AMD Polaris Thread: Radeon RX 480, RX 470 & RX 460 launching June 29th

[Riek]

Even [H] gave it a positive review! I don't understand this thread...

thats because with [H] the 480 consumes 60W less than their 970 sample, where in TPU it consumes 16W more than a 980..

 

[Snafuh]

Regression is simple. 5.8 TFlops, performing around a 390 that has 5.2 TFlops.

It looks different with the same bandwith. Same TFlops, same bandwith, the 390X with twice the ROPs. The 480 is 6% faster. Regression isn't that simple.
https://www.computerbase.de/2016-06...iagramm-performancerating-polaris-architektur


Computerbase tested undervolting, too. Power consumption goes down by 30 watts. It might be a very good chip, though.
https://www.computerbase.de/2016-06/radeon-rx-480-test/12/

 

[Jaydip]

I believe AMD should just stick to designing APUs for now, 1070 is way faster and consumes less power.Extremely disappointing debut for polaris, it's only saving grace is the price.

PS:

Kyle was right after all

 

[Mercennarius]

So for $398(USD) you can get two 480s and get 98% the performance of a 1080? Sounds like a win.

 

[antihelten]

odd result compared to [H] which is not exactly AMD friendly

Toms get's basically the same power numbers as TPU, so it would seem that [H] is the outlier here.

So for $398(USD) you can get two 480s and get 98% the performance of a 1080? Sounds like a win.

$480 technically, since TPU tested the 8GB versions.

 

[agfkfhahddhdn]

Perf/$ is good, the card will sell well. But their claims were different, the card should have been more efficient as well.

Absolutely, and that's why I said no one itt should be buying one today. We are not the market these reference cards are aimed at. They will sell like hotcakes to people who don't care about power efficiency. I mean, I'm sitting here defending the card while simultaneously camping Newegg for sub-$450 1070s. I had my heart set on buying a card today and it won't be a reference 480, so in that regard it's a little disappointing to me. But to sit here and call the card a failure, to spam the thread with "OH WOW HYPE AND LIES," despite the fact that it met and exceeding it's performance targets and is a great value, is just insanity.

 

[gdansk]

This thread should be a lesson to AMD. Don't lead with your midrange card.

Launching Vega, even if a power hog, would garner a more positive reception if it temporarily dethroned the 1080.

 

[monstercameron]

I believe AMD should just stick to designing APUs for now, 1070 is way faster and consumes less power.Extremely disappointing debut for polaris, it's only saving grace is the price.

PS:

Kyle was right after all

Same douche that said it could only clock @850mhz...right sthu man.


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[antihelten]

This thread should be a lesson to AMD. Don't lead with your midrange card.

Launching Vega, even if a power hog, would garner a more positive reception if it temporarily dethroned the 1080.

I don't really think AMD cares about the sentiment of a random forum thread. If the sales of 480 is below expectations, then we can start talking about AMD learning a lesson.

 

[railven]

So for $398(USD) you can get two 480s and get 98% the performance of a 1080? Sounds like a win.

Not if you want 8GBs, and frankly for $460 (assuming 2x$230) I'd rather get a GTX 1070, 90% of the performance with with or without scaling issues, and less power consumption/heat and headaches.

Makes me wonder what that slide was all about in regards to efficiency. Because with this power consumption numbers - something is even fishier.

 

[DarkKnightDude]

Why does [H}'s one consumes less then a 970 while other cards are at 160 Watts? WTF

Reference cards are a mixed bag? Shocker. Buy AIB everyone.

 

[Mercennarius]

Yup...the more I go through all the benchmarks the more it's clear the real selling point on this card is cross fire. I mean...only needing two 6 pin power plugs and $398 to crossfire and basically achieve 1080 performance is incredible.

 

[ShintaiDK]

I wonder if people will learn _this time_ not to trust the hype and viral PR marketing. 2.8x perf/watt, ye right...

 

[Michael]

Noise seems high and power consumption seems to be more than promised. Reference card with blower and heats sink is not getting positive reviews so far.

Michael

 

[Mopetar]

The performance & price is fine, it's the power draw and noise that worries me.

The power draw is terrible, although some reviews don't have it quite as bad. My guess is that AMD got some rather lackluster chips back from Global Foundries and pushed them out the door even though they barely meet target specifications.

Hopefully the AIB cards get a better bin or GF gets quality under control. Otherwise if this keeps up there's no way that AMD can expect Vega to be competitive.

 

[iiiankiii]

I think I'm more upset at the fact that once again, AMD has chosen to put the crappiest cooler on its GPU. Why are you doing this to yourself, AMD? I don't get it. Noise and Hit is one of the most important metric. Yet, they still did this? Did they not learn anything? Man, I am totally blindsided by the abysmal high power draw.

 

[Face2Face]

Performance is as I expected, though power consumption is a bit disappointing. I think I'll just sit tight until the 1070's come down to earth or the RX 490 is released.

 

[MiddleOfTheRoad]

So much lies and BS to fuel the hype.

Said by the guy who is probably on the Nvidia payroll -- because of all the lies and BS he spreads on this forum.

So tell me o' brilliant one, which Nvidia card that is priced at $199 NEW can power my Oculus Rift? Crickets, yet again.


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[ShintaiDK]

Yup...the more I go through all the benchmarks the more it's clear the real selling point on this card is cross fire. I mean...only needing two 6 pin power plugs and $398 to crossfire and basically achieve 1080 performance is incredible.

You need 480$, 320W to reach 180W 1080 performance. Assuming CF scales well and actually works.

 

[f2bnp]

Could this just be a sideeffect to overvolting? AMD is known to bump voltage a little higher than needed.
Can the card keep stable clocks with a little undervolting?

Either way, can't wait for custom cards.

 

[selni]

Shit card. I can't believe I sold my 7970 for this.

That's still going to be a solid upgrade from a 7970. This happens every AMD release lately - the usual suspects and AMD's marketing hype releases to hell and back and then when crazy expectations are inevitably missed everyone gets sad.

It's a miss for sure at these numbers but it's still priced well for what it is and the 1080p performance is in between a 390 and 390X (which is what [H] etc are saying, and why they gave it an award). 1440p and upwards gets ugly though.

 

[krumme]

This thread should be a lesson to AMD. Don't lead with your midrange card.

Launching Vega, even if a power hog, would garner a more positive reception if it temporarily dethroned the 1080.

It was only in this thread a 480x was ever 110w. I topped it for 130w and it uses like 20% more.
But a actually surpriced it can get 390x level perf at 1080 with that bandwith ace and rops. Its absolutely a perf win for the mm2. And perhaps they traded perf for efficiency.
25w difference on desktop means nothing. The problem is mobile and they better have higher efficiency here. But i guess then lower perf.

 

[antihelten]

I think I'm more upset at the fact that once again, AMD has chosen to put the crappiest cooler on its GPU. Why are you doing this to yourself, AMD? I don't get it. Noise and Hit is one of the most important metric. Yet, they still did this? Did they not learn anything? Man, I am totally blindsided by the abysmal high power draw.

According to AMD it is so the AIB has more room to show off (same with the subpar power delivery on the reference model one would assume).

This isn't a bad plan as such, but the AIB versions has to come out very soon (within the next week preferably), to avoid having the reference model leave a lasting impression.

 

[Silverforce11]

Definitely GloFlo.

And the second half of this "failure" is good all forum hype. Even the AMD press info was damning, but nope the hype train just kept speeding up.

EDIT:



Woof, how quickly they turn on you. Considering Silver has been more than optimistic for the products, this is rather odd to read.

And damn straight, I have been very generous to AMD lately, very little bad things said actually. I was expecting 390X performance from the 5.8TFlops because to me, regressing on a next-gen GCN is just unthinkable.. but there they went and did it, AMD went full retard.

And no, that 1x 6 pin is inexcusable, now the card has no OC capabilities. Is it going to make me a happy gamer if custom AIB cards come out with 8 pin and run at 1.5ghz? No it's not, cos that's later and inflated in price.

This is a fail. But I still bought 2 because there's nothing better currently for the price here. -_- $379 AUD for RX 480 8GB. A GTX 970 is $449 AUD, GTX 980 is over $600 AUD..

If that makes any sense!!

 

[Yakk]

Exactly where I thought these cards would be, getting a couple! :wub: