AMD Polaris Thread: Radeon RX 480, RX 470 & RX 460 launching June 29th

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sze5003

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I want to buy 480 as soon as its out but I wonder if my monitor - samsung s23a700d

http://www.samsung.com/africa_en/consumer/it/monitor/led-monitor/LS23A700DS/XA

If this monitor will be able to be used with rx 480?
Also I have only cable like this - http://www.cvpoxford.co.uk/img/dvi.jpg

but since this monitor also has hdmi port I will just need to buy one cable, right? Nothing more.
There will be a display port to dvi adapter as someone mentioned here in the thread with a pic of the back of the box. If your monitor has hdmi you can just use an hdmi cable. I only have a dvi monitor and my mobo has hdmi as well as display ports.

Unless I wait for aib models then I have to use the adapter.
 

SSBrain

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Well, if you would ask me, what type of games are possibly ROP limited to a higher degree, i would answer games with above average resolution with simple shaders while running at above average framerate - in short games with low shader performance requirement per pixel. I think this fits nicely to the SteamVR benchmark.
I think you're right.

And honestly, if i were AMD, i would not have doubled the ROPs just because RX480 is closer to 390 instead of 390X in one benchmark, which could be regarded as worst case. You never tailor the architecture to extremes if you are a clever architect.
I remember reading somewhere that the RX480 was supposed to have the VR performance of a 500$ card however....


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Found it here: http://www.amd.com/en-us/press-releases/Pages/radeon-rx-480-2016may31.aspx

AMD said:
[...] Set for launch and availability on June 29th, the Radeon™ RX 480 will deliver the world’s most affordable solution for premium PC VR experiences, delivering VR capability common in $500 GPUs.

I don't believe it currently has the "VR capability common in $500 GPUs". Things may change, though.
 

StrangerGuy

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Team Green is

I cannot take anyone's post on this forum seriously who recommended GTX750/750Ti over R9 270/270X and GTX950/960 over R9 280X/380X/R9 290, but then turns around and pushes GTX1070 over the RX 480. Back then a $250-280 R9 290 was as fast as $400 GTX960 SLI.

But-but-but the GTX 960 ~170W peak power savings over 290 of averaged 2 hours daily of gaming everyday @ $15 per year.

Bonus points raving about negligible NV power savings while still using a power guzzling OCed X58 rig just on idle.
 

poofyhairguy

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It's absolutely baffling and shameful that this even needs to be explained. I don't understand where the rabid Nvidia fanboyism developed or why it exists, but holy hell it is nothing but a massively negative force on the entire GPU market.

Men are brand whores (we love to root for a "team") and PC gaming is mostly a man's world.
 

3DVagabond

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You're probably right. Looking at my bill I pay .06 per kWh for "Energy Charge", .019 per kWh for "Peak Capacity Charge", .016 per kWh for "Fuel Adjustment", and .010 per kWh for "Regulatroy Adjustment". My total electricity charge divided by my kWh used was .11 cents a kWh. In the winter it looks like I averaged closer to .10 per kWh on my bill.

Imagine going to a bar/pub and seeing "Draft beer 99¢". The bar keeper comes over and says, "That'll be $2.00." The cost of recycling the keg, a line fee for the tubing and upkeep, gratuity, environmental fee for the cost of providing heat lights etc...,parking fee, weekend or after hours fees when applicable, and any other stupid fee they could think of.

Gotta love utility companies.
 

Mopetar

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That's because the Valve VR benchmark score is not linear in the framerates. As such it gives you a wrong impression of distance.

I'm not really into VR gaming or familiar with this benchmark, but can anyone explain how it scales or what the numbers actually mean?
 

sm625

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Imagine going to a bar/pub and seeing "Draft beer 99¢". The bar keeper comes over and says, "That'll be $2.00." The cost of recycling the keg, a line fee for the tubing and upkeep, gratuity, environmental fee for the cost of providing heat lights etc...,parking fee, weekend or after hours fees when applicable, and any other stupid fee they could think of.

Gotta love utility companies.

To be fair, my electricity bill is broken down into a bunch of subcategories. But the overall cost for me in Michigan is within a penny of what that chart showed a few posts back.
 

sze5003

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3d?
I dont want to use 3d by the way, so will I be okay with just buying one new hdmi cable?
Yea you will be fine. Since your monitor has an hdmi port just get the hdmi cable or use the adapter that comes with the card for your dvi port.
 

Thala

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I'm not really into VR gaming or familiar with this benchmark, but can anyone explain how it scales or what the numbers actually mean?

SSBrain gave some details one page back. You might want to find hist post
 

Stuka87

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Yea you will be fine. Since your monitor has an hdmi port just get the hdmi cable or use the adapter that comes with the card for your dvi port.

Except that with an HDMI cable he will be limited to 60Hz. Which kind of makes having a 120Hz display a waste.
 

sze5003

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Except that with an HDMI cable he will be limited to 60Hz. Which kind of makes having a 120Hz display a waste.
Does the same thing happen using the included dvi adapter? If that's the case then waiting for aib models seems like the right choice.
 

agfkfhahddhdn

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Yep, many people don't care about actual gaming but want to "win".

I've bought more Nvidia cards than AMD ones, but I'm firmly buying AMD until Nvidia supports open standards like Adaptive-Sync and stops lying to their customers about hardware / software specs (3.5GB, Async Compute support in Maxwell, etc).

I'm still unsure what I'll buy, the legit 480 reviews on Wednesday will probably make my decision, but I'd be lying if I said Nvidia fanboys didn't make me want to buy a 480 purely out of spite.
 

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I'm still unsure what I'll buy, the legit 480 reviews on Wednesday will probably make my decision, but I'd be lying if I said Nvidia fanboys didn't make me want to buy a 480 purely out of spite.

the throttling issues of the ref design might sway you to nVidia
 

Mopetar

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SSBrain gave some details one page back. You might want to find hist post

I read his post, but it doesn't really explain the score. I get how a 0 is awarded (it can't make 90 fps no matter how much it tanks the quality) but it doesn't explain what the difference between a 6.2 and 7.7 actually is.

Does it even have any scale? For example, is the difference between 5 and 5.5 the same as 6 to 6.6 because both are 10% or how does it work?

A few other posters said they've gotten as much as a .5 difference across multiple runs, which seems to imply the benchmark is either useless or the score makes no sense in a way that a person would normally process numbers.
 

PeckingOrder

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So you can be guaranteed throttling with "premium" FE cards?

I'm not saying the FE cooler is any better (I mean it probably is but it has to dissipate a bit more heat too)

just saying the ref cooler on the RX 480 is worse than what Intel includes with their lowest end desktop CPUs (and they got about 1/4 TDP of this gpu) and it will make RX 480 throttle hard.
 

RussianSensation

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But-but-but the GTX 960 ~170W peak power savings over 290 of averaged 2 hours daily of gaming everyday @ $15 per year.

Bonus points raving about negligible NV power savings while still using a power guzzling OCed X58 rig just on idle.



Double bonus points for blindly recommending GTX1070 while ignoring that a large fraction of the ~85% target market AMD is going after with RX 470/480 doesn't even have a CPU at the 2600K/2500K OC level.

In fact, if RX 480 ~ R9 390, I would estimate that a large portion of AMD's target market is going to be CPU bottlenecked. The % gains GTX1070 shows over R9 390 (and subsequently RX 480) will not translate to real world gains for the i3/i5/FX (and older i7) users.

http://forums.anandtech.com/showpost.php?p=38321281&postcount=15

Most professional reviews are using i7 4790K/5820K/5960X/4930K/6700K OC, etc. but of course as you know, CPU bottlenecks don't exist on AT either. 8xMSAA 1080p gaming with a 1070 all the way!
 
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I'm not saying the FE cooler is any better (I mean it probably is but it has to dissipate a bit more heat too)

just saying the ref cooler on the RX 480 is worse than what Intel includes with their lowest end desktop CPUs (and they got about 1/4 TDP of this gpu) and it will make RX 480 throttle hard.

What source do you have for any of this?
 

PeckingOrder

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What source do you have for any of this?

there have been plenty of legit looking leaks with GPU-z data & all you really need to do is look at the cooler - there's no way it won't throttle the card

38ish hours to go - I'm fairly confident throttling will be one of the major drawbacks mentioned in the reviews
 
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