AMD Phenom X3 710 --> X4

[Flipped Gazelle]

Failed after 2h:20m of OCCT. Core 0. Probably needs more juice.

 

[blackpanther26]

so what is your voltage at right now?

 

[Flipped Gazelle]

Originally posted by: blackpanther26
so what is your voltage at right now?

1.41v - so I do have room to increase, just not with this HSF.

 

[geokilla]

Originally posted by: Flipped Gazelle
Failed after 2h:20m of OCCT. Core 0. Probably needs more juice.

That's more than enough. I just make sure that I'm 2 hours OCCT stable then that's it. Your computer never runs anything more intensive than OCCT except for probably F@H.

 

[blackpanther26]

I think you could probally go to 3.4GHz with that extra core enabled.

 

[thilanliyan]

Originally posted by: jmanny

Originally posted by: Flipped Gazelle

Originally posted by: jmanny
Crap.....I didn't win the free core lottery today. Took delivery of a 720 chip and it is not a 0904 chip....not extra cores for me.

We don't know if the potential is unlock the 4th core is exclusive to 0904... give it a shot!

Edit: over at XS, someone got 0849 to work.

Not only did I NOT win the 0904 batch lottery, I can't even boot my system with this processor installed. I have a Gigabyte GA-MA790FX DS-5, it is AM3 ready but will not post with the X3 installed. I have the latest bios and all. Maybe my RMA will be the unlockable batch.

On my Gigabyte 790GX board...it was very finicky about booting properly (until I changed to one of the later BIOSes where now I just press reset after a cold boot and it's fine)...I had to try all sorts of stuff like pulling the plug and then retrying...resetting multiple times...etc...and yes it was with ACC enabled. Try doing a CMOS clear and doing it again, you might get it to bootl.

 

[Flipped Gazelle]

Originally posted by: blackpanther26
I think you could probally go to 3.4GHz with that extra core enabled.

I agree. I'll probably cap it at 1.45v.

I downloaded the newest AMD Overdrive - released yesterday, I think - and it's reporting CPU temps at -256C. Pretty good for the stock cooler!

 

[jmanny]

I actually ordered the Asrock AOD 790 GX board and got it in today. I am going to try the processor in that to see if is not DOA before I RMA. BTW it is a 0851 chip, which I have heard is one that has been unlocked.

I will use my 790FX board in a HTPC with my 5000be instead.

So as usual, I try to upgrade one part of my system and end up building something else entirely.

 

[Flipped Gazelle]

Originally posted by: blackpanther26
are you talking about werxen? Any ways with Realtemp at 4GHz it reports my CPU temps at 60c full load. I guse with 45nm you have to configer the system. Maybe you should pop your head up and tell them your story on this chip at tom's. I want to see that werxen's replies.

Heh, this guy werxen just accused me of being a troll. :laugh:

 

[Flipped Gazelle]

Looks like I've maxed out at 3.3 Ghz @ 1.45v (AOD reports 1.44). OCCT crashes in about 2 minutes with 3.4 Ghz @ 1.475, so I think I've hit the sweet spot on my CPU.

 

[blackpanther26]

these chips have a max Voltage of 1.55v When you get a better cooler try 1.55v at 3.4GHz.

 

[SlowSpyder]

Originally posted by: Flipped Gazelle
Looks like I've maxed out at 3.3 Ghz @ 1.45v (AOD reports 1.44). OCCT crashes in about 2 minutes with 3.4 Ghz @ 1.475, so I think I've hit the sweet spot on my CPU.

Now that's some bang for the buck right there!

 

[Idontcare]

Originally posted by: SlowSpyder

Originally posted by: Flipped Gazelle
Looks like I've maxed out at 3.3 Ghz @ 1.45v (AOD reports 1.44). OCCT crashes in about 2 minutes with 3.4 Ghz @ 1.475, so I think I've hit the sweet spot on my CPU.

Now that's some bang for the buck right there!

It has got to be the world record for performance/dollar for a retail purchase. (freebies don't count)

 

[Flipped Gazelle]

Originally posted by: Idontcare

Originally posted by: SlowSpyder

Originally posted by: Flipped Gazelle
Looks like I've maxed out at 3.3 Ghz @ 1.45v (AOD reports 1.44). OCCT crashes in about 2 minutes with 3.4 Ghz @ 1.475, so I think I've hit the sweet spot on my CPU.

Now that's some bang for the buck right there!

It has got to be the world record for performance/dollar for a retail purchase. (freebies don't count)

I guess it could be, considering I'm using the stock thermal solution. However, if the CPU craps out within the next couple of years...

 

[Zstream]

Originally posted by: Flipped Gazelle

Originally posted by: Idontcare

Originally posted by: SlowSpyder

Originally posted by: Flipped Gazelle
Looks like I've maxed out at 3.3 Ghz @ 1.45v (AOD reports 1.44). OCCT crashes in about 2 minutes with 3.4 Ghz @ 1.475, so I think I've hit the sweet spot on my CPU.

Now that's some bang for the buck right there!

It has got to be the world record for performance/dollar for a retail purchase. (freebies don't count)

I guess it could be, considering I'm using the stock thermal solution. However, if the CPU craps out within the next couple of years...

Not to poke at the situation but I would highly doubt anyone using this mod will have the cpu for many years.

 

[Flipped Gazelle]

Originally posted by: Zstream

Originally posted by: Flipped Gazelle

Originally posted by: Idontcare

Originally posted by: SlowSpyder

Originally posted by: Flipped Gazelle
Looks like I've maxed out at 3.3 Ghz @ 1.45v (AOD reports 1.44). OCCT crashes in about 2 minutes with 3.4 Ghz @ 1.475, so I think I've hit the sweet spot on my CPU.

Now that's some bang for the buck right there!

It has got to be the world record for performance/dollar for a retail purchase. (freebies don't count)

I guess it could be, considering I'm using the stock thermal solution. However, if the CPU craps out within the next couple of years...

Not to poke at the situation but I would highly doubt anyone using this mod will have the cpu for many years.

Poke away!

I know, we're all prone to upgraditis... although I did hang on to my Opteron 165 for almost 2 years.

 

[Idontcare]

Originally posted by: Zstream

Originally posted by: Flipped Gazelle

Originally posted by: Idontcare

Originally posted by: SlowSpyder

Originally posted by: Flipped Gazelle
Looks like I've maxed out at 3.3 Ghz @ 1.45v (AOD reports 1.44). OCCT crashes in about 2 minutes with 3.4 Ghz @ 1.475, so I think I've hit the sweet spot on my CPU.

Now that's some bang for the buck right there!

It has got to be the world record for performance/dollar for a retail purchase. (freebies don't count)

I guess it could be, considering I'm using the stock thermal solution. However, if the CPU craps out within the next couple of years...

Not to poke at the situation but I would highly doubt anyone using this mod will have the cpu for many years.

Exactly, and if it does crap out in 2 yrs and the user still wants to keep using a CPU at the same performance level the a replacement at that time will be dirt-cheap on ebay.

 

[Flipped Gazelle]

Originally posted by: Idontcare

Originally posted by: Zstream

Originally posted by: Flipped Gazelle

Originally posted by: Idontcare

Originally posted by: SlowSpyder

Originally posted by: Flipped Gazelle
Looks like I've maxed out at 3.3 Ghz @ 1.45v (AOD reports 1.44). OCCT crashes in about 2 minutes with 3.4 Ghz @ 1.475, so I think I've hit the sweet spot on my CPU.

Now that's some bang for the buck right there!

It has got to be the world record for performance/dollar for a retail purchase. (freebies don't count)

I guess it could be, considering I'm using the stock thermal solution. However, if the CPU craps out within the next couple of years...

Not to poke at the situation but I would highly doubt anyone using this mod will have the cpu for many years.

Exactly, and if it does crap out in 2 yrs and the user still wants to keep using a CPU at the same performance level the a replacement at that time will be dirt-cheap on ebay.

If it did crap out in 2 years, I'd try to get it replaced under the mfr's 3 year warranty.

 

[jmanny]

Originally posted by: Flipped Gazelle
Originally posted by: jmanny
Crap.....I didn't win the free core lottery today. Took delivery of a 720 chip and it is not a 0904 chip....not extra cores for me.


We don't know if the potential is unlock the 4th core is exclusive to 0904... give it a shot!

Edit: over at XS, someone got 0849 to work.


Not only did I NOT win the 0904 batch lottery, I can't even boot my system with this processor installed. I have a Gigabyte GA-MA790FX DS-5, it is AM3 ready but will not post with the X3 installed. I have the latest bios and all. Maybe my RMA will be the unlockable batch.

Here's a follow up:

I had purchased the X3 and wanted to install in my Gigabyte motherboard, but it wouldn't post. I then purchased an ASrock AOD 790gx board, installed my X3 and it booted right up. I can now confirm the 0851 chips will unlock to 4 cores. I have not done any testing/overclocking yet, I need to put it in the case tonight. Tomorrow, I'll test and see if it will run stable.

 

[Flipped Gazelle]

Originally posted by: jmanny

Here's a follow up:

I had purchased the X3 and wanted to install in my Gigabyte motherboard, but it wouldn't post. I then purchased an ASrock AOD 790gx board, installed my X3 and it booted right up. I can now confirm the 0851 chips will unlock to 4 cores. I have not done any testing/overclocking yet, I need to put it in the case tonight. Tomorrow, I'll test and see if it will run stable.

:thumbsup: Fingers crossed...

 

[jmanny]

Originally posted by: Flipped Gazelle

Originally posted by: jmanny

Here's a follow up:

I had purchased the X3 and wanted to install in my Gigabyte motherboard, but it wouldn't post. I then purchased an ASrock AOD 790gx board, installed my X3 and it booted right up. I can now confirm the 0851 chips will unlock to 4 cores. I have not done any testing/overclocking yet, I need to put it in the case tonight. Tomorrow, I'll test and see if it will run stable.

:thumbsup: Fingers crossed...

I ran occt two hours at stock speeds. No problems. But I can't get this to overclock through the bios at all. I will change the multi and up voltage to 1.4 and when I re-boot it will shut down immediately. I can run AMD overdrive and OC through windows, up to 3.2. Have run occt for a two hours stable with that set-up. I am going to try and shut down the 4th core and oc through the bios and see what happens.

 

[jmanny]

Originally posted by: jmanny

Originally posted by: Flipped Gazelle

Originally posted by: jmanny

Here's a follow up:

I had purchased the X3 and wanted to install in my Gigabyte motherboard, but it wouldn't post. I then purchased an ASrock AOD 790gx board, installed my X3 and it booted right up. I can now confirm the 0851 chips will unlock to 4 cores. I have not done any testing/overclocking yet, I need to put it in the case tonight. Tomorrow, I'll test and see if it will run stable.

:thumbsup: Fingers crossed...

I ran occt two hours at stock speeds. No problems. But I can't get this to overclock through the bios at all. I will change the multi and up voltage to 1.4 and when I re-boot it will shut down immediately. I can run AMD overdrive and OC through windows, up to 3.2. Have run occt for a two hours stable with that set-up. I am going to try and shut down the 4th core and oc through the bios and see what happens.

Some new discoveries.

I am running occt at 3.5ghz as I type. Here's what I did:

I disabled ACC in the bios and lost the fourth core. OC to 3.00 was stable. Then I enabled acc to the ALL Cores setting. Sure enough my fourth core came back, and it has given me the ability to OC through the bios. I tried at 3.6 (figured why not go all the way to start) Windows booted up no problem, but occt crashed after maybe 10 seconds. I dropped down to 17.5 multi 3.5ghz. OCCT has been running for 15 minutes now.

I think there is more than one way to enable the fourth core on these chips.

Me thinks AMD is selling quads as triple cores.

 

[Flipped Gazelle]

Originally posted by: jmanny
Some new discoveries.

I am running occt at 3.5ghz as I type. Here's what I did:

I disabled ACC in the bios and lost the fourth core. OC to 3.00 was stable. Then I enabled acc to the ALL Cores setting. Sure enough my fourth core came back, and it has given me the ability to OC through the bios. I tried at 3.6 (figured why not go all the way to start) Windows booted up no problem, but occt crashed after maybe 10 seconds. I dropped down to 17.5 multi 3.5ghz. OCCT has been running for 15 minutes now.

I think there is more than one way to enable the fourth core on these chips.

Me thinks AMD is selling quads as triple cores.

Great news!

What voltage are you using?

I wonder if AMD is deliberately not selling premium AM3 quads in order to not undercut AM2+ 920/940 sales.

On a side note, I've noticed that my system with the unlocked X3 710 @ 3.3 Ghz is drawing at least 50w less from the wall than my 9850 @ 3.0 Ghz did.

 

[Idontcare]

Originally posted by: Flipped Gazelle
I wonder if AMD is deliberately not selling premium AM3 quads in order to not undercut AM2+ 920/940 sales.

Its a definite possibility that they are actively engineering the release structure to best manage existing inventories of the AM2+ quads.

 

[richierich1212]

so much for those "bum core" excuses