AMD Polaris Thread: Radeon RX 480, RX 470 & RX 460 launching June 29th

[ShintaiDK]

What? You can find 380s for like under 200 bucks and that has GDDR5, why wouldn't the 480? Weird reasoning.

I refer to 8Ghz GDDR5.

 

[ShintaiDK]

Which still makes the RX480 look better on paper. It has full async compute capabilities (no preemption band aid), a wider bus width, and it may even sport much better DX11/tessellation performance vs older GCN cards. On paper this Card looks to be insane for the asking price, if overlocked to let's say 1200+Mhz it comes around the 6TFLOPS territory which is massive for a 200+$ card IMHO. I predict this card selling like hot cakes.

The card is already clocked at 1200Mhz or higher. I think the leaks showed 1266Mhz.

 

[jj109]

With a 256-bit bus and >5 TFLOP they have to be using 7GHz-8GHz GDDR5. I find it unlikely that AMD has managed to surpass Nvidia in memory compression technology in two generations (they didn't even use it in GCN 1.1!)

GTX 960 at $200 MSRP has 7 GHz so it can't be that costly.

The only reason they wouldn't have high frequency GDDR5 is if the memory controller can't handle it.

 

[dacostafilipe]

Too bad NVIDIA demoed Pascal concurrently running compute and graphics and getting 15-20% higher perf. This FUD is getting boring so I'll repost this video once again:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKkFqG77-x4

This has nothing to do with what AMD call's async compute.

That, and they run FRAPS in a DX12 demo :sneaky:

 

[showb1z]

150W TDP for ~Hawaii performance. My 1080 looks better and better. Far from 1070 performance, will lose big time in perf/watt to GP106. The 199$ model is 4GB only.

Glad you could join us, I see you're on top form for this 480 preview.
Care to share any insights that aren't based on assumptions and skewed comparisons?

Seriously. In the next months Nvidia will own the high-end and AMD will own the midrange. Pretty straightforward. No need for any more GPU shitfests. Everyone return to their side of the playground.

 

[redzo]

With a 256-bit bus and >5 TFLOP they have to be using 7GHz-8GHz GDDR5. I find it unlikely that AMD has managed to surpass Nvidia in memory compression technology in two generations (they didn't even use it in GCN 1.1!)

GTX 960 at $200 MSRP has 7 GHz so it can't be that costly.

The only reason they wouldn't have high frequency GDDR5 is if the memory controller can't handle it.

Except this time around 4GB is the minimum(2GB/4GB vs 4GB/8GB). Memory price is affecting the overall board price. If your aiming for high volumes of the 8GB variant, memory cost is important.

 

[tential]

What i like about nvidia is that they never compare their new GPU with AMD GPUS or their old tech. They totally keep it simple on to the point. ATOS compression was way way off. Many websiting are saying why AMD needed to put different settings to compare it with GTX 1080.

Yes, I love how Nvidia NEVER compares their GPUs to their old tech.

Or wait.... maybe they do...

 

[Head1985]

We already got the 3Dmark numbers if true. And GP106 is 192bit, 6GB 90-100W 249-279$ from what the leaks show so far.

around 10% faster than 390x/GTX980 for 199?
I cant wait for this card..
If this card can OC and OC atleast 15-20% then it should match stock GTX980TI.This is like new 4850/4870.
Stock clock is only 1200-1266Mhz so oc to 1400-1500 should do that.

 

[NTMBK]

Looks like a solid card. Looking forward to NVidia's riposte, I wonder if the 1060 will be as good value.

 

[R0H1T]

around 10% faster than 390x/GTX980 for 199?
I cant wait for this card..
If this card can OC and OC atleast 15-20% then it should match stock GTX980TI.This is like new 4850/4870.
Stock clock is only 1200-1266Mhz so oc to 1400-1500 should do that.

Anywhere close to Maxwell's top OC clocks would make it the card to own in the sub 350$ category.

 

[tential]

Well, looking over at neogaf, they are quite excited actually. Not a long thread, but the pricepoint definitely has a lot more people excited at $200 there.

 

[DarkKnightDude]

Well, looking over at neogaf, they are quite excited actually. Not a long thread, but the pricepoint definitely has a lot more people excited at $200 there.

I think the VR part is making people interested as well. If AMD truly did lower the threshold to 200 USD, this will help immensely.

Though obviously now we need cheaper VR headsets lol

 

[tential]

I think the VR part is making people interested as well. If AMD truly did lower the threshold to 200 USD, this will help immensely.

Though obviously now we need cheaper VR headsets lol

Personally I think the VR part is useless for the vast majority of the $200 purchasing market.

By the time VR is affordable to them, they probably will get new GPUs.

 

[flopper]

Personally I think the VR part is useless for the vast majority of the $200 purchasing market.

dont work in marketing I guess.

 

[beginner99]

Personally I think the VR part is useless for the vast majority of the $200 purchasing market.

By the time VR is affordable to them, they probably will get new GPUs.

With that I agree. If you can spend $700 on a VR head set, spending $500 on a GPU should not be that huge of an issue. I would first spend on GPUs to run 4K or 1440p 120 hz and if I have money to spare, get a VR headset. But for sure not save on the GPU to be able to afford VR headset.

 

[C@mM!]

The VR thing is a little chicken\egg. If you don't have cheap VR cards, theres no economies of scale to sell VR headsets, and viceaversa.

For anyone still running 1080p, this thing appears to be a freaking steal. What I'm more interested in atm is if clockspeed is currently AMD making sure to hit a 150w TDP, or if this thing clocks like Pascal.

 

[desprado]

Yes, I love how Nvidia NEVER compares their GPUs to their old tech.

Or wait.... maybe they do...

Try to read carefully i am talking AMD old tech and new tech.

 

[Gundark]

Now should be a good time for AMD to adopt nVidia strategy and take preorders before 1060 arrives.

 

[jpiniero]

around 10% faster than 390x/GTX980 for 199?
I cant wait for this card..
If this card can OC and OC atleast 15-20% then it should match stock GTX980TI.This is like new 4850/4870.
Stock clock is only 1200-1266Mhz so oc to 1400-1500 should do that.

I'm assuming the $199 card is the lower one (the C4 one). I'm also assuming they are clocking it about as high as it will go, hence why it's 150 W TDP instead of the 125 W that was rumored earlier.

 

[desprado]

I just do not understand why AMD needed different settings on ATOS for 480 CF. People say that nvidia is not fair and do not post negative about AMD. Some people are felling right about AMD move for lowering settings on 480 CF to show benchmark of ATOS.

 

[Freddy1765]

Any hope this will impact 1070 pricing? D:

 

[littleg]

I just do not understand why AMD needed different settings on ATOS for 480 CF. People say that nvidia is not fair and do not post negative about AMD. Some people are felling right about AMD move for lowering settings on 480 CF to show benchmark of ATOS.

Do you have a source for the different settings? The benchmark links posted so far have shown the same settings.

 

[redzo]

Since performance looks very close to the gtx980, a power consumption test between this two may end up quite interesting. AMD bragged a lot about efficiency; maybe too much.

 

[C@mM!]

Do you have a source for the different settings? The benchmark links posted so far have shown the same settings.

During the livestream, the AMD card looked worse.

But the AOTS benchmark isn't an exact replicable benchmark, and we've seen links to the AOTS benchmarks with those values showing same settings, so I think this is debunked.

 

[flopper]

Since performance looks very close to the gtx980, a power consumption test between this two may end up quite interesting. AMD bragged a lot about efficiency; maybe too much.

2.8 improvement with amd tech behind it.
how is that bragging?