Huh? That tech journo thinks the $199 480 4GB is actually not a launch SKU? That would be a bad move by AMD imo, squander a lot of opportunity created by Nvidia's launch reference premium pricing.
Your post wasn't clear, to me, that's why I assumed what I did. As for the full P10 going to Apple, there's every chance of that being the case, we'll find out eventually via TPU db or something from gfxbench Metal scores.Not sure why you'd think that.
I was, of course, referring to the Tonga deal, and the references to an RX-480 with more CUs going to Apple.
MSI Lightning 390x was $750. $200 more than the MSRP $550 of the reference 390x.Guys, if there is in fact a 30% factory oc part, it would behoove asus to add g5x. You're actually going to hit memory bandwidth limitations at 30%+ above boost and that would absolutely make it faster than gtx 1070.
I have a hard time seeing people pay 70 extra for just a part that's *maybe* higher binned and for some extra fans and power connectors.
First you say this rumored binned part would be competing with 1070, then you have a hard time seeing how people would pay $300 for a GDDR5 card of comparable performance with 1070. Tell us more.I have a hard time seeing people pay 70 extra for just a part that's *maybe* higher binned and for some extra fans and power connectors.
...The RX 470 drops down in price though performance is meant to stay competitive but not VR competitive. My guess is price will hit around $150.
that means say kiss goodbuy to 390x lvl performance for 480x, it will be around 390 lvl, otherwise 470 would be vr capable too since i believe it has 32cu.
First you say this rumored binned part would be competing with 1070, then you have a hard time seeing how people would pay $300 for a GDDR5 card of comparable performance with 1070. Tell us more.
Huh? That tech journo thinks the $199 480 4GB is actually not a launch SKU? That would be a bad move by AMD imo, squander a lot of opportunity created by Nvidia's launch reference premium pricing.
Your post wasn't clear, to me, that's why I assumed what I did. As for the full P10 going to Apple, there's every chance of that being the case, we'll find out eventually via TPU db or something from gfxbench Metal scores.
The problem with Apple (deal) is very likely that even the top bin Polaris will not be sold at a premium, to Apple, & they'll absorb every unit that comes out of GF for the foreseeable future. So if there is a 40CU GDDR5x P10 out there, it'll likely release 2~4 quarters from now, if at all.
The larger Polaris 10 is a 36 CU (2304 SP) chip, meaning that the forthcoming Radeon RX 480 video card is using a fully enabled chip.
Point being that if the part can actually be 30% factory oc, why wouldn't you just buy any version with a bit more juice (8 pin) and oc it 20%-30% yourself and save the money? If jeebee on semiaccurate is saying he's hearing about 30% factory oc, I believe it.
In my mind the killer move is for an aib to add g5x if it indeed can oc as well as the rumors suggest, and while I personally do not know the price difference between 8gb g5x and g5, I would think it could be covered in that additional 70 USD.
Chances are any 6+6 or 8 pin models will already be OC'ed.
Unless i'm mistaken, i think that '+' means plus from the baseline of the GT730 price:
http://i.imgur.com/RamNi51.jpg
Which is around ~70 euro on amazon.de. That would make:
460 = 70 + 79 = 149 (167$)
470 = 70 + 149 = 219 (245)
480 = 70 + 209 = 279 (313$)
480(8gb) = 70 + 249 = 319(358$)
So if this is true, on the same amazon.de, for that price you can buy:
460 ~= GTX950
470 ~= R9 380X
480 ~= GTX970
480(8gb) ~= R9 390
Would be pretty sad if these prices are close to what we will get in Euorope.
If those prices are the incremental cost to get a system builder to add them into a machine, they're all but useless. The same math gives a price of almost US$400 for a GTX 970 and over US$900 for a 1080.
MSI Lightning 390x was $750. $200 more than the MSRP $550 of the reference 390x.
Fairly sure that got confirmed. Producing GPUs at mass numbers on these small nodes is not a trivial exercise for anyone.
The 199 part is probably as much of a (perfectly reasonable!) marketing thing than anything else. You'd need to be very tight on budget to not pay for a decent AIB cooler and 8 GB Vram.
And yes to the directly above - no great reason to spend money at 1080p. Think the same people buying pricey video cards will also be getting higher resolution monitors mind
The bad news keeps rolling in.
1. RX 480 is confirmed full die.
2. Performance estimated to be R9 390 / 290x, making the GTX 1070 nearly 50% faster at 1440p.
3. The almighty perf/$ is going to be pretty close between the GTX 1070 and RX 480 when cards hit the shelves and are likely $20+ above MSRP.
4. Perf/mm2 is abysmal compared to GP104, which means Vega coming just 6 months later needs massive improvements to close the performance gaps with bigger dies and higher TDP's.
5. In a last ditch effort to delay further disappointment, people are now hanging their hopes on P10 overclocking and believing every forum warrior who is reporting massive overclocking and phenomenal scaling.
This has been an almost text book AMD launch up to this point. Massive hope and hype, followed by confusion, followed by poor explanations, followed by disappointment, followed by acceptance, followed by massive hope and hype for the next big release.
Yes, I know that. My point is that people are hearing of 30% factory oc. A 30% factory oc is going to start being bottlenecked by g5. What odds you get g5x parts?
I'm not saying it's likely, just wondering if there's strong logic against it (eg g5x costs more than 70 USD above g5)
The bad news keeps rolling in.
1. RX 480 is confirmed full die.
2. Performance estimated to be R9 390 / 290x, making the GTX 1070 nearly 50% faster at 1440p.
3. The almighty perf/$ is going to be pretty close between the GTX 1070 and RX 480 when cards hit the shelves and are likely $20+ above MSRP.
4. Perf/mm2 is abysmal compared to GP104, which means Vega coming just 6 months later needs massive improvements to close the performance gaps with bigger dies and higher TDP's.
5. In a last ditch effort to delay further disappointment, people are now hanging their hopes on P10 overclocking and believing every forum warrior who is reporting massive overclocking and phenomenal scaling.
This has been an almost text book AMD launch up to this point. Massive hope and hype, followed by confusion, followed by poor explanations, followed by disappointment, followed by acceptance, followed by massive hope and hype for the next big release.
The bad news keeps rolling in.
1. RX 480 is confirmed full die.
2. Performance estimated to be R9 390 / 290x, making the GTX 1070 nearly 50% faster at 1440p.
3. The almighty perf/$ is going to be pretty close between the GTX 1070 and RX 480 when cards hit the shelves and are likely $20+ above MSRP.
4. Perf/mm2 is abysmal compared to GP104, which means Vega coming just 6 months later needs massive improvements to close the performance gaps with bigger dies and higher TDP's.
5. In a last ditch effort to delay further disappointment, people are now hanging their hopes on P10 overclocking and believing every forum warrior who is reporting massive overclocking and phenomenal scaling.
This has been an almost text book AMD launch up to this point. Massive hope and hype, followed by confusion, followed by poor explanations, followed by disappointment, followed by acceptance, followed by massive hope and hype for the next big release.
kraatus77 said:The RX 470 drops down in price though performance is meant to stay competitive but not VR competitive. My guess is price will hit around $150.
The bad news keeps rolling in.
1. RX 480 is confirmed full die.
2. Performance estimated to be R9 390 / 290x, making the GTX 1070 nearly 50% faster at 1440p.
3. The almighty perf/$ is going to be pretty close between the GTX 1070 and RX 480 when cards hit the shelves and are likely $20+ above MSRP.
4. Perf/mm2 is abysmal compared to GP104, which means Vega coming just 6 months later needs massive improvements to close the performance gaps with bigger dies and higher TDP's.
5. In a last ditch effort to delay further disappointment, people are now hanging their hopes on P10 overclocking and believing every forum warrior who is reporting massive overclocking and phenomenal scaling.
This has been an almost text book AMD launch up to this point. Massive hope and hype, followed by confusion, followed by poor explanations, followed by disappointment, followed by acceptance, followed by massive hope and hype for the next big release.
Huh? That tech journo thinks the $199 480 4GB is actually not a launch SKU? That would be a bad move by AMD imo, squander a lot of opportunity created by Nvidia's launch reference premium pricing.
2. Performance estimated to be R9 390 / 290x, making the GTX 1070 nearly 50% faster at 1440p.