AMD Polaris Thread: Radeon RX 480, RX 470 & RX 460 launching June 29th

[Sweepr]

RADEON RX 480 8G GDDR5 PCI-E HDMI 3XDP UEFI

£210.99 ex VAT
£253.18 inc VAT

www.pcworldbusiness.co.uk/catalogue/item/P240047P

 

[topmounter]

AMD Provides Sneak Peek of Full Line of Radeon™ RX Series Graphics Processors at E3

Press Release: www.amd.com/en-us/press-releases/Pages/e3-sneak-peek-2016jun13.aspx

Not a single mention of Free / Active Sync D:

 

[happy medium]

RADEON RX 480 8G GDDR5 PCI-E HDMI 3XDP UEFI

£210.99 ex VAT
£253.18 inc VAT

www.pcworldbusiness.co.uk/catalogue/item/P240047P

what that's 360$ is it not?

 

[AtenRa]

RADEON RX 480 8G GDDR5 PCI-E HDMI 3XDP UEFI

£210.99 ex VAT
£253.18 inc VAT

www.pcworldbusiness.co.uk/catalogue/item/P240047P

Ehm that is 320 Euro, way above MSRP

 

[MrTeal]

what that's 360$ is it not?

http://gbp.fxexchangerate.com/usd/211-currency-rates.html

Yeah, pretty pricey

 

[Erithan13]

£210!! Oh yeah, go AMD!!

.....excluding VAT :'(

I knew those $200=£160 predictions were a little on the optimistic side. For reference the 390x is only a little more at around £280 or so. Still that's only one price point, every chance other retailers might go a bit lower and over time it may well approach the magic £200 mark. I'll wait for the benchmarks to see how much of an improvement it is over the 290. With Ethereum creeping up in price at the moment that could make a ferocious mining card even at £250.

 

[cytg111]

Why is everyone suddely talking about VAT? Not like it is a new phenomenon...

 

[Bacon1]

what that's 360$ is it not?

Without VAT its $300. US has differing taxes by state / county / zipcode. From 0 - 10%

 

[khon]

RADEON RX 480 8G GDDR5 PCI-E HDMI 3XDP UEFI

£210.99 ex VAT
£253.18 inc VAT

www.pcworldbusiness.co.uk/catalogue/item/P240047P

That's a little less than the cheapest 970 on the same website, which is about what I expected.

EU prices are always higher than a pure currency conversion would lead you to believe.

 

[3DVagabond]

I don't know how to make this any more clear.

A $200 minimum spec GPU for VR is useless. A person who isn't willing to spend more than $200 on a GPU won't spend $500+ for the headset. By the time the headset is affordable, they won't use an the 480. They'll use a far better GPU that is out at the time that can actually handle VR games.

Because VR headsets are not going to go down in price.

Thank god I'm not the only one. This is another instance of AMD marketing doing TERRIBLE.
Have you seen the arguments of the RX 480? People don't crossshop the GTX 1070/ RX480 because it's two different price brackets. $400+ and $200. But it's perfectly reasonable now to assume the RX480 price bracket purchasers are now interested in even far more expensive headsets than a GTX 1070? This is just insane.

I can't believe you agree with this dribble. If it does the job @ $200 then what is the motivation to spend more?



The big hold up for acceptance will be the high cost of the headsets. Not the low cost of the GPU.

 

[happy medium]

Without VAT its $300. US has differing taxes by state / county / zipcode. From 0 - 10%

SO your saying if you live in Europe you don't pay VAT? and you pay VAT if you buy from Europe and live in the U.S.?
I no nothing educate me. thanks.
or are you saying
that the price is 300$ + 60$ VAT tax in Europe?= 360$U.S.

is that why a gtx1070 is like 500$ over there?

 

[MrTeal]

I wouldn't put too much faith in this as indicative of the price you'll see for the card in the US.
If you search for a 1080 on their site, they also have a £541 GTX1080 FE. That's US$770 on an already released card. We'll have to see on launch day what MSRP is, and more importantly what the actually available price is.

 

[crisium]

Not a single mention of Free / Active Sync D:

AMD marketing really does love to fail. Unless some genius can point out to silly layman me how mentioning Freesync could possibly hurt AMD or help Nvidia. I'd love to try to get into the brain of the AMD marketing machine.

 

[garagisti]

I believe nothing yet. I still expect the worse, 2304SP is the full chip and it trades blows with the 390X.

If stock RX 480 beats Fury in the overall TPU, Sweclockers, and Computerbase averages I'll eat something.

Catfood or go home

 

[oussama-tn]

The IPC regression myth strikes again

°I ve been reading about this IPC regression for days on this forum and since im kinda new to hardware, can any one please tell me what is ipc and what is ipc regression in words normal folks would understand.:\

 

[3DVagabond]

Haha I'm just now beginning to power up my hype levels!

Everyone should be excited! If a 480 is really such an OC beast, then 1070 prices will go down to where nVidia advertised them and not $450 like they are currently. But even then.. a $200 card that offers the same game experience as a $380 card.. If true nVidia better be rolling out that good ole PR department.

Anyone who thought that GP104 was worth buying at the prices they are asking is completely indoctrinated anyway. $700 (or $600 eventually) for a midrange sku is just crazy. It's like battered spouse syndrome. People keep getting abused but they keep going back for more.

You wait and see, if this is true and the 1070 O/C will be 10%-15% faster than the 480 O/C and people will still spend an extra 50% for it and somehow justify it. In DX12 games it might not be any faster at all.

 

[happy medium]

°I ve been reading about this IPC regression for days on this forum and since im kinda new to hardware, can any one please tell me what is ipc and what is ipc regression in words normal folks would understand.:\

let me try....

If you ride a bicycle and put it in first gear and it takes you 100 times around with the peddles to get around the block thats lower IPC then say peddling 50 times to get around the same block.

SO if the older gtx980 needed 1000mhz/2500 shaders to get around the block then a gpu like the 1070 would need the same 1000MHz/2500 shaders to get around the same block.
that would be = IPC

Now if the older gtx980 needed only 800mhz/2500 shaders to do the same work as the gtx1070 with 1200mhz/2600 shader, the older gtx980 has better IPC.

If just a more efficient gpu clock cycle.
I tried.

 

[mkmitch]

Anyone who thought that GP104 was worth buying at the prices they are asking is completely indoctrinated anyway. $700 (or $600 eventually) for a midrange sku is just crazy. It's like battered spouse syndrome. People keep getting abused but they keep going back for more.

You wait and see, if this is true and the 1070 O/C will be 10%-15% faster than the 480 O/C and people will still spend an extra 50% for it and somehow justify it. In DX12 games it might not be any faster at all.

No one needs to justify to anyone what they decide to spend. If money is not an issue buy the faster card, is that hard to comprehend? I am waiting to see how good the AMD card is and will buy whatever card is the best. I worked hard all my life to retire early buy what I want.

Citing the battered syndrome is one of the silliest things I have read on these forums. BTW I have AMD gpu in one machine and Nvidia in the other and enjoyed both cards, but they won't handle a new monitor purchase.

 

[tential]

Because VR headsets are not going to go down in price.




I can't believe you agree with this dribble. If it does the job @ $200 then what is the motivation to spend more?



The big hold up for acceptance will be the high cost of the headsets. Not the low cost of the GPU.

They will go down in price but by the time they're affordable to the mainstream market vr will have advanced significantly and there will be far better hardware for the task.

Buying a "vr capable gpu" to hopefully play vr 2-3 years down the line to me and most gamers is not the route to go.

Most gamers won't even leave 1080p screens and you want mainstream gamers to purchase what is essentially priced as a high end monitor?

I don't buy into amd marketing tactics. Most people don't because amd marketing sucks and this is another example why

 

[USER8000]

RADEON RX 480 8G GDDR5 PCI-E HDMI 3XDP UEFI

£210.99 ex VAT
£253.18 inc VAT

www.pcworldbusiness.co.uk/catalogue/item/P240047P

PCWorld are expensive - the Asus GTX970 cards they sell are around £290 to £300 which is around £30 to £50 more than normal retailers. The GTX960 sells for around £175 to £215 on there too.

 

[coercitiv]

No one needs to justify to anyone what they decide to spend. If money is not an issue buy the faster card, is that hard to comprehend? I am waiting to see how good the AMD card is and will buy whatever card is the best. I worked hard all my life to retire early buy what I want.

Nobody is telling you how and when to spend your money, nor would anyone have that right, but this is a place where people discuss value of tech, exchange opinions, hence we justify choice.

If all everybody wanted was "the best", there would only be 1 thread per product cycle in this forum, and that thread would be locked.

 

[IntelUser2000]

RADEON RX 480 8G GDDR5 PCI-E HDMI 3XDP UEFI

£210.99 ex VAT
£253.18 inc VAT

www.pcworldbusiness.co.uk/catalogue/item/P240047P

AMD was saying $199 US for RX480, why do you guys believe these prices?

Pre-release prices are also slightly higher than MSRP. At least the reference boards aren't going to cost more than $199 if supply situation is fine.

 

[Glo.]

Couple thoughts. Never believe any rumors about upcoming hardware from any vendor. Secondly.

The 3 SKUs from Polaris architecture on desktop mean that there is room for highest possible end in RX 4XX line of GPUs, and there might be slight chance for Vega 10 at the end of the year as RX 490, but that is just wishful thinking.

 

[DDH]

So...... What is the 300 dollar card that will be on the shelf on the 29th that LS mentioned at computex?


I am quite happy I didnt forgo any sleep to watch this event this time(In Aus). By all accounts it wasnt what most people(Myself included) had hoped for.

And frankly I find the announcement of the names of the card, but no additional details frustrating. 2 Weeks until their release, Why not at least tell us the specs of the units

 

[IntelUser2000]

I wish they release it at $260 cdn, rather than $280-300 they seem to do. Heck, the conversion is 1.3, not 1.4 or 1.5. Either American guys selling to Canada or Canadian guys selling to Canadians are making a killing doing this.

Craigslist R9 290s are going for $200 or less. R9 390 will likely drop to $250 range as we get close to launch. Zero advancements in perf/$ in 3-4 years. They are using FinFET advantages all to cut power.

Ahh, the loveliness of the end of Moore's Law.