I'll go out on a limb & say that the NX will beat both of them :awe:Right, omission is not confirmation, however glaring that omission may be.
Total speculation: all the Polaris 11 desktop parts are going to the PS Neo and Xbone2.
So it's your opinion that best Polaris 10 has to offer is just 390-390X performance with lower power draw?But not performance/enthusiast. Not looking like the Fury X killer some people were talking about, but hey, I love surprises.
So it's your opinion that best Polaris 10 has to offer is just 390-390X performance with lower power draw?
But not performance/enthusiast. Not looking like the Fury X killer some people were talking about, but hey, I love surprises.
If it's an overclocker's dream then it may well get the better of Fury X, albeit with GDDR5x, or perhaps just nipping on the heels of Fury Nano, if we're lucky.So it's your opinion that best Polaris 10 has to offer is just 390-390X performance with lower power draw?
I dont remember anyone saying Polaris 10 will be a Fury X killer. Some of us have said Polaris could come close to Fury at 1080/1440p but nobody have talk about Fury X killer as far as i can remember.
I dont remember anyone saying Polaris 10 will be a Fury X killer. Some of us have said Polaris could come close to Fury at 1080/1440p but nobody have talk about Fury X killer as far as i can remember.
Polaris 11 and 10 could replace all current graphics cards from $100 to $650 including Fury-X and especially Nano.
I dont remember anyone saying Polaris 10 will be a Fury X killer. Some of us have said Polaris could come close to Fury at 1080/1440p but nobody have talk about Fury X killer as far as i can remember.
http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?p=38177119#post38177119
http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?p=38168187#post38168187
People are hoping (hyping) that Polaris 10 will beat Fury X, even some more people saying it will tie with Fury X.
The transition to 14nm pretty much allows for "Fury X performance at half the TDP". I don't see why you're hyping this as some miraculous thing.So you don't think Fury X performance at half the TDP and lower prices makes it a Fiji killer? Such a product would certainly deserve to be mentioned as part of the performance and enthusiast segments till Vega hits the market, not just mainstream.
The transition to 14nm pretty much allows for "Fury X performance at half the TDP". I don't see why you're hyping this as some miraculous thing.
AMD mentions Polaris 10 as a mainstream desktop part. For 14 nm generation, I think this means equivalent to present performance parts. Fury is very close to 390X in performance, so why the insinuation that these are impossible targets.
Do you have any information you can share to help us?
I confess to being confused by your statement.I must have missed the part where AMD suddenly disconsiders all previous/current VGAs in their roadmap and creates an empty space in the performance/enthusiast segments till Vega hits next year. Sure, makes perfect sense. Alternatively, maybe it sits below Fury X performance-wise, but that would be a hype killer.
consoles are semicustom apus. I don't expect that to change.
That would be Vega.
I'll go out on a limb & say that the NX will beat both of them :awe:
he dont want to believe that polaris 10 will be at fury level and vega (which will be the fury replacement) will surpass it...I confess to being confused by your statement.
IF Polaris 10 is equivalent to FuryX in performance and replaces it, where is the hole in the roadmap? They would have occupied the same performance level.
Sure the 14nm roadmap would be missing the higher performing performance/enthusiast members, but FuryX could never fill that space anyhow.
One important thing here is that FuryX never had the performance delta to a 390X as the 980Ti had to the 980.
Propably won't be that much longer before anything outside of high-end stuff won't be cusomizable in terms of CPU,GPU and RAM as all of those three will be soldered and sold together. SoC(CPU&GPU)+Soldered RAM or CPU+GPU connected with high-speed interposer + soldered RAM.Wont be long before the cheapest GPU you can buy is 300$+.
Why do you guys set yourself up for such disappointment? It's pretty obvious from everything shown Vega will be Fury X's replacement, not Polaris 10.
Polaris 10 will target 390/X performance and at best it'll nip a the heels of the regular Fury or Nano at 1080/1440P.
HBM is still much better for higher resolutions. So unless these cards are being released with GDDR5X there's no real chance of replacing the Fury X. They need the Fury X to carry them through to Vega. I'm pretty sure price drops will happen across the board though which is good for everyone.
There are some situation where Polaris is incredibly fast. Faster than anything in the market. The secret is probably that special culling mechanism in the hardware, which helps the GPU to effectively cull those false positive primitives that aren't visible in the screen. Today's hardwares can't do this.So you don't think Fury X performance at half the TDP and lower prices makes it a Fiji killer? Such a product would certainly deserve to be mentioned as part of the performance and enthusiast segments till Vega hits the market, not just mainstream.
vega will surpass fury x and what is gonna fill that gap between 390x and fury? a magical gpu? ofc it will be polaris 10 even the resurfaced roadmap(for some reason it became news again) shows us that...polaris 10 will be at fury line perf and vega it will be the next fury its natural
vega will surpass fury x and what is gonna fill that gap between 390x and fury?
Of course Vega is FuryX replacement. The important thing for all to realize is that this does not mean Vega = FuryX performance + some small %. It might be that some of you only remember the last few yrs of GPUs and can't imagine a generational leap that includes a node shrink.Why do you guys set yourself up for such disappointment? It's pretty obvious from everything shown Vega will be Fury X's replacement, not Polaris 10.
Polaris 10 will target 390/X performance and at best it'll nip a the heels of the regular Fury or Nano at 1080/1440P.
HBM is still much better for higher resolutions. So unless these cards are being released with GDDR5X there's no real chance of replacing the Fury X. They need the Fury X to carry them through to Vega. I'm pretty sure price drops will happen across the board though which is good for everyone.
The full Polaris 11 is more or less coming to this segment. Based on the application, it might be faster than Fury.