AMD peeps... post your mult x fsb settings

Shimmishim

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I was having this debate with someone on PM's saying that I am in the minority running my fsb so high...

so i was trying to get a poll of how many people are running fsb's over 200 mhz and multipliers...

just state what processor you are running (thoroughbred or barton or palomino), your ram, board....

so i'll start

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My bad, went by the title here it is

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beatle

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I was running 209x10.5. Now I'm @ 133x16.5 because I added in 2 crappy 256 meg sticks of ram to go with my Twinmos. Quantity is more important than quality for games that use it all.

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Conscript

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the debate was on your statment that all amd cpu's are not fsb limited, and the only thing holding you back is either the board or the memory. I disagree and say each cpu has an inate limit to how high a fsb can be reached, regardless of the total frequency achieved. This was the direct quote:

Shimmishim:
"so the comment about cpu's having an inate limit is incorrect...a cpu can go as high as the board and ram will allow...there are people capable of running a fsb of 250 mhz now tell me THAT'S an inate limit..."


I maintain that not all cpu's have an ability to hit high fsb's. I may have a cpu that can hit 2ghz at 133x15, but not 166x12 (lets just assume they both equal the EXACT smae frequency, even though there is a slight difference in this example). It really is a matter of what batch and how lucky you are, even if your ram and memory are capable of it. I personally have run into this, as well as reading 100's of posts on the subject in various forums. If every Barton could hit 200fsb, AMD would have sold them as such a long time ago, instead of having to refine their manufacturing process to produce chips that could run at that fsb. Now I know alot of people can run at 200+ fsb, but I know there's no guarantee. I would send you my barton myself Shim and show you no matter what hardware, it won't go above 180ish stable (but I won't ). Again, this is just a friendly debate, and there are no hard feelings, so please give your honest answers, but lets keep it clean


 

Shimmishim

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Originally posted by: Conscript
the debate was on your statment that all amd cpu's are not fsb limited, and the only thing holding you back is either the board or the memory. I disagree and say each cpu has an inate limit to how high a fsb can be reached, regardless of the total frequency achieved. This was the direct quote:

Shimmishim:
"so the comment about cpu's having an inate limit is incorrect...a cpu can go as high as the board and ram will allow...there are people capable of running a fsb of 250 mhz now tell me THAT'S an inate limit..."


I maintain that not all cpu's have an ability to hit high fsb's. I may have a cpu that can hit 2ghz at 133x15, but not 166x12 (lets just assume they both equal the EXACT smae frequency, even though there is a slight difference in this example). It really is a matter of what batch and how lucky you are, even if your ram and memory are capable of it. I personally have run into this, as well as reading 100's of posts on the subject in various forums. If every Barton could hit 200fsb, AMD would have sold them as such a long time ago, instead of having to refine their manufacturing process to produce chips that could run at that fsb. Now I know alot of people can run at 200+ fsb, but I know there's no guarantee. I would send you my barton myself Shim and show you no matter what hardware, it won't go above 180ish stable (but I won't ). Again, this is just a friendly debate, and there are no hard feelings, so please give your honest answers, but lets keep it clean




I believe that all processors have the ability to hit high fsb's... and people are limited by the board or ram or both!

in your case... it is unique... well to you and all the people that own a 333 fsb processor (barton 2500, 2800, 3000, and tbred 2600 and 2800)

people have been stating issues with running a high fsb with these processors

BUT

once you cut the 3rd L12 bridge, it is no longer "CPU LIMITED"

read the first post of this thread


anyone that owns a tbred 266 fsb version should be able to hit over 200 mhz as long as their board AND ram will let them...

anyone that cuts the 3rd L12 bridge with a 333 should be able to hit over 200 mhz as long as their board AND ram will let them....


 

pspada

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True, while I can run my Barton 2500+ at 2000Mhz in either 133x15 or 166x12, I can not run at 200x10 (or 200x anything) properly. So I am considering the cutting of the 3rd L12 bridge, but since I suspect that my KT400 based m/b is the issue, I am somewhat reluctant to do so.
 

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amcdonald

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Just got this chip so I haven't pushed it far yet.
2100+ 0301
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13*177 =2301
I'm having a problem raising the fsb higher than 190
I'm assuming its the board. the ram runs async well past 200.
Are there any boards 'garaunteed' to run well past 200?

 

Jeff7181

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Originally posted by: amcdonald
Just got this chip so I haven't pushed it far yet.
2100+ 0301
Epox 8RDA+
2x256mb Hyperx pc3000
13*177 =2301
I'm having a problem raising the fsb higher than 190
I'm assuming its the board. the ram runs async well past 200.
Are there any boards 'garaunteed' to run well past 200?

My A7N8X Deluxe Rev. 2 doesn't seem to have a problem with it... I think I can go even higher, but I stopped at 221 because of my RAM... it's PC2700 and doesn't like to be overclocked at all, so I'm running it at 75%
 

amcdonald

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Have you tried comparing your current memory scores with your system running synced? You might be better off with a lower fsb. Just wondering
 

Shimmishim

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Originally posted by: Jeff7181
Originally posted by: amcdonald
Just got this chip so I haven't pushed it far yet.
2100+ 0301
Epox 8RDA+
2x256mb Hyperx pc3000
13*177 =2301
I'm having a problem raising the fsb higher than 190
I'm assuming its the board. the ram runs async well past 200.
Are there any boards 'garaunteed' to run well past 200?

My A7N8X Deluxe Rev. 2 doesn't seem to have a problem with it... I think I can go even higher, but I stopped at 221 because of my RAM... it's PC2700 and doesn't like to be overclocked at all, so I'm running it at 75%

nforce2 boards don't like things running async

if you do benchmarks and stuff you'll see your scores are a lot lower than running them 1:1 or 100%; so you're technically not running over 200 cuz it's asynch...

i meant in sync or 1:1 or 100%

amcdonald: the new c1 nb 8rda+ will letyou run over 200 and the abit nf7-s and asus a7n8x will allow you to run over 200 as well as long as it is the rev 2.0 board

 

Jeff7181

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No... technically I am running at 221 (221x10x2210)... although because it's a-sync it probably won't be as fast as if I could run in sync. However, since my RAM will only do 166, I can only get 2.08 Ghz with the FSB at 166... and at 2.21 Ghz, every score is an improvement over 166x12.5.
 

amcdonald

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Jeff, do you not have multipliers higher than 12.5?
why not lower the fsb to 166 or whatever is stable with ram synced, and raise the cpu multipier?

Shim, I should just ask in motherboards, but for a quick opinion which do you prefer? or have you only used the n7f-s?
 

Shimmishim

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Originally posted by: amcdonald
Jeff, do you not have multipliers higher than 12.5?
why not lower the fsb to 166 or whatever is stable with ram synced, and raise the cpu multipier?

Shim, I should just ask in motherboards, but for a quick opinion which do you prefer? or have you only used the n7f-s?

i've had a 8rda+ and nf7-s...

8rda+ is a great board... if you're waiitng, you might just want to wait for the 8rda3+ which has more options and an adjustable vdd voltage
 

deerslayer

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10.5 x 143

If I had better ram in the EPOX i'd go for a higher FSB, but I haven't tried past 172 because that was my goal.
 
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