AMD Polaris Thread: Radeon RX 480, RX 470 & RX 460 launching June 29th

[Armsdealer]

Polaris Tech Day Screenshot
http://videocardz.com/61293/amd-radeon-rx-480-rumors-part-3

Polaris Tech Day Bench
63.1
68.3
67.8
55.1

My unlocked OC'd Fury Air same settings
47.6
54.5
51.9
39.3

Granted I don't have the same CPU, but Polaris is FAST.

What clocks is your card running?

 

[StrangerGuy]

Stop posting all this wrong info.

Here's the absolute truth from HE WHO KNOWS ALL.


Keeping in mind that HardOCP have not been briefed or sampled on the new RX 480 by AMD as I type this, we have gotten solid information as to supplies on launch day...whenever that is. Expect around 8,000 cards to be available in North America.

http://hardocp.com/news/2016/06/21/amd_radeon_rx_480_supplies_at_launch

Needs page hits so badly? Comments are hilarious. Remind me of a cult following.

Lol @ anybody thinks 8000 is a great quantity when Apple moves that amount of iPhones in less than 20 mins averaged in one quarter, let alone launch day. Even 100K won't last on the first day if the demand was only 1/10 of iPhones at launch.

 

[boozzer]

maddie, if you don't put a /s tag, alot of posters would take your post seriously, deliberate or not

 

[nkdesistyle]

and now this. Assault on AMD has been launched lol one week before launch. Picking the worst OC figure and ignoring every other report. I am losing faith slowly. Gave them benefit of the doubt on the first article but now it seems they are just slowly going for it. They ignored all the reports of 1400 being achieved easily and put the 1340 rumor lol.

https://hardforum.com/threads/amd-radeon-rx-480-thermal-imaging-and-overclocking-numbers.1902979/

 

[DarkKnightDude]

and now this. Assault on AMD has been launched lol one week before launch. Picking the worst OC figure and ignoring every other report. I am losing faith slowly. Gave them benefit of the doubt on the first article but now it seems they are just slowly going for it. They ignored all the reports of 1400 being achieved easily and put the 1340 rumor lol.

https://hardforum.com/threads/amd-radeon-rx-480-thermal-imaging-and-overclocking-numbers.1902979/

Or just don't believe any report you read till you read the reviews. Take every leak with a grain of salt.

 

[nkdesistyle]

Or just don't believe any report you read till you read the reviews. Take every leak with a grain of salt.

doing just that lol.

 

[Bacon1]

and now this. Assault on AMD has been launched lol one week before launch. Picking the worst OC figure and ignoring every other report. I am losing faith slowly. Gave them benefit of the doubt on the first article but now it seems they are just slowly going for it. They ignored all the reports of 1400 being achieved easily and put the 1340 rumor lol.

https://hardforum.com/threads/amd-radeon-rx-480-thermal-imaging-and-overclocking-numbers.1902979/

Ironically they left off the 1070 thermals which were even higher than the 480...

http://wccftech.com/radeon-rx-480-thermal-tests-leak/

 

[Noctifer616]

http://www.pcgameshardware.de/AMD-P...pecials/Radeon-RX-480-PCGH-Testlabor-1199319/

"The performance is at the level of a R9 390X or GTX 980 are, where priced 229 US (8GB) dollars are due. "

Please don't use google translate. It doesn't say "is at the level of a R9 390X" it says "should be at the level of a R9 390X".

 

[3DVagabond]

Yes, word is AIBs will charge $10-15 extra for a backplate and a small OC. Like 1266 -> 1288 or XFX may have gone with 1328mhz.

I dislike backplates, it adds nothing to function and prevents radiating heat from the back of the PCB efficiently.

Also for CF, that small extra spacing allows the top card to breathe better. But choices are good for consumers!

Depends on whether or not the backplate is properly thermal coupled to the PCB or not. Putting some thermal tape directly behind the VRM allows the backplate to sink heat away, not insulate it.

crap amd's new cards in trouble from what those guys are saying
nv is going to unleash kepler on them

Nvidia overflowing Kepler stock is also AMD's headaches

The problem for AMD is that Nvidia has overflowing stocks of the GeForce GTX 970 and GeForce GTX 980 graphics card that you want to get rid of before the introduction of the new Pascal card in the middle class. Depending on how well the RX 480 stands up against the GTX 970 and GTX 980, Nvidia can temporarily versus AMD's Polaris-launch with further price cuts on their outgoing short while completing their own Mid-GPU GP106.

Why buy an architecture that is terrible at DX12? nVidia talks up gameday drivers, but what are they going to be able to do about lack of hardware support for the API?

That's where AMD's reviewer guide needs to suggest settings to turn down that don't affect graphics fidelity. AMD should make some high res YT comparison videos showing which features are turned lower and maxed out and link them in reviewer's guide. Of course, AMD should check other cards don't benefit more before suggesting this.

That could backfire on them. What they need to do is optimize drivers for settings they know the reviewers are going to use. At least the larger sites where they've got plenty of prior material to go by.

As far as [H] goes; They won't go as far as fudging benches to give a false review. What typically happens is their editorial doesn't really match the results. The other thing they like to do is not release the review of the product until it's off sale causing it to have a worse perf/$. Sale prices often revolve around @ Newegg. They will release a review of a card it seems when it's at the highest price it's been in weeks. When they very likely received it at a time to coincide with a promotion. lol Then there's their bench suite. No games that AMD are known to have a performance advantage in.

 

[sirmo]

We often see folks say AMD is terrible at marketing and hype... but seriously, this is the most hyped launch in a long time. The interest on tech forums and social platforms (neogaf, reddit etc) is intense. All eyes are on Polaris.

It looks to me the approach of keeping silent but seeding conflicting leaks over a long period of time generate this attention train that keeps on building.

Polaris RX 480 was recently a trending search item on search engines!

In a few more days, we'll all find out if it delivers, under or over.

Yup. This is the most viewed thread on this forum by a long shot. AMD stole the show with the rx480 in terms of hype and speculation.

 

[antihelten]

Yup. This is the most viewed thread on this forum by a long shot. AMD stole the show with the rx480 in terms of hype and speculation.

Well the Pascal thread was up to 142 pages before the NDA ended, so there's still some way to go for this thread to match that, but then again there's still a week more until the NDA ends, so it might get there (unless the NDA ends on the 24th like wccftech claims).

 

[krumme]

Yup. This is the most viewed thread on this forum by a long shot. AMD stole the show with the rx480 in terms of hype and speculation.

85% of the market is below 300usd. It is interesting for a lot of people.

 

[redzo]

crap amd's new cards in trouble from what those guys are saying
nv is going to unleash kepler on them

Nvidia overflowing Kepler stock is also AMD's headaches

The problem for AMD is that Nvidia has overflowing stocks of the GeForce GTX 970 and GeForce GTX 980 graphics card that you want to get rid of before the introduction of the new Pascal card in the middle class. Depending on how well the RX 480 stands up against the GTX 970 and GTX 980, Nvidia can temporarily versus AMD's Polaris-launch with further price cuts on their outgoing short while completing their own Mid-GPU GP106.

Based on current leaks, the rx 480 should be placed at least at the same r9 390 non-x performance level. The question is: Who's going to purchase a 4GB gtx 980 old tech over a 8GB Rx 480 if they are priced the same and perform similarly? Who's gonna recommend a gtx980 over a 480? The gtx 970 is not even worth mentioning unless it gets dirt cheap compared to the rx 480.

 

[sirmo]

Well the Pascal thread was up to 142 pages before the NDA ended, so there's still some way to go for this thread to match that, but then again there's still a week more until the NDA ends, so it might get there (unless the NDA ends on the 24th like wccftech claims).

Which is entirely expected on an enthusiast forum, due to the controversy surrounding shady pricing.. Nvidia's OC hype 2100Mhz demo @67C on stock cooling.

But when it comes to lurkers and how many people have viewed this topic it's not even close.

Sorted by views:

even sorted by # of replies this wins overwhelmingly"

 

[antihelten]

Based on current leaks, the rx 480 should be placed at least at the same r9 390 non-x performance level. The question is: Who's going to purchase a 4GB gtx 980 old tech over a 8GB Rx 480 if they are priced the same and perform similarly? Who's gonna recommend a gtx980 over a 480? The gtx 970 is not even worth mentioning unless it gets dirt cheap compared to the rx 480.

The Nvidia brand definitely has significant effect on people's purchasing patterns when it comes to GPUs, so I wouldn't be surprised if at least some non-insignificant amount of people went for the 980 instead. Irrational perhaps, but then again most purchasing patterns for pretty much any good has some level of irrationality to them.

But when it comes to lurkers and how many people have viewed this topic it's not even close.

Sorted by views:


even sorted by # of replies this wins overwhelmingly"

I don't know. Currently the Pascal thread is sitting at 367,634 views or about 66% more than this thread. It isn't possible to see how many views the Pascal thread had before the NDA ended, but if we simply adjust for the number of pages at the time compared to now (142 vs. 164), then we would end up with ~318,000 views or about 44% more than this thread.

Looking at just replies, then the Pascal thread obviously wins, seeing as it had 3,529 replies before the NDA ended, or about 25% more than this thread, and a week before the NDA ended (i.e. same point in time as this thread is at now) it was sitting at 3,321 replies which is 18% more.

So as far as I can tell, the Pascal thread was more popular by pretty much any measurement you might go with.

 

[Silverforce11]

A whole bunch of RX 480 leaks, with some game benches too:

http://imgur.com/a/DSwDx

A little faster than 390X in 3dMark, but I don't know the game settings tested to compare.

 

[monstercameron]

http://bbs.ngacn.cc/read.php?tid=9491647

as expected full slide deck leak, chinese.

 

[dacostafilipe]

A whole bunch of RX 480 leaks, with some game benches too:

http://imgur.com/a/DSwDx

A little faster than 390X in 3dMark, but I don't know the game settings tested to compare.

Why would someone use the Doom 3 box design (!) for "official" benches?

Seems like a fake ...

 

[renderstate]

From all the material leaked so far there is no mention of any new GCN4 feature like the primitives discard accelerator, improved color compression, etc. if find this rather strange and I wonder if AMD is completely de-emphasizing the technical aspect. I really hope this is not the case.

 

[antihelten]

From all the material leaked so far there is no mention of any new GCN4 feature like the primitives discard accelerator, improved color compression, etc. if find this rather strange and I wonder if AMD is completely de-emphasizing the technical aspect. I really hope this is not the case.

I would say that this is pretty much par for the course. New hardware features like this rarely gets explored in leaks after all, I mean how many leaks did we have on Pascal that explored any of it's new features (LMS, single pass stereo etc) before they were announced by Nvidia.

Leaks almost always focus exclusively on the basic aspects of a new product, i.e performance, power usage, overclockability and stuff like that.

Why would someone use the Doom 3 box design (!) for "official" benches?

Seems like a fake ...

It's also kind of weird how the slides are set up. Normally AMD wouldn't dedicate an entire slide to the performance of a single game (hitman), but would instead present a bar graph of multiple games, like this

 

[dacostafilipe]

Yeah, I would even say that most people that understand this stuff AND have a card certainly work/write for a site/paper and are under NDA.

Edit: But if your are looking for a leak that talks about it, here you are :

I've played around with this little beast and I have to say this is the biggest improvement in years. Polaris is extremely powerful in micropoligons. I didn't even imagine that this kind of performance is possible on a quad raster design. In an extreme test case with 8xMSAA and 64 polys/pixel, the Polaris 10 is the fastest GPU in the market by far.
The second interesting thing is the pipeline stall handling. I wrote a program to test it, and remarkable how it works. I hate dealing with pipeline stalls, because it is hard, but on Polaris the stalls are just reduced by far. Even if I run a badly optimized program, the hardware just "try to solve the problem", and it works great. This behavior reminds me the Larrabee... and now we have it, not from Intel, but a hardware is here to solve a lot of problems!

https://semiaccurate.com/forums/showpost.php?p=266518&postcount=2022

Not saying its legit!

 

[StrangerGuy]

A whole bunch of RX 480 leaks, with some game benches too:

http://imgur.com/a/DSwDx

A little faster than 390X in 3dMark, but I don't know the game settings tested to compare.

全高特效 = maximum settings

 

[selni]

From all the material leaked so far there is no mention of any new GCN4 feature like the primitives discard accelerator, improved color compression, etc. if find this rather strange and I wonder if AMD is completely de-emphasizing the technical aspect. I really hope this is not the case.

I'm sure they'll be talked about at some point but really a lot more people will care about what it means for performance etc than the technical detail as to how it was achieved.

A lot of the discussion around colour compression etc tends to be "it's now 17% better" rather than anything more interesting or indepth.

 

[trane]

A whole bunch of RX 480 leaks, with some game benches too:

http://imgur.com/a/DSwDx

A little faster than 390X in 3dMark, but I don't know the game settings tested to compare.

Ah, so now we know where Videocardz got their numbers from!

 

[maddie]

maddie, if you don't put a /s tag, alot of posters would take your post seriously, deliberate or not

Noted. So outrageous a statement should not need tags, but added anyhow.