AMD Polaris Thread: Radeon RX 480, RX 470 & RX 460 launching June 29th

[flopper]

I just do not understand why AMD needed different settings on ATOS for 480 CF..

They use the same.
the game change weather which explains the discrepancy.

 

[showb1z]

I just do not understand why AMD needed different settings on ATOS for 480 CF. People say that nvidia is not fair and do not post negative about AMD. Some people are felling right about AMD move for lowering settings on 480 CF to show benchmark of ATOS.

Are you going to repeat this claim every page?
While ignoring this:

http://forums.anandtech.com/showpost.php?p=38261169&postcount=317

 

[SpaceBeer]

Regarding VR marketing - There are already 300$ VR sets (like OSVR). Maybe not as good as OR or Vive, but good enough for nice VR experience. By the end of the year, we might get some more sets in 250-350$ range. So if you compare price for GPU-VR combo, it might be 500$ vs 1000$, which is noticeable difference

 

[redzo]

2.8 improvement with amd tech behind it.
how is that bragging?

They say it's up to 2.8 and they could compare it with their previous offering, which makes matters worse. Then there is the data showing the 980 at being quite capable at this department:
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/NVIDIA/GeForce_GTX_1080/27.html

 

[Qwertilot]

Any hope this will impact 1070 pricing? D:

No. They're in different segments.

If AMD are feeling aggressive they might start a price war vs the 1050/60, but I can't truly see that working out too well for them. NV can happily respond and sit on the profits from elsewhere in the stack.

1070 pricing is quite likely to come down in ~1 years time when the stack realigns/the big cards appear etc.

With the efficiency, I wouldn't be remotely surprised if the process was such that the top clocked 480 SKUs were quite a bit less efficient than the lower clocked ones. You'd definitely hope so, or it doesn't look like they'll get much traction for notebooks etc.

 

[DarkKnightDude]

Wait, so since the "67DF:C7" in the Ashes benchmark is the RX 480, so this leaked bench got the names and number correct. Assuming this bench still holds up...

The "67DF:C4" must be a 470X? 970 level performance for under 200 bucks is going to sell.

 

[Glo.]

C7 in every single benchmark was 8 GB Model.

There is also C10 version of Polaris GPU. The question is: what is it, and will we see it live?

 

[96Firebird]

Surely this has HDMI 2.0, right? I see no mention of it, but I have to think it is included this time around.

 

[DarkKnightDude]

C7 in every single benchmark was 8 GB Model.

There is also C10 version of Polaris GPU. The question is: what is it, and will we see it live?

That makes sense.

Maybe C10 is supposed to be the 480X or 490?

EDIT: Wait Glo, this article: https://www.techpowerup.com/223043/amd-radeon-rx-480-clock-speeds-revealed-clocked-above-1-2-ghz

Doesn't this mean its the C7 and C4 is something else then? Now kinda confused.

 

[Element115]

Surely this has HDMI 2.0, right? I see no mention of it, but I have to think it is included this time around.

http://www.amd.com/en-us/innovations/software-technologies/radeon-polaris

HDMI® 2.0b just as Pascal.

 

[96Firebird]

http://www.amd.com/en-us/innovations/software-technologies/radeon-polaris

HDMI® 2.0b just as Pascal.

Ah thanks, the more I delay finishing my office and building my HTPC, the more options I have...

 

[Noctifer616]

http://www.amd.com/en-us/innovations/software-technologies/radeon-polaris

HDMI® 2.0b just as Pascal.

Doesn't Polaris support HDMI 2.0a as well?

 

[agfkfhahddhdn]

We already got the 3Dmark numbers if true. And GP106 is 192bit, 6GB 90-100W 249-279$ from what the leaks show so far.

Where would the 1070 slot in? Polaris looks just shy of the 1080, you'd think the 1070 would be somewhere in the same area, but AMD has a supposedly huge price advantage ($199 vs $379).

 

[96Firebird]

Where would the 1070 slot in? Polaris looks just shy of the 1080, you'd think the 1070 would be somewhere in the same area, but AMD has a supposedly huge price advantage ($199 vs $379).

The Polaris you are looking at (that is close to 1080) is crossfired cards...

 

[agfkfhahddhdn]

The Polaris you are looking at (that is close to 1080) is crossfired cards...

whooooooooops, thanks for clarifying, knew I was probably missing something

 

[DidelisDiskas]

If it holds up to the claims, then this is my next gpu.

 

[Element115]

Doesn't Polaris support HDMI 2.0a as well?

There seems to have been a miscommunication. https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/4jxjx0/amd_enjoys_a_market_share_increase/d3ap75p

HDMI 2.0a >features HDMI 2.0b is weird anyhow.

 

[agfkfhahddhdn]

So I have to ask...as someone who hasn't been following hardware developments closely for, honestly, the last there years, where do the GTX 1070/1080 and the Polaris fit into the conversation, based on what we know? Someone earlier itt suggested that Nvidia would own the high-end, AMD would own the midrange, and there'd be little direct competition between the two. Does that seem to be accurate? Regarding what Firebird said above, about the Polaris benchmarks including Crossfired cards, does that mean Polaris wouldn't be comparable to the 1070, even at the $299 vs $379 price point? And I'm aware that neither of these have actually launched yet, so any answers can't really be final.

Sorry for the noob-ish questions, been out of the loop for a very long time...

 

[Glo.]

That makes sense.

Maybe C10 is supposed to be the 480X or 490?

EDIT: Wait Glo, this article: https://www.techpowerup.com/223043/amd-radeon-rx-480-clock-speeds-revealed-clocked-above-1-2-ghz

Doesn't this mean its the C7 and C4 is something else then? Now kinda confused.

There is no confusion. Every benchmark for 67:C7 was with 8 GB of RAM. Latest benchmarks were also with 1266 MHz core clock. RX 480 is 67:C7.

Aparat from that, there is also 67:C10 version of this GPU. And still, The question whether we will se it alive or not remains.

 

[dark zero]

Rumoured pricing for 8GB model is $229.

http://wccftech.com/amd-radeon-rx-480-polaris-10-launch/

http://darlyshome.com/?p=38315

That card will sell way more than 1070 for people who want just enough. 1070 cost over 400 dollars due demand... And considering that Apple ia about to start the massive producción of A10 chips por iPhone 7...

BTW... Where is Polaris 11? About time to see a fanless card from AMD

 

[n0x1ous]

if this thing is stock clocked and has 1 pin with 150w tdp this thing won't have much overclock room unless AIBs are going to use 8pin.....

 

[tential]

Comparing dual Radeon RX 480 to single Geforce GTX 1080. Similar performance in AotS D12. So no single GPU contender to compete with GP104, otherwise they would have compared Radeon RX 480 8GB ($250?) to Geforce GTX 1070 instead.

Also 150W? That's the same TDP as the Geforce GTX 1070.

Since when was GPU releases about "Fighting" the other cards "top" card?

Nvidia has no RX 480 contender. AT $230, the RX480 is close to the GTX 1070 in performance....

For $350, I wonder what AMD will bring?

Considering how poorly the GTX 1080 and 1070 are OCing right now, this Pascal Launch doesn't look that exciting. But almost GTX 1070 performance for $230 and GTX 1080 performance for $460. That's exciting.....

Also, lets say AMD releases the fully enabled chip later down the line at $300.... or even $350.... still cheaper than a 1070, and definitely going to be faster with the fully enabled chip.

Looks like Polaris and Vega may be the better architectures out the gate this generation. Pascal's regressed IPC really hurts it. Especially with OCing.

 

[sm625]

The "67DF:C4" must be a 470X? 970 level performance for under 200 bucks is going to sell.

Wouldnt 67DF:C4 be the 4GB version of the RX 480?

 

[crisium]

So I have to ask...as someone who hasn't been following hardware developments closely for, honestly, the last there years, where do the GTX 1070/1080 and the Polaris fit into the conversation, based on what we know? Someone earlier itt suggested that Nvidia would own the high-end, AMD would own the midrange, and there'd be little direct competition between the two. Does that seem to be accurate? Regarding what Firebird said above, about the Polaris benchmarks including Crossfired cards, does that mean Polaris wouldn't be comparable to the 1070, even at the $299 vs $379 price point? And I'm aware that neither of these have actually launched yet, so any answers can't really be final.

Sorry for the noob-ish questions, been out of the loop for a very long time...

Do you remember 2012-2014? GTX 1080 and 1070 are GTX 680/770 and 660Ti/760. RX480 (Polaris 10), probably has two models that are 7870/270X and 7850/265 - probably.

^positioning and relative performance. Obviously Polaris 10 is far faster than a 7870.

Different price and performance segments this time, unlike 4 years ago where AMD had the complete stack of 7850-7970 before Nvidia launched anything. Thus is the reality of AMD going for HBM2. The 7950/7970 successor is Vega, which is slated for early 2017 but rumoured to possibly come out Q4 this year.

 

[Ancalagon44]

So I have to ask...as someone who hasn't been following hardware developments closely for, honestly, the last there years, where do the GTX 1070/1080 and the Polaris fit into the conversation, based on what we know? Someone earlier itt suggested that Nvidia would own the high-end, AMD would own the midrange, and there'd be little direct competition between the two. Does that seem to be accurate? Regarding what Firebird said above, about the Polaris benchmarks including Crossfired cards, does that mean Polaris wouldn't be comparable to the 1070, even at the $299 vs $379 price point? And I'm aware that neither of these have actually launched yet, so any answers can't really be final.

Sorry for the noob-ish questions, been out of the loop for a very long time...

I think that will be the case for the first few months until both Nvidia and AMD launch their complete product lines. Ie, there will be a readjustment after AMD releases Vega 10 and 11, and after Nvidia releases GP106.

So, there will be little direct competition for the next few months, but that will change.