sandy ,,, fak Sandy and Cindy,,,

:biggrin::biggrin::biggrin::biggrin::biggrin::biggrin::biggrin: Well Said!
 

Smartazz

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Tweakboy, most users would benefit more from better IPC and faster clock speeds than they would from more cores.
 

podspi

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Isn't the 'K' a nod towards the Black Edition name? I do find it weird AMD is moving over to something that looks suspiciously similar to Intel's naming system.


Anyway, if I understand correctly these are only partially unlocked? Lame! I'm still fuzzy on whether bus overclocking actually works on Llano or not (or whether it just messes up the clock which causes misreporting).
 

Soulkeeper

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"partially unlocked" WTF !?
they just can't screw us often enough it seems

Maybe this is why the "unlocked" versions took so long to make it to market. They were busy thinking of and implementing another way to screw us.
 
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frostedflakes

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Yeah partially unlocked is pretty lame, looks like you only get 5 multipliers above stock for the CPU and 2 above stock for the GPU. Along with bus overclocking it should allow people hit higher clocks than they would be able to with the old non-K Llano, but would be nicer to have a wider range of multipliers, especially if these things OC as good as some early reports suggest, such as Athlon II X4 631 hitting like 4.4-4.7 at stock voltage on that MSI board with lab burst mode.

Kind of makes you wonder if they gimped OCing potential on these for fear of fully unlocked and highly overclockable Llano chips cannibalizing quad core and hex core Bulldozer sales. With the higher IPC and great overclocking potential, they could be more appealing budget CPUs.
 

Soulkeeper

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Yeah partially unlocked is pretty lame, looks like you only get 5 multipliers above stock for the CPU and 2 above stock for the GPU. Along with bus overclocking it should allow people hit higher clocks than they would be able to with the old non-K Llano, but would be nicer to have a wider range of multipliers, especially if these things OC as good as some early reports suggest, such as Athlon II X4 631 hitting like 4.4-4.7 at stock voltage on that MSI board with lab burst mode.

Kind of makes you wonder if they gimped OCing potential on these for fear of fully unlocked and highly overclockable Llano chips cannibalizing quad core and hex core Bulldozer sales. With the higher IPC and great overclocking potential, they could be more appealing budget CPUs.

I think that's exactly what they did, gimped them on purpose.
for those of us with llano motherboards that don't allow any fsb overclocking (lack of dividers on all itx and other boards) we'll be stuck at 3.5GHz with these K series llanos
 

RyanGreener

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Yeah partially unlocked is pretty lame, looks like you only get 5 multipliers above stock for the CPU and 2 above stock for the GPU. Along with bus overclocking it should allow people hit higher clocks than they would be able to with the old non-K Llano, but would be nicer to have a wider range of multipliers, especially if these things OC as good as some early reports suggest, such as Athlon II X4 631 hitting like 4.4-4.7 at stock voltage on that MSI board with lab burst mode.

Kind of makes you wonder if they gimped OCing potential on these for fear of fully unlocked and highly overclockable Llano chips cannibalizing quad core and hex core Bulldozer sales. With the higher IPC and great overclocking potential, they could be more appealing budget CPUs.

Lab burst mode + OCing was proven to be a fake way to increase performance.....if you do the typical 133 FSB and +5x multiplier, the highest frequency you can typically get with adequate cooling would be 4.357 GHz. lol. Not bad.
 

Soulkeeper

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01-29-2012 is listed as the ETA now on shopblt
I guess we've got another 1+ month to go waiting for these partially unlocked llanos
 

MadRat

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Im really tired of how AMD and Intel have freakin 53 different processor chips.

No kidding, just look at AMD's OPTERON offerings since 2009 alone.

Opteron 1300 family ("Suzuka" 45 nm)
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Opteron 1389
Opteron 1385
Opteron 1381
Opteron 13KS
Opteron 13QS

Opteron 2300 family ("Shanghai" 45 nm)
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Opteron 2393 SE
Opteron 2389
Opteron 2387
Opteron 2386 SE
Opteron 2384
Opteron 2382
Opteron 2381 HE
Opteron 2380
Opteron 2379 HE
Opteron 2378
Opteron 2377 EE
Opteron 2376 HE
Opteron 2374 HE
Opteron 2373 EE
Opteron 2372 HE
Opteron 23VS
Opteron 23QS HE
Opteron 23KS EE

Opteron 2400 family ("Istanbul" 45 nm)
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Opteron 2439 SE
Opteron 2435
Opteron 2431
Opteron 2427
Opteron 2425 HE
Opteron 2423 HE
Opteron 2419 EE

Opteron 4100 family ("Lisbon" 45 nm)
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Opteron 4184
Opteron 4180
Opteron 4176 HE
Opteron 4174 HE
Opteron 4170 HE
Opteron 4164 EE
Opteron 4162 EE
Opteron 4130
Opteron 4122
Opteron 41QS HE
Opteron 41LE HE
Opteron 41KX HE
Opteron 41GL EE

Opteron 4200 family (Valencia" 32 nm)
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Opteron 4284
Opteron 4280
Opteron 4274 HE
Opteron 4256 EE
Opteron 4238
Opteron 4234
Opteron 4228 HE
Opteron 4226

Opteron 6100 family ("Magny-Cours" 45 nm)
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Opteron 6180 SE
Opteron 6176 SE
Opteron 6176
Opteron 6174
Opteron 6172
Opteron 6168
Opteron 6166 HE
Opteron 6164 HE
Opteron 6140
Opteron 6136
Opteron 6134
Opteron 6132 HE
Opteron 6128 HE
Opteron 6128
Opteron 6124 HE
Opteron 61QS
Opteron 61KS

Opteron 6200 family ("Interlagos" 32 nm)
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6282 SE
6276
6274
6272
6262 HE
6238
6234
6220
6212
6204

Opteron 8300 family (Shanghai" 45 nm)
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Opteron 8393 SE
Opteron 8389
Opteron 8387
Opteron 8386 SE
Opteron 8384
Opteron 8382
Opteron 8381 HE
Opteron 8380
Opteron 8379 HE
Opteron 8378
Opteron 8376 HE
Opteron 8374 HE
Opteron 83VS
Opteron 83QS HE

Opteron 8400 family ("Istanbul" 45 nm)
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Opteron 8439SE
Opteron 8435
Opteron 8431
Opteron 8425HE

FX family
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FX 8170
FX 8150
FX 8120
FX 8100
FX 6120
FX 6100
FX 4170
FX B4150
FX 4120
FX 4100

Good luck with discerning one model from the next according to the model numbers. :O
 
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Idontcare

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This is the computer age, are we really worried about not be able to hold a mental version of the processor lookup and reference tables in our heads versus just going to the internet and making the 'puters work for us and pull up the relevant info on demand?

Sometimes I'm a little embarrassed for mankind when I read these threads. Really? Too many choices and options? Oh the horrors

In Soviet Russia they didn't have to deal with so many pesky options when it came to consumer goods like cars and computers.

Given a choice between an abundance of choices or a dearth of them, sign me up for the consumer society any day Morganites FTW!
 

podspi

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IDC, these is a difference between no choice and too much choice.

http://www.werbepsychologie-uamr.de/files/literatur/Markenmanagement_Iyengar_Lepper2000.pdf

See also:

http://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=bounded+rationality

Thought and research are not costless. This is our hobby, so the "cost" to us is relatively low (since we're doing the research and evaluating everything for fun).

Then, take into account much of the differentiation in products is due to price discrimination (not the addition of features, but features being fused off), the purpose of which is to extract surplus from high valuation consumers (us!), it is no surprise some at least would dislike the extensive number of products offered today.
 
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