Unless you can play at 100 FPS 1440p, the game isn't enjoyable. Haven't you heard? Did I mention I can afford two $600 graphics cards? Aren't I just the greatest?
I really wanted to buy an Nvidia GTX 1070 to replace my current card. But, i need a new monitor and wanted a 27" 144Hz version. Problem is that all the Gsync monitors are very expensive. The FreeSync monitor's are far less.
So i'm now debating on getting a nice RX 480 to replace my GTX 970. I get more power, less power consumption, full DX12 support, and double the ram, plus FreeSync.
And much cheaper overall. Does this sound like a good idea?
The trend will not only continue it will accelerate.
Gcn is a far more modern arch. It is used by the consoles.
The reason it will continue can be seen in sheer facts about performance also for Maxwell generation vs gcn 1. Go look how eg 970 performs now vs 1.5 years ago relative to 7970. Put on some dx12 games and what happens? It gets ugly.
Pascall is a Maxwell arch with facelift but its mostly lipstick (fine preemption granularity in........cuda !). It shows in dx12 and it will be blatantly obvious when nv new arch arives. Pascal is like amd 6 series just far less facelifted.
The new polaris consoles is comming this autum. The devs is learning gcn 2. Gcn 2 and forward will fit those specs. As zlatan said years back : buy a 290x. Was this man right or not ?
A 390x today is after tpu assessment 73% perf of 1070 at 1440.
If a aib devil 480 1500 is say 85% Its not a long way. Its far far shorter than from 7870 to 680 that is performing similar today.
With clean dx12 games only and vr i have no doubt a average 480 aib will match a average 1070 aib mid 2018. Its probably more than halfway to a 1080.
But most PCs game worse than the PS4 anyway so what does "pcmasterrace" really mean? Even when your specs are better, the actual experience is often worse due to PC Master Bloat. Hopefully, with the RX400 series, ANY PC, even with a 460, will game better than a console, even when taking bloat into account.
I really wanted to buy an Nvidia GTX 1070 to replace my current card. But, i need a new monitor and wanted a 27" 144Hz version. Problem is that all the Gsync monitors are very expensive. The FreeSync monitor's are far less.
So i'm now debating on getting a nice RX 480 to replace my GTX 970. I get more power, less power consumption, full DX12 support, and double the ram, plus FreeSync.
And much cheaper overall. Does this sound like a good idea?
GTX750TI and Core I3 says hello, since the main problem on PS4 was the crappy CPU, people where mathing console quality on several games with just a 750TI and Core I3, whiout the fancy DX12. Go and search youtube.
so what does "pcmasterrace" really mean?
Like I said 2 days ago, most review samples are having trouble reaching anything beyond 1350 MHz. The highest reported clock is 1379 MHz. The member of the PCGamesHardware team confirmed that their sample did not reach 1400 MHz.
I dont care that is used on consoles, what is good for consoles does not mean is good for us. The same has been said about the current gen and ended in nothing.
Hell im not even sure if DX12 can be used in PC outside games with permanent development in its life time. DX12 is something that can be contra-productive, for example, how a DX12 game will run 3-4 years after launched with cards that never existed while it was developed? Im really not sure, but talking about DX12 future is off tropic.
The trend will accelerate? so... AMD will be selling RX480 rebrands for the next 8 years? I rather that to slow down actually. I want to see the RX480 reeplacement to be far better in less than 2 years, not that they will keep re-selling the card over and over.
Some games.
Most of the newer one is not possible, Digital Foundry test this often, the trend now is you need a gtx 960 to match PS4 experience.
It's expected since console API allows devs to do so much more with limited hardware power. As devs get more experience with it, they will crank out better looking games running on obsolete console tech. It's happened for every console generation that ever existed. Mid-way into it's life, you start to see really awesome games.
This is why Polaris is good news for PC gamers. RX 460 and 470 are cheap and bring higher performance down in price.
AMD Radeon RX 480 failed to OC to 1400 MHz
Call sony and ms and tell them to go and search youtube !GTX750TI and Core I3 says hello, since the main problem on PS4 was the crappy CPU, people where mathing console quality on several games with just a 750TI and Core I3, whiout the fancy DX12. Go and search youtube.
It's kind of a circlejerk that started from a sarcastic joke from a video game review.
It's probably not something that should be taken overly seriously, but some people do seem to take it overly seriously, so it's hard to say.
You could just as well have said that 4 years ago.
Yet this is where we stand today just before gcn gen 4 arives.
A 7870 gcn gen 1 is as fast as a 680.
And there is a reason for it. Sony, MS and Dice dont care what you think about dx 12. Someone took that decision for you 4 years back and now the performance results speak for themselves. Games that eg hits a wall with drawcalls and uses single core is a thing of the past and arch that rely on a fat api as inefficient protection layer is tanking in performance games.
And btw i am sure dx 11 well be there for indie games the next 8 years. Its just hardly aaa titles and frontrunners of perf.
And there is a reason for it. Sony, MS and Dice dont care what you think about dx 12. Someone took that decision for you 4 years back and now the performance results speak for themselves. Games that eg hits a wall with drawcalls and uses single core is a thing of the past and arch that rely on a fat api as inefficient protection layer is tanking in performance games.
OC performance don't matter that much, matters more what kind of stock performance they can extract of it.
From the Videocardz source with that same claim that the reference card doesn't OC much, they said every custom RX 480 with 8pin+6pin runs at 1.5ghz.
Well they will trail untill they bring the new arch. I thought Pascal was it.Seems to me it would be the opposite. AMD has the advantage now because GCN is more suited to DX12 than current nVidia architectures. OTOH, they leaves little room for additional improvements from AMD (already optimized), while plenty of room for nVidia to improve, and given the resources they have, I cant imagine them trailing in DX12 performance forever.
(Intel even charges extra for K models, if it didn't matter why could they do that?)
Cry me a river.Again, i dont give a crap about Sony... DICE??? the same ones that wanted Mantle and then DROPPED SUPPORT FOR IT after BF4? then procceded to launch Battlefront 3 what can be the most well optimised DX11 game out there? In what a GTX750TI with a i3 can match PS4? dont make me laught.
And MS does not care either way.
Anyway, Im to belive that someone wants to pay more money to develop for DX12 on PC? that has to be a joke. Please stop with the nonsence for the current gen that never happened, DICE dropping Mantle on PC is the perfect example of this.
Call sony and ms and tell them to go and search youtube !
We are hopefully only 2 weeks until first aib arives then we will start to know. Thats great.Where does PCGH staff (the source) says this? I'm curious to know who's the person that has access to dozens of custom Radeon RX 480 right now, to be able claim all of them run at 1.5 GHz?
It gets crushed by consoles in both Rise of the Tomb Raider and DOOM.Shivansps said:GTX750TI and Core I3 says hello, since the main problem on PS4 was the crappy CPU, people where mathing console quality on several games with just a 750TI and Core I3, whiout the fancy DX12. Go and search youtube.
First and foremost, the venerable DF budget PC with an i3 processor and GTX 750 Ti finally met its match with Rise of the Tomb Raider. Running with settings similar to Xbox One, we found that testing areas saw the game turn in frame-rates between 13 and 25fps.