AMD Polaris Thread: Radeon RX 480, RX 470 & RX 460 launching June 29th

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Sweepr

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The 1070 is roughly 40% faster than a 390X, so with an 18-26% overclock on the RX 480, the 1070 would still be about 15-20% faster.

Indeed. And, as you said, it might shock some people but it is possible to overclock a Geforce GTX 1070 as well.

TechPowerUp got ~13.5% more performance out of a Founder's Edition.

This would mean that RX 480 and 1070 actually has fairly comparable perf/$ (at MSRP anyway).

Zero surprise if Radeon RX 480 can beat it in perf/$, that's exactly what you would expect from a mainstream part. Will be really disappointing if GP106 can't deliver better perf/$ than current Pascal VGAs as well.
 
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sze5003

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Nope, Guru3D uses the full score in their graphs, not the GPU score.



I honestly have no idea when the 1070 might be available at MSRP, all I can do is hope (naively so perhaps).

As for whether or not the RX 480 will come close to the 1070, it depends upon your definition of close I guess. A 20% gap is not really close in my book.
Yea it really depends on the user. If you want to play at 1080 and max your settings the 480 will do it. You will be fine at 1440p as well if you get the 8gb version. But in some games you may not get to go all max with the 480.

For me personally, I kept this 7970ghz 4+ years and I can still use it. It was their flagship card at one point. The nvidia support for the 1070 I don't think will be as long as it will for the 480. But I always buy the most I can for the least amount of money I have to to spend.

I've had both brands and haven't had issues its just I'm not a fan of upgrading soon and that seems to be the trend with nvidia. But because the 480 is more affordable I can use it to hold me over until Vega.
 

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Indeed. And, as you said, it might shock some people but it is possible to overclock a Geforce GTX 1070 as well.

TechPowerUp got ~13.5% more performance out of a Founder's Edition.



Zero surprise if Radeon RX 480 can beat it in perf/$, that's exactly what you would expect from a mainstream part. Will be really disappointing if GP106 can't deliver better perf/$ than current Pascal VGAs as well.

Other than a fps/$ comparison I don't really get the RX480 vs 1070 battle that looks to be brewing. Not really in the same pecking order in reality.

I've had both brands and haven't had issues its just I'm not a fan of upgrading soon and that seems to be the trend with nvidia. But because the 480 is more affordable I can use it to hold me over until Vega.

Not sure if it's a never ending trend in the end. I do know that for some reason many predict AMD's future based on the past while giving Nvidia a free pass at the same time. Game now vs later scenario comes to mind. In the end the software is the achilles heal.

In the end I guess it's really just a wait and see what happens.
 
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Current rumours has it overclocking by about 18-26% (1266 to 1500-1600), which would still put a fair bit short of a 1070, assuming the stock performance is equal to a 390X.

The 1070 is roughly 40% faster than a 390X, so with an 18-26% overclock on the RX 480, the 1070 would still be about 15-20% faster.

This would mean that RX 480 and 1070 actually has fairly comparable perf/$ (at MSRP anyway). The rumoured 1500 MHz RX 480 is $300, whilst the 1070 is $380 (at MSRP, which would hopefully be available by the time RX 480 launches). So 20% more performance from the 1070 for a 27% increase in price, or vice versa a 17% drop in performance from the RX 480 for a 21% drop in price.

Er, what? You linked 1600x900 benchmarks.
 

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I don't see how you determine that 1070 is 40% faster than a 390x, I only see about 25%ish.

https://tpucdn.com/reviews/NVIDIA/GeForce_GTX_1070/images/perfrel_3840_2160.png

1080 is 40-45% faster than 390X but not the 1070.

Actually the 1070 is 30% faster in the graph you posted, but I don't really think 4K is relevant for these GPUs.

Also I accidently posted the 900p graph instead of the 1440p I intended, it's fixed now (the 1070 is 37.5% faster here)

Er, what? You linked 1600x900 benchmarks.

Yeah that was a mistake, meant to post the 1440p graph, I fixed the link now.
 

antihelten

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That's correct. 1080p is CPU bound however. So it's more like 35% or less overall.

Which would still make the reference 1070 about 15% faster than a 1500 MHz RX 480 (assuming the 1266 MHz version is equal to the 390X), so either way they wouldn't really be in the same performance category.
 
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$450 card vs $200 card? If the 200 one can get even in the same ballpark then that's a victory imo. The difference in price is staggering. $200 to me is so much easier to swallow than 450.
 

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$450 card vs $200 card? If the 200 one can get even in the same ballpark then that's a victory imo. The difference in price is staggering. $200 to me is so much easier to swallow than 450.
right? that is the price of another 480.

and there are some here who is acting like it's a win for the 1070 or 1080. D:
 

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$450 card vs $200 card? If the 200 one can get even in the same ballpark then that's a victory imo. The difference in price is staggering. $200 to me is so much easier to swallow than 450.

That's what I'm thinking. Even the worst-case scenario of a $300 pimped-out 480 vs a $380 1070 is a ~20% difference in prices in favor of the 480. If it clocks like we've heard, it could get within 20% of the 1070. Any cheaper for the 480 (or more expensive for the 1070) and the perf/$ gets even better.
 

sze5003

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That's what I'm thinking. Even the worst-case scenario of a $300 pimped-out 480 vs a $380 1070 is a ~20% difference in prices in favor of the 480. If it clocks like we've heard, it could get within 20% of the 1070. Any cheaper for the 480 (or more expensive for the 1070) and the perf/$ gets even better.
Honestly if it was the difference between a $380 1070 and a $300 custom Rx 480 I wouldn't mind paying the price for the 1070. But problem is it never launched at MSRP. To get it now or next month you are paying $420-$480 plus tax. Probably for a while too.
 

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right? that is the price of another 480.

and there are some here who is acting like it's a win for the 1070 or 1080. D:

And there are some here who are acting like a 480 is in the same ballpark as a 1070. Because..........?
 

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This is also assuming rx480 is on par with R9 390X, just purely on Tflop numbers due to raised clocks because of a die shrink. There is potential for further improvement from architectural changes, and there is also a potential of regression in performance due to narrower memory bus.

So come 29th it should be really interesting to see how it does.

I personally think there is potential for more performance than we expect, since even Tonga was a perf/Tflop improvement over R9 390X Hawaii arch.
 
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sirmo

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To be fair even at 390X performance levels this is a good card. Trading blows with 1070 would be pretty amazing though. And I wouldn't rule it out entirely.
 

Keysplayr

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they are riding the hype train and thinking/assuming 1500 hz oc 9 more days.

Ahhh man. Why do they do this to themselves?
Every

Single

Time....




Stop. This. Now.


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sirmo

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Well, those are flagship cards. Would you have pimped a 5770 will take out GTX480?
Or 680 taking out 7970?
Back then AMD only had one architecture per die shrink. But they were still targeted at mainstream and rx480 is the flagship of the Polaris arch.

If you want you can think of 4850 and 5850, my point still stands. Those cards were awesome.
 

Keysplayr

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Back then AMD only had one architecture per die shrink. But they were still targeted at mainstream and rx480 is the flagship of the Polaris arch.

If you want you can think of 4850 and 5850, my point still stands. Those cards were awesome.

Sigh. They were still flagship dies though. Polaris is not AMDs flagship die. Is it? I cant figure out what the point is that you are trying to make, or why whatever point that might be, is still standing.
Sorry but Im not following.
 

sirmo

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Sigh. They were still flagship dies though. Polaris is not AMDs flagship die. Is it? I cant figure out what the point is that you are trying to make, or why whatever point that might be, is still standing.
Sorry but Im not following.
Why then get involved in the conversation when you don't understand what's being discussed?

Anyone who has followed the GPU market for a while can clearly understand my point. rx480 can be disruptive, it wouldn't be the first time, AMD has done it before.

If you don't understand it feel free to read Anandtech reviews for those products and get informed.
 
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