I can finally make this thread.
Phoenix is indeed RDNA3. My advice to everyone: treat the old APU rumours as being out of date.
Phoenix is indeed RDNA3. My advice to everyone: treat the old APU rumours as being out of date.
I feel like that has to be marketing messing up. Is that wording still up anywhere?Some old and interesting find, that it seems AMD already naming one of Zen4 CCD in Dragon Range as EFFICIENCY cores...? It sounds like a marketing disaster despite the CCD has lower clock. So what is the Efficiency core inside Phoenix?
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I feel like that has to be marketing messing up. Is that wording still up anywhere?
I think someone at Asus probably just copy-pasted from Alder Lake or something. I wouldn't read much into it.Just found the better and full marketing slide
View attachment 78797According to ASUS Ryzen has P and E cores!
I’m literally just trolling. ASUS had messed up they’re webpage and I just wanted to share the silliness to somebody.forum.level1techs.com
dunno if ASUS messed it up or the correct insider material directly linked/related to AMD.
Yeah Aya have access to PHX too.Apparently the handheld PC industry is going full speed ahead, despite no OFFICIAL world from AMD on 7040U SKUs yet.
Base clock is apparently 3,3GHz (6800U and 7735U both have it at 2,7GHz), hence 5GHz boost or slightly higher seems very likely.
Asus aren't that clever. It's employee laziness. I expect better from people on Wendell's website using the term "fake cores" when describing Intel products as if a core must be dual threaded to be a core.Could also be related to binning, one CCD binned for high frequency, the other for low leakage. Calling the resulting cores P- and E-cores may still be an ASUS PR thing though.
Full quotes without providing the source is considered terrible practice.At this time, there is limited information available about the AMD Phoenix/Zen 4 APU, as AMD has not officially announced the product. However, there has been speculation and discussion about the potential specifications and features of the upcoming APU.
Based on rumors and leaks, the AMD Phoenix/Zen 4 APU is expected to feature a new architecture with significant improvements over previous generations. It is rumored to be built on a 5nm or 6nm manufacturing process, which could provide increased efficiency and performance. Additionally, the APU is expected to feature the latest DDR5 memory support, which could further boost performance.
The AMD Phoenix/Zen 4 APU is also expected to feature integrated graphics, which could provide significant improvements over previous generations. It is rumored to feature RDNA 3 graphics, which could provide up to a 50% performance boost over RDNA 2 graphics. This could make the APU a compelling choice for gaming and other graphics-intensive applications.
Other potential features of the AMD Phoenix/Zen 4 APU include PCIe 5.0 support, improved AI and machine learning capabilities, and increased power efficiency. However, it is important to note that these are all speculation at this time, and nothing has been confirmed by AMD.
Doesn't seem much faster than the 680M test he did with the 6800H. The only common game with the same settings in the two videos is Fortnite, and even though the map is different, the 780M and 680M deliver similar FPS.ETA Prime has a early preview of Phoenix R9 7940HS/Radeon 780M in a ASUS TUF design.
DO NOTE: Early drivers/BIOS, some performance is wildly inconsistent, also crashes while allowed to go to 80W.
Seems to clock at 2800MHz in Furmark at a 45W package and he also successfully overclocked it to around 3100MHz somehow. Anyway, keep in mind, it's all on beta drivers/software.
Crashing may be related to the DDR5 memory appearing in current gen laptops, crashing on Raptor Lake systems using DDR5-5600 SODIMMs is extremely common too. Jarrod made a community post about it on YouTube a couple of weeks ago.ETA Prime has a early preview of Phoenix R9 7940HS/Radeon 780M in a ASUS TUF design.
DO NOTE: Early drivers/BIOS, some performance is wildly inconsistent, also crashes while allowed to go to 80W.
Seems to clock at 2800MHz in Furmark at a 45W package and he also successfully overclocked it to around 3100MHz somehow. Anyway, keep in mind, it's all on beta drivers/software.
Yep, ETA substituted the stock RAM (DDR-5 4800) with his own modules (DDR5-5600) so it's entirely possible there are some issues with that, especially with not final BIOS and firmware. Possibly one of the reasons why Phoenix got apparently a slight delay.Crashing may be related to the DDR5 memory appearing in current gen laptops, crashing on Raptor Lake systems using DDR5-5600 SODIMMs is extremely common too. Jarrod made a community post about it on YouTube a couple of weeks ago.
No, it already "launched". Availability seems to have slowed down though.They launch Phoenix late April? Does it mean we won't see Phoenix device until Q3 on shelves?
No, it already "launched". Availability seems to have slowed down though.
In Germany one model by ASUS is already readily available, but originally this should have been the case for all 8 models by late March/early April so there has been a delay of some sort at the last second.
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U models have been much later for some gens now.Any news about U models?
U was said to be available in May, probably late part of the month. Same source saying that HS line would have been available for end of April.
AMD has not officially announced Phoenix U.
As for the Lenovo laptop... I was wrong... it uses Dragon Range actually.
Ryzen chips in laptops and affordable don't fit together in one sentence anymore since Rembrandt/Zen 3+.this APU will hardly find its way on affordable laptops
Ryzen chips in laptops and affordable don't fit together in one sentence anymore since Rembrandt/Zen 3+.
Asus ROG ALLY looks pretty promising. Would It be a good replacement to my i5-9300H + GTX1650 + 24GB DDR4 + 1.5TB SSD? Probably not worth It.Asus hand held device is at 700$, a laptop without fancyness shouldnt be lot more, eventually RMB will be used as entry level laptops, guess that AMD could had fabbed a lot of the latter at good prices since TSMC 7nm capacitiess fell recently at 50 or even 40% utilisation rate.
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Asus kündigt den Handheld-PC ROG Ally mit AMD Zen 4 und RDNA 3 an – Konkurrenz für Valves Steam Deck. Der Preis bleibt vorerst offen.www.computerbase.de