I don't think anyone else had come this close to being as anal retentive as AMD is about hiding their specs of GPUs.
I don't think anyone else had come this close to being as anal retentive as AMD is about hiding their specs of GPUs.As a reminder, AMD use to do this to AIBs often, giving them samples with different bioses so if there's leaks, it's wrong info (not final SP count or clocks!) on purpose and they know who is reliable. They give them the final bios just shorty before products are finalized.
Interesting that they do this to reviewers as now as well for Polaris... really secretive launch. Since everyone was shocked about the pricing, I think AMD's goal was to catch NV with their pants down basically.
I think NV was on to this, hence the dual pricing, MSRP/Ref. So if Polaris is good, and NV needs to price drop, they don't have to, simply have cards sell for MSRP and claim "our MSRP has not changed".
Thinking about it, it's entirely plausible all the leaked CU count so far for C4, C7 and C10 could be ALL WRONG.
Btw, with all the eyes of tech journalists on him, Raja pulls out victory cigar.
I don't think anyone else had come this close to being as anal retentive as AMD is about hiding their specs of GPUs.
oh common, we know they have plenty to say.. but it's a $200 product why give the competition a head start until it's ready for launch?Either they've got something to hide or nothing to say. Either way it's rather amusing.
oh common, we know they have plenty to say.. but it's a $200 product why give the competition a head start until it's ready for launch?
The $200 product is enough of a known quantity that it doesn't matter. It's going to be a good value regardless of whether it's ~5% over or under a 390X for anyone who wants to upgrade.
The real question is what the performance is going to be like for the $300 Polaris 10. I'm still pretty skeptical of claims above a 40 CU part, as that's drifting towards what people want to be true instead of what likely is.
If they can deliver an 8 GB 40 CU part at 1.4 GHz, that's enough of a boost over a supposed $230 8 GB 480 to be worth the added cost. Anything beyond that it extra gravy as far as I'm concerned, but I think people are too busy latching on to the hype train on their magical journey to fantasy land.
Hype and dreams don't boost frame rates.
Right, with 40CU and 1.4ghz, extra cores + clocks, we're talking above Fury X performance for $299 with 8GB vram. That's already an amazing deal.
Right, with 40CU and 1.4ghz, extra cores + clocks, we're talking above Fury X performance for $299 with 8GB vram. That's already an amazing deal.
It's simply too much to expect 44 CU or heck, 48 CU LOL. That's 1080 performance. Not possible for such a small chip. That's total fantasy levels of performance for $299.
Why is there an assumption that there will be a $300 Polaris 10? I feel like if that was the case we would have heard something up to this point. Leak after leak but only the $199/229 cards? I have a feeling that AMD won't be targeting those higher price points until Vega, but I will be pleasantly surprised if I'm wrong.
Yeah, that's why I'm skeptical of these rumors - 48 CUs for Polaris 10 sounds too good to be true. We've been burned on similar claims in the past, like the baseless rumors that Bristol Ridge would have 16 CUs instead of the same 8 that Carrizo did. Better to keep expectations reasonable and not be disappointed when the release comes.
IMO, if the 48 CU rumor does turn out to be true, then Polaris 10 is not a 232mm^2 chip, but considerably bigger. But I agree, it would be really aggressive on price for AMD to release such a product at just $299. 3072 SPs at 1266 MHz would come out to over 7.7 TFlops. Assuming P10 fixes most of the existing GCN bottlenecks, that would be roughly 94% of the performance of GTX 1080. AMD could easily ask $399 for a product like that, and have no shortage of takers. It would still be a bargain compared to the 1080.
I felt the same as you. I do not think there will be 40 CU Polaris 10 release for PC market.Why is there an assumption that there will be a $300 Polaris 10? I feel like if that was the case we would have heard something up to this point. Leak after leak but only the $199/229 cards? I have a feeling that AMD won't be targeting those higher price points until Vega, but I will be pleasantly surprised if I'm wrong.
I felt the same as you. I do not think there will be 40 CU Polaris 10 release for PC market.
AMD stated that they are targeting $100-$300 doesn't mean they need to release a card at exactly $300.
This website is claiming that they're getting two RX 480's without being bound by an NDA, and they're going to release benchmarks between the 20th and the 24th. They also claim that there is major stock in stores, and that if you know the right people, you'll be able to get one as early as next week.
As usual, mountains of salt, rumor until proven otherwise.
Why between 20th & 24th?https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/4nmaa7/a_czech_website_is_claiming_to_be_releasing/
This website is claiming that they're getting two RX 480's without being bound by an NDA, and they're going to release benchmarks between the 20th and the 24th. They also claim that there is major stock in stores, and that if you know the right people, you'll be able to get one as early as next week.
As usual, mountains of salt, rumor until proven otherwise.
Hopefully there is major stock.
AMD announced there will be Polaris 10 cards from $199-300.
It's not an assumption so much as an expectation now that AMD has said it.
That doesn't necessarily mean a different die configuration at $300 though. It could just mean MSI and other partnerds might release 36CU overclocked lighnings for that price.
That doesn't necessarily mean a different die configuration at $300 though. It could just mean MSI and other partnerds might release 36CU overclocked lighnings for that price.
Why between 20th & 24th?
That is about a week earlier than what was shown on some NDA paperwork.
Guess it could be that AMD has moved up the date, that could explain a few things.
I dont know if a 100 dollar tag justifies OC and a better cooler. She specifically said RX GPUs will cover 100 to 300. I think she was talking about MSRP here.
Maybe to prepare for a hard launch on the 29th, so they have stock ready to ship.
As you wish:
Geforce GTX 980 = ~1225 MHz (between 1200 and 1250 MHz) x 2 x 2048 = 5.02 TFLOPS
Geforce GTX 1070 = Starts slightly above 1800 MHz, averaging at ~1775 MHz x 2 x 1920 = 6.82 TFLOPS
6.82/5.02 = 35.8 % more TFLOPS for 39% / 57% more performance (DX11 / DX12 @ 1440P).
They say this 200 card puts VR into the mainstream.
But I thought the barrier to entry was the high price for the headsets. How does the 480 change the game so to speak with VR?