AMD Polaris Thread: Radeon RX 480, RX 470 & RX 460 launching June 29th

[boozzer]

I know they only support 2-way SLI GTX 1080. And I hope they release Vega before 2017 (October) And if they do, I hope it's not a huge fail.

A GTX 1080 is 910$ CAD before tax. Ouch

that is like the cost of a mid range pc, an entire mid range pc

 

[Sweepr]

$199 confirmed.

 

[JDG1980]

36 CUs equates to the long-rumored 2304 shaders. The interesting question is whether this is the fully enabled chip or a cut-down version. The Tonga precedent indicates that AMD might be saving all the full dies for OEMs and mobile - especially if yields on GloFo 14LPP are still low. There was also a rumor that "Ellesmere XT" (which would be the full Polaris 10 chip) was still undergoing validation recently. They might be going with the cut-down chip first and the full one (perhaps with GDDR5X?) only to follow later. That would give AMD something to release later this year even if Vega doesn't drop until 2017.

 

[Sweepr]

Comparing dual Radeon RX 480 to single Geforce GTX 1080. Similar performance in AotS D12. So no single GPU contender to compete with GP104, otherwise they would have compared Radeon RX 480 8GB ($250?) to Geforce GTX 1070 instead.

Also 150W? That's the same TDP as the Geforce GTX 1070.

 

[gradoman]

Comparing dual Radeon RX 480 to single Geforce GTX 1080. Similar performance in AotS D12. So no single GPU contender to compete with GP104, otherwise they would have compared Radeon RX 480 8GB ($250?) to Geforce GTX 1070 instead.

Also 150W? That's the same TDP as the Geforce GTX 1070.

But GPU utilization on the AMD side was said to be 51% vs 90-something% for Nvidia.

 

[railven]

But GPU utilization on the AMD side was said to be 51% vs 90-something% for Nvidia.

Basically implies they could have run one card @ 99% load and probably be within spitting distance.

Would have more effect if they showed a single <$250 RX 480 within spitting distance of a $700 GTX 1080.

 

[sze5003]

$199 confirmed.

Was there a live cast or something I missed? How's this compare with the 1070? Or my guess is they haven't released that competing card info yet?

 

[DiogoDX]

51% gpu utilization means that the crossfire scaling was bad.

 

[Sweepr]

Was there a live cast or something I missed? How's this compare with the 1070? Or my guess is they haven't released that competing card info yet?

They were very careful not to compare single cards against GP104, not even in AotS. Also the price speaks for itself, I don't think they're competitors.

 

[sze5003]

They were very careful not to compare single cards against GP104, not even in AotS. Also the price speaks for itself, I don't think they're competitors.

Yea that is a very attractive price for a low to mid upgrade if anything. Although I usually think $3-350 is mid and anything more high end for myself. Then again when I purchased my card I paid a little over $500 and it was their top tier.

 

[exar333]

They were very careful not to compare single cards against GP104, not even in AotS. Also the price speaks for itself, I don't think they're competitors.

This. If it was similar performance, you can be darn sure it would be priced accordingly.

 

[exar333]

Yea that is a very attractive price for a low to mid upgrade if anything. Although I usually think $3-350 is mid and anything more high end for myself. Then again when I purchased my card I paid a little over $500 and it was their top tier.

Agree. A very capable card for <$200. I would be very hesitant to get the 4gb version though...with how much recent titles are throwing stuff into vram, that will be bare minimum for new cards that are anywhere close to midrange.

 

[Sweepr]

Not sure if this was already mentioned before:

According to multiple editors (who took part in Polaris Tech Day) Radeon RX 480 would offer performance between GeForce GTX 970 and GTX 980.

Ahead of this evening&#8217;s event, AMD sent out an email to the press teasing the first of their discrete Polaris architecture based cards. Called the Radeon RX 480, AMD has unveiled much of the product&#8217;s specifications, but also its price and availability. When the card hits the streets on June 29th, it will be starting at the crucial mainstream battleground price point of $199.

...This puts the lower bound of the GPU clockspeed at 1.08GHz and an upper bound (6 TFLOPs) at 1.3GHz, which would be in the range of 10-30% higher clocked than comparable Radeon 300 series cards.

In terms of raw numbers this puts the RX 480 just shy of the current Radeon R9 390.

1 month paper launch.

 

[maddie]

Not sure if this was already mentioned before:





1 month paper launch.

You can have that.

Everything else, I offer my condolences.

 

[Stuka87]

Comparing dual Radeon RX 480 to single Geforce GTX 1080. Similar performance in AotS D12. So no single GPU contender to compete with GP104, otherwise they would have compared Radeon RX 480 8GB ($250?) to Geforce GTX 1070 instead.

Also 150W? That's the same TDP as the Geforce GTX 1070.

Well, it comes down to testing, to see which one actually hits 150W. With the 970/980, they both used more than the advertised wattage. AMD may be playing it safe. The RX480 may use slightly less, so then reviews seem more positive when they say "less than advertised".

 

[DiogoDX]

I tink I just listen Lisa Su talking that polaris is $100 to $300 market.

 

[exar333]

Not sure if this was already mentioned before:





1 month paper launch.

LOL, yup! At least according to a lot of posters here. :thumbsdown:

 

[Sweepr]

You can have that.

Everything else, I offer my condolences.

Same 150W power as Geforce GTX 1070 (at lower performance tier?), demonstrated in dual-GPU mode against GP104, announced a month before availability (NVIDIA was criticized so I expect the same here), >5 Tflops (below R9 390), 10% higher clocks from a much smaller chip on a brand new FinFET process (if closer to 5 Tflops than 6 Tflops). Geforce GTX 970/980 performance according to rumours (below GM200/Fiji predictions), probably not impossible for GP106 to match or at least come close (at similar/smaller die/power?). Condolences accepted. The only interesting thing about this product so far is the price.

 

[ZGR]

Comparing dual Radeon RX 480 to single Geforce GTX 1080. Similar performance in AotS D12. So no single GPU contender to compete with GP104, otherwise they would have compared Radeon RX 480 8GB ($250?) to Geforce GTX 1070 instead.

Also 150W? That's the same TDP as the Geforce GTX 1070.

That graph was for the $200 RX 480. We don't know about the $300 version yet, right? Comparing 2 GPU's for $500 as = to 1 $700 GPU is a dumb marketing idea anyways. I'm sure most of us on this forum would gladly pay extra for a GPU solution that would work on every game vs just ones with a CFX/SLI profile.

I would wait and see about power consumption until we see the card in action. AMD has a history of having higher listed TDP's than real world performance.

edit: RX 480 with 8GB for $249?

 

[Head1985]

Looks pretty good.If its 10% above 390x for 199USD then its really nice card.If 480 overclock well this card will be big HIT.
2.8x perf/watt

Single 480=GTX1080 under dx12 in ashes of singularity(crossfire at 51% is like single card at 99%)

Btw reference looks better than Nvidia cooler for me

 

[el etro]

I tink I just listen Lisa Su talking that polaris is $100 to $300 market.

It looks like it is. Sadly it seems to not be the top bin.

 

[DDH]

Looks pretty good.If its 10% above 390x for 199USD then its really nice card.If its overclock well this card will be big HIT.
2.8x perf/watt

Single 480=1080 under dx12 in ashes of singularity(crossfire at 51% is like single card at 99%)

Btw reference looks better than Nvidia cooler for me

That graph is confusing. Because there is no way a single rx480 is going to perform like a 1080 in dx12 titles.

 

[Saylick]

Hm, looks like $250 for 8gb RX480. Perf is probably 390X + 10% in DX11 games, potentially another +10% in DX12 games. I'm thinking it may catch up to a stock 980 Ti with a decent OC.

 

[positivedoppler]

There's 3 (4 of you count the live stream thread) about Polaris, can we consolidate? This really is too much.

 

[positivedoppler]

That graph is confusing. Because there is no way a single rx480 is going to perform like a 1080 in dx12 titles.

yes confusing