Amd overclocking neare 4000mhz

[chrisrod01]

I just wondering how in the world there are some people that can reach speed near 4ghz with a 4800+ toledo or an amd fx57. What type of watercooling do they use or some pls informe

 

[Linearsoup]

not on water m8,liquid nitrogen and that sort of stuff

 

[chrisrod01]

I know that some other ways but yes i done some research and this is one of the best watercooling system
http://www.frozencpu.com/cas-193.html

 

[kabttu]

I could be wrong, but I don't think that is a watercooling system. I believe it is a phase cooling system?

 

[chrisrod01]

Originally posted by: kabttu
I could be wrong, but I don't think that is a watercooling system. I believe it is a phase cooling system?

Ya i think ur right but whatever that is that thing is awesome

 

[kabttu]

Originally posted by: chrisrod01

Originally posted by: kabttu
I could be wrong, but I don't think that is a watercooling system. I believe it is a phase cooling system?

Ya i think ur right but whatever that is that thing is awesome

Yeah, I would hope so! Notice the price? $900 just for the cooling!

 

[Shimmishim]

yeah that's phasechange cooling.

runs negative celsius temps.

LS is top of the line from vapochill
GT is top of the line from prometeia


there is phasechange, cascade, liquid nitrogen, etc...

i'm not sure hwo cold LN gets but I know that some cascades are possible of -100C's.


this is the only way to get a FX-55 or FX-57 to 4 ghz.

 

[Betwon]

P4 670 had reached 7.3G or more.

I doubt whether Amd(overclocking neare 4000mhz) can run Super PI/1M. If it can run Super Pi/1M, it is still much slower than 670.

 

[Griswold]

Originally posted by: Betwon

If it can run Super Pi/1M, it is still much slower than 670.

I dont think so...

 

[Betwon]

Originally posted by: Griswold

Originally posted by: Betwon

If it can run Super Pi/1M, it is still much slower than 670.

I dont think so...

OK.
670 is only 17 second.
If Amd(4.0G) can run Super Pi/1M, it is still slower than 20 second.

In fact, Amd fails to reach to 20s.

 

[imported_michaelpatrick33]

Originally posted by: Betwon

Originally posted by: Griswold

Originally posted by: Betwon

If it can run Super Pi/1M, it is still much slower than 670.

I dont think so...

OK.
670 is only 17 second.
If Amd(4.0G) can run Super Pi/1M, it is still slower than 20 second.

In fact, Amd fails to reach to 20s.

:roll: Fails to reach the 20's. Uhhh, yeah ok, you must be talking about non-overclocked. My 2640 X2 reaches 32 seconds on Superpi. You think 1400mghrtz (the equivalent of around 3000mghrtz Intel Netburst processor) more on my rig won't get into the 20's. :laugh: Just for this post I am temtped to do a 2800 suicide PI run ... ehhh maybe not.

The reason SuperPi runs so well at 1M on Superpi for Intel is the extra cache, the 670 has 2megs of L2 cache. Let us race to 8M or 16M places or better yet let us run simultaneous instances on dualcores and see who wins.

 

[Betwon]

Originally posted by: michaelpatrick33

Originally posted by: Betwon

Originally posted by: Griswold

Originally posted by: Betwon

If it can run Super Pi/1M, it is still much slower than 670.

I dont think so...

OK.
670 is only 17 second.
If Amd(4.0G) can run Super Pi/1M, it is still slower than 20 second.

In fact, Amd fails to reach to 20s.

:roll: Fails to reach the 20's. Uhhh, yeah ok, you must be talking about non-overclocked. My 2640 X2 reaches 32 seconds on Superpi. You think 1400mghrtz (the equivalent of around 3000mghrtz Intel Netburst processor) more on my rig won't get into the 20's. :laugh: Just for this post I am temtped to do a 2800 suicide PI run ... ehhh maybe not.

The reason SuperPi runs so well at 1M on Superpi for Intel is the extra cache, the 670 has 2megs of L2 cache. Let us race to 8M or 16M places or better yet let us run simultaneous instances on dualcores and see who wins. :smiles;

With OC to 4.0G, Fails to reach the 20's! If both without OC, Prescott 3G can kill A64 3000+(E3 or E6) easily. "1400mghrtz --the equivalent of around 3000mghrtz Intel Netburst processor" is a joke.

For K8@4.0G, it is impossible to reach 20s.

 

[Betwon]

If both without OC, for 6xx@3G, it can still kill A64 3000+(E3 or E6) at the test of 8M.

 

[Griswold]

Hey, why dont you come up with some proof, like links to screenshots etc. instead of just selling assumptions/personal opinions as facts.

 

[Betwon]

Originally posted by: Griswold
Hey, why dont you come up with some proof, like links to screenshots etc. instead of just selling assumptions/personal opinions as facts.

The facts had been well known.

You give us many assumptions/personal opinions.

 

[rgreen83]

The phase change systems basically use the same principal as your AC system in your car to provide cooler than amb. air temps. This is practically the best one can do for a usuable, stable overclocked machine.

Cascades are just phase change systems run in series to boost cooling capacity, all setups i know of are homemade though.

LN2 and dry ice are the tools of choice for extreme overclocks, but only for a short period of time. LN2 turns back into a gas and evaporates, and dry ice "sublimates" directly from solid to gas and also evaporates. Both can be extremely dangerous in the wrong hands, the extreme cold will freeze and destroy cellular material, the effect of which is similar to instant frost bite and can require amputation. LN2 is also even more dangerous in that after evaporating it is heavier than air and will linger in an unventilated area, and can cause asphyxiation. So I wouldnt recommend these two options, which probably means none other than those few extreme will ever see anywhere near 4Ghz on FX-57s.

 

[rgreen83]

My goodness betwon, I dont really care about the intel vs amd argument, but damn dude, you been here a whole three days and every post of yours ive seen is intel propaganda backed up by nothing but your spoutings. Im well aware there are fanboys on both sides of the fence, but geez at least try to gain some respect or credibility before jumping into the fanboy pool, it just makes you look like a mindless lemming, foolishly following others off the cliff. For the record may I state that I dont play SuperPi, therefore I may not realize how fun it is and why it is so important who runs it faster.

 

[jonnythan]

Originally posted by: Betwon
OK.
670 is only 17 second.
If Amd(4.0G) can run Super Pi/1M, it is still slower than 20 second.

In fact, Amd fails to reach to 20s.

Dumbass.
http://www.eclipseoc.com/phpwcms_filestorage/1/1_119.png

That's 27 seconds with an Opteron at 3GHz.

 

[imported_michaelpatrick33]

Originally posted by: Betwon

Originally posted by: michaelpatrick33

Originally posted by: Betwon

Originally posted by: Griswold

Originally posted by: Betwon

If it can run Super Pi/1M, it is still much slower than 670.

I dont think so...

OK.
670 is only 17 second.
If Amd(4.0G) can run Super Pi/1M, it is still slower than 20 second.

In fact, Amd fails to reach to 20s.

:roll: Fails to reach the 20's. Uhhh, yeah ok, you must be talking about non-overclocked. My 2640 X2 reaches 32 seconds on Superpi. You think 1400mghrtz (the equivalent of around 3000mghrtz Intel Netburst processor) more on my rig won't get into the 20's. :laugh: Just for this post I am temtped to do a 2800 suicide PI run ... ehhh maybe not.

The reason SuperPi runs so well at 1M on Superpi for Intel is the extra cache, the 670 has 2megs of L2 cache. Let us race to 8M or 16M places or better yet let us run simultaneous instances on dualcores and see who wins. :smiles;

With OC to 4.0G, Fails to reach the 20's! If both without OC, Prescott 3G can kill A64 3000+(E3 or E6) easily. "1400mghrtz --the equivalent of around 3000mghrtz Intel Netburst processor" is a joke.

For K8@4.0G, it is impossible to reach 20s.

Uh, in my post I told you 32 seconds with my X2 at 2640. Are you sure you are not Intelia? Your grammar is too neat for Intelia but still :roll:

You are telling me that at 4ghrtz a AMD64 can't reach below 30 seconds on Superpi? What a troll

 

[Betwon]

Originally posted by: rgreen83
My goodness betwon, I dont really care about the intel vs amd argument, but damn dude, you been here a whole three days and every post of yours ive seen is intel propaganda backed up by nothing but your spoutings. Im well aware there are fanboys on both sides of the fence, but geez at least try to gain some respect or credibility before jumping into the fanboy pool, it just makes you look like a mindless lemming, foolishly following others off the cliff. For the record may I state that I dont play SuperPi, therefore I may not realize how fun it is and why it is so important who runs it faster.

My goodness rgreen83, I dont really care about the intel vs amd argument.

Just to remind of some poeple not to make some joke.

 

[imported_michaelpatrick33]

Originally posted by: Betwon

Originally posted by: rgreen83
My goodness betwon, I dont really care about the intel vs amd argument, but damn dude, you been here a whole three days and every post of yours ive seen is intel propaganda backed up by nothing but your spoutings. Im well aware there are fanboys on both sides of the fence, but geez at least try to gain some respect or credibility before jumping into the fanboy pool, it just makes you look like a mindless lemming, foolishly following others off the cliff. For the record may I state that I dont play SuperPi, therefore I may not realize how fun it is and why it is so important who runs it faster.

My goodness rgreen83, I dont really care about the intel vs amd argument.

Just to remind of some poeple not to make some joke.

? If you don't care about the Intel vs. AMD argument why do you post obvious troll posts with "facts" that are in fact easily disproven yet you ignore the posts proving you are inaccurate. I am not saying Intel isn't faster in Superpi (which it is) but your posts are pretty trollish.

 

[Betwon]

Originally posted by: michaelpatrick33

Originally posted by: Betwon

Originally posted by: michaelpatrick33

Originally posted by: Betwon

Originally posted by: Griswold

Originally posted by: Betwon

If it can run Super Pi/1M, it is still much slower than 670.

I dont think so...

OK.
670 is only 17 second.
If Amd(4.0G) can run Super Pi/1M, it is still slower than 20 second.

In fact, Amd fails to reach to 20s.

:roll: Fails to reach the 20's. Uhhh, yeah ok, you must be talking about non-overclocked. My 2640 X2 reaches 32 seconds on Superpi. You think 1400mghrtz (the equivalent of around 3000mghrtz Intel Netburst processor) more on my rig won't get into the 20's. :laugh: Just for this post I am temtped to do a 2800 suicide PI run ... ehhh maybe not.

The reason SuperPi runs so well at 1M on Superpi for Intel is the extra cache, the 670 has 2megs of L2 cache. Let us race to 8M or 16M places or better yet let us run simultaneous instances on dualcores and see who wins. :smiles;

With OC to 4.0G, Fails to reach the 20's! If both without OC, Prescott 3G can kill A64 3000+(E3 or E6) easily. "1400mghrtz --the equivalent of around 3000mghrtz Intel Netburst processor" is a joke.

For K8@4.0G, it is impossible to reach 20s.

Uh, in my post I told you 32 seconds with my X2 at 2640. Are you sure you are not Intelia? Your grammar is too neat for Intelia but still :roll:

You are telling me that at 4ghrtz a AMD64 can't reach below "30" seconds on Superpi? What a troll

What a troll!

I are telling me that at 4ghrtz a AMD64 can't reach below 20 seconds on Superpi!

You make a joke.

 

[Betwon]

Originally posted by: michaelpatrick33

Originally posted by: Betwon

Originally posted by: rgreen83
My goodness betwon, I dont really care about the intel vs amd argument, but damn dude, you been here a whole three days and every post of yours ive seen is intel propaganda backed up by nothing but your spoutings. Im well aware there are fanboys on both sides of the fence, but geez at least try to gain some respect or credibility before jumping into the fanboy pool, it just makes you look like a mindless lemming, foolishly following others off the cliff. For the record may I state that I dont play SuperPi, therefore I may not realize how fun it is and why it is so important who runs it faster.

My goodness rgreen83, I dont really care about the intel vs amd argument.

Just to remind of some poeple not to make some joke.

? If you don't care about the Intel vs. AMD argument why do you post obvious troll posts with "facts" that are in fact easily disproven yet you ignore the posts proving you are inaccurate. I am not saying Intel isn't faster in Superpi (which it is) but your posts are pretty trollish.

If you don't care about the Intel vs. AMD argument, why do you believe that FX can AMD64 can reach below 20 seconds on Superpi without any facts to prove it.

K8@3G only reach 27s.
The best record of FX is only 22s in the world.
Do not make a joke,OK?
Show us how AMD64 reach below 20 seconds.

 

[Betwon]

Maybe the record have been updated.
But it is true that : By far, it is impossible for K8 reach below 20 seconds, even K8@4G

 

[imported_michaelpatrick33]

Originally posted by: Betwon

Originally posted by: michaelpatrick33

Originally posted by: Betwon

Originally posted by: Griswold

Originally posted by: Betwon

If it can run Super Pi/1M, it is still much slower than 670.

I dont think so...

OK.
670 is only 17 second.
If Amd(4.0G) can run Super Pi/1M, it is still slower than 20 second.

In fact, Amd fails to reach to 20s.

:roll: Fails to reach the 20's. Uhhh, yeah ok, you must be talking about non-overclocked. My 2640 X2 reaches 32 seconds on Superpi. You think 1400mghrtz (the equivalent of around 3000mghrtz Intel Netburst processor) more on my rig won't get into the 20's. :laugh: Just for this post I am temtped to do a 2800 suicide PI run ... ehhh maybe not.

The reason SuperPi runs so well at 1M on Superpi for Intel is the extra cache, the 670 has 2megs of L2 cache. Let us race to 8M or 16M places or better yet let us run simultaneous instances on dualcores and see who wins. :smiles;

With OC to 4.0G, Fails to reach the 20's! If both without OC, Prescott 3G can kill A64 3000+(E3 or E6) easily. "1400mghrtz --the equivalent of around 3000mghrtz Intel Netburst processor" is a joke.

For K8@4.0G, it is impossible to reach 20s.

You might want to go back and examine your post for grammatical vagueness. You didn't state the AMD64's can't get below 20 seconds at 4ghrtz you stated the K8 can't get into the 20's. Observe other posters refuting the same thing I am refuting; that the AMD64 can't get below 30 seconds at any frequency.

Here is my 2835 X2 at 29 seconds

If a 3ghrtz gets 27 seconds I bet a 4ghrtz would be close to 20 seconds if not below.