Fall 2017 (Scorpio) launch makes me think it might use Vega's updated GCN. If Radeon RX 480 is closer to 5 TFLOPS (AMD said 'more than 5 TFLOPs') then I think going with a larger Vega based custom GPU at sane clocks makes more sense to hit their 6 TFLOPS target.
Nvidia is attempting to drive their prices up another $50 at each price point. ON TOP of that, they charged an extra $100 to get the card early.
That's an amazing business move at the high end.
What's amazing is that people bought it.
91c.. wow.https://linustechtips.com/main/topi...0-to-fury-performance/?page=5#comment-7896533
Poster of leaked results ie the 3515 fs ultra score at 1266 mhz (stock) and the 1080 mhz (underclocked) score responding to questions translated to English.
what that's 360$ is it not?
SO your saying if you live in Europe you don't pay VAT? and you pay VAT if you buy from Europe and live in the U.S.?
I no nothing educate me. thanks.
or are you saying
that the price is 300$ + 60$ VAT tax in Europe?= 360$U.S.
is that why a gtx1070 is like 500$ over there?
In NZ there are no 1070's showing in stock. The only one listed is $781.84 NZD before the 15% GST ($900 NZD inclusive). That's $550 USD before tax. It's hard to compare pricing outside the USA.
Not so amazing really.
What you have known about the pricing structure of graphics cards all happened over the years when NVIDIA had 30-60% market share, and real competition from at least one other company, sometimes more.
This isn't true anymore.
NVIDIA is just doing what companies who have a great advantage in the market and no competition coming for months do- sell for whatever they want.
They could have sold 1080s for $800 and sold them all.
AMD would be doing the same if roles were reversed.
I remember paying $1000 for my FX CPUs (first gen).
Even in a vacuum the price of the GP104 is too high. Anyone wants to buy it, let them. I just think they're crazy.
I thought the 6 TFLOPs number was for the entire system, so it includes the CPU as well, which doesn't account for much but probably adds about .15 TFLOPs.
Polaris has just been listed at >5 TFLOPs, so they wouldn't need that much extra hardware on top of what you'd get with a 480 and you can always increase the clock speed as well, which by the time this thing needs to come out shouldn't be a problem as the process matures.
Yeah, as I was starting to suspect, if there was a $300 model we probably would have heard something by now. I think Lisa was being speaking in general about the price range they would cover, not that they would specifically have a $300 part. That doesn't mean we won't see aftermarket versions of the card that approach that amount, but I don't think we're going to see a larger, faster version of Polaris 10 that we haven't seen thus far.
When has AMD ever used he pricing of some future AIB card before? That's nVidia when they were trying to spin the FE tax. Since AMD has said $300 price point we should assume that they are going to be releasing a $300 Polaris (They did say $100 to $300 Polaris, didn't they?) card. Maybe not right away, but it's in the works.
The f***?67C0, 67C1, 67C2, 67C4, 67C7, 67DF, 67C8, 67C9, 67CA, 67CC, 67CF
I don't think this will be regular Polaris 10 XT. We are talking more than a year from now, and Vega is based on another iteration of GCN. Sony is rumoured to use a low clocked version of Polaris 10 XT at 911 MHZ for PS4 Neo, and I think MS will try to beat them on all paper specs. I wouldn't be surprised if they could pack 40 Vega-like CUs in Polaris 10 die size a year from now, probably at lower clocks and even more efficient than a near 1.3 GHZ P10 would be.
Agreed. Apple notably takes the best chips of the new tech for them. No matter if is nVIDIA or AMD.Well I posted many months ago, this fabled full Polaris 10... is likely taken by Apple in a repeat of the Tonga situation.
Note the 285 came out, cut Tonga. Later refreshed into the 380, still cut Tonga. Then much later, the 380X reared it's head, finally full Tonga, once Apple's volume demands was met.
We know there's 3 Polaris 10 variants, C4, C7 and C10. This came from the same shipping manifest leak and it was spot on accurate for C4 and C7, including the SP counts so far.
If AMD is not releasing C10, it means the chips are going elsewhere. I can't think of another OEM that demands both the best SKU/binning as well as having high volume to take them all, besides Apple.
For those not understanding, the reason Apple wants the full chips is going more shaders at lower clocks achieves the best perf/w.
So indeed, this higher tier Polaris exist and may well be $299, but it will come later.
Agreed. Apple notably takes the best chips of the new tech for them. No matter if is nVIDIA or AMD.
Nobody is telling you how and when to spend your money, nor would anyone have that right, but this is a place where people discuss value of tech, exchange opinions, hence we justify choice.
If all everybody wanted was "the best", there would only be 1 thread per product cycle in this forum, and that thread would be locked.